IMBRA facilitates scam correspondence

[Gator]

IMBRA has made it more difficult to achieve RWD commandments No. 3 and 4 (viz., correspond directly with RW). 

Rather than check the background of American clients, many agencies withhold RW addresses and other direct contact information.  Instead, these agencies control the correspondence and communication.  They claim that the necessary background information is only necessary when a meeting is imminent. 

Thus, IMBRA facilitates those agencies prone to conduct fake correspondence (the slow and extended scam of $5-15 per letter to Fat Yuri).  This makes it even more important to work with reputable agencies.     

It seems that some agencies will sell and release addresses without complying with IMBRA.  Angelica appears to do such.  Those agencies are, of course, creating a situation  that could compel the consular officer to deny the K-1 visa.   

[Durk]

 
       Yes Gator I agree, but the problem with this industry goes way deeper than that. When
an agency or group of agencies has to advertise as being HONEST I just laugh. I think people in this
business today should decide just why they are here. If money is the only reason they are already
in trouble. IMBRA ends up just being another excuse to bend over the client and take their money.
        I have been in my own business for 25 years and money has not been my only focus. I sleep
at night and continue to grow my company. Greed and cash are the cause of the damage to this
entire industry and failure of both good and bad business is the end result. The trash bag needs
to be emptied once and for all. Does anybody have any class? You are playing with peoples hearts
and their lives. A group of us have been looking at this industry for some time now and we are
just about to throw up!  I don't know about anyone else here, but I really feel for the ladies involved. The girls that are really serious are  wondering why they are not getting any results or
results that are only half. This starts to destroy their attitude and hope with the end result being
a scammer or just dropping out of circulation. You see an IDEAL agency would have an endless
supply of customers because of word of mouth to a point (I realize not everyone wants to do this) and cash flow ends up not being a concern if you do not get to big.
        In our audit I recently emailed a question to an agency concerning their physical address
I got a response with the reply stating that my other boss does not want me to list it. Well maybe
that individual should decide who he is working for, himself or his boss. You would go ahead and
risk your fulltime job just to get some more cash! Geeeeeezzz!  Wish you luck G I think we as new
members are really going to need it.


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[Gator]

I wrote one agency and asked why it did not ask for my background info prior to selling me an address.  The reply, " Imbra law was suspended and till it goes into effect again we do not collect background information."

Why did I not know IMBRA was suspended?!

[Turboguy]

IMBRA laws as pertaining to Marriage agencies have been suspended in the Georgia Judicial District as of the last I heard.  It was also being challenged in one other district, which I believe was Ohio.  I have not heard any progress on that case.  I believe the official status in Georgia was that an injunction was issued preventing it's enforcement until the Government presents evidence it's rebuttal.  The judge who made the ruling felt there was that there was a strong case towards the law being unconstitutional.

[jj]

I still don't know how this works.  They agency supposedly has us fill out the standard form  about prior marriage, prior states of residence, any prior convictions etc. Then it says it may be used to run the background check.  So how can it be accurate without our social security number?  So, are we supposed to  fax a background check we obtain by ourself?   I went to our county courthouse and got one but it only covers my county.  I went to the sherriffs office and they said , I could not request one myself.  It had to be ordered by an employer  etc. and that fingerprints etc would be needed for national background check.  Sec 4 of the Marriage Broker Reg Act is amended in section 214(d) that says a"petitioner for visa under clause of section 101(a)(blah, blah) shal undergo a national criminal background check conducted using the national criminal history background check system and the State criminal history repositories of all States in which the applicant has resided prior to the petition being approved by the secretary of Homeland Security, and the results of the backgound check shall be included in the petition forwarded to the consular office under that section."  So, How do I get one, and does the lady need to see both the standard information form and the background check results? The agency can not do an accurate one without the applicants social.  any comments?  thanks- jj

[Durk]

       JJ

        I would check with your state police concerning the background check. Whatever you do
do not give out your Soc. to anybody especially one of these organizations. Check with your AG
office and find out the procedure for the background check. Your employer may have to help
you with this one it probably differs from state to state. If you give out your Soc. you are setting
yourself up for a potential I.D. issue. One of my friends had his ID stolen from his insurance co.
        I believe they can do a background check by name and address or photo rec. Ex. your
driver license. Hope this helps a little.
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[Jet]

It was also being challenged in one other district, which I believe was Ohio.  I have not heard any progress on that case.

It was in Ohio and they lost. Judge ruled in favor of the federal gov't.
The Georgia case is still under a TRO waiting on the gov't to get their case together and come back to court, no word yet...

[Bruno]

Thus, IMBRA facilitates those agencies prone to conduct fake correspondence (the slow and extended scam of $5-15 per letter to Fat Yuri).  This makes it even more important to work with reputable agencies.     

And when i think that IMBRA was make to reduce the bad agency...

A old report from 1999, show that on 66 agency, 59 have accept a customer who present himself guilty of DV 

Take a look at www.equalitynow.org/reports/mailorderbride.pdf ... you can read the full story and find the reply of some agency who are always in the business.

Your $5-15 per letter to Fat Yuri are nothing when compare to a lady who think marry a good man and find someone who is violent...

The idea of the IMBRA is good... the method and application is bad... good people are punish and bad one continue own business... The IMBRA have can be a good thing is the feminist have not control it !