Theories on Chasing Women in Ukraine

[Sting23]

IF 'homour' flies over my head ...[as if ]  then the irony of you accusing me of being a 'stalker' is indeed lost on you.

The youtube site is hardly buried...given I have posted the link TO it....

So why are you so proudly announcing what anyone can visit...with the right link?...

Again....you post first and only think when someone points out your latest 'Duh'...

You got some issues dude when I tell you I don't wanna talk to you. Yet you keep quoting my posts and replying.  Normal people don't do that.  Only weirdos.  Notice how not a single person likes you dude.  Read what everyone says about you, it ain't kind.

Now that I got your name and your Cyprus address I'll be looking for you.

[krimster2]

"Oh he has admitted and confirmed being a sex tourist in pretty much every post. Sometimes he vehemently denies it  and then goes detailing his typical sexual tourist ways and attitudes in the same post.

I've ADMITTED to no such thing you're the one who stuck this label on me
cuz you don't know any better
and not "Sometimes he vehemently denies it" each and every time I have denied it!
so FALSE statements from you!

i don't see the point of arguing about a subject I don't think you are EVER capable of understanding!
you can only see the world through the lens of the world you were brought up in
you know the one I'm talking about
how can someone from that world ever in a million years understand something that doesn't fit into their little conformist box
you can't
you don't get any of it at all
not even close

and yet
oh my here YOU are
my malen'kaya russkaya devushka in America

tell me again how it was YOU got here?
some American guy out of kindness and generosity towards you
has brought you to our fair shores
and of course, of course, you NEVER had to sleep with him, right...

you're NO different from the girls I was with!
you did what was in your best interest same as them
and if in the end it involves sleeping with an American guy who pays the bills
well you did it just like them

and you know what - big respect from me!
I know what it took to pick up and throw your lot in with a stranger and move to another country
I just don't think you've earned the right to hold yourself above other women who made different choices from you
who employed a different scenario than you but in principle did EXACTLY what you did!

call me a sex tourist and I'll accept this label if you also call your husband one

[msmob]

You got some issues dude when I tell you I don't wanna talk to you. Yet you keep quoting my posts and replying.  Normal people don't do that.  Only weirdos.  Notice how not a single person likes you dude.  Read what everyone says about you, it ain't kind.

Now that I got your name and your Cyprus address I'll be looking for you.

))))

And this isn't stalker mode? ))

1/  I don't know how to convince you that my not being 'popular' would 'make me sad' .... 

2/ With every post you become more deranged...When you post daft...I'll quote you and point out why... Try to stop posting daft.

3/ My name is not a secret...you trying to post it here...very bizarre behaviour.

4/ I haven't lived in Cyprus since 2008... )))

5/ You might therefore..in a rare lucid moment ..work out who has 'issues'

6/ I have no problem with you 'finding me'.. I can cure you of your obsessive tendencies.))

Ooops, I forgot...What has this to do with UA ladies?

[pitbull]

"Oh he has admitted and confirmed being a sex tourist in pretty much every post. Sometimes he vehemently denies it  and then goes detailing his typical sexual tourist ways and attitudes in the same post.

I've ADMITTED to no such thing you're the one who stuck this label on me
cuz you don't know any better
and not "Sometimes he vehemently denies it" each and every time I have denied it!
so FALSE statements from you!

i don't see the point of arguing about a subject I don't think you are EVER capable of understanding!
you can only see the world through the lens of the world you were brought up in
you know the one I'm talking about
how can someone from that world ever in a million years understand something that doesn't fit into their little conformist box
you can't
you don't get any of it at all
not even close

and yet
oh my here YOU are
my malen'kaya russkaya devushka in America

tell me again how it was YOU got here?
some American guy out of kindness and generosity towards you
has brought you to our fair shores
and of course, of course, you NEVER had to sleep with him, right...

you're NO different from the girls I was with!
you did what was in your best interest same as them
and if in the end it involves sleeping with an American guy who pays the bills
well you did it just like them

and you know what - big respect from me!
I know what it took to pick up and throw your lot in with a stranger and move to another country
I just don't think you've earned the right to hold yourself above other women who made different choices from you
who employed a different scenario than you but in principle did EXACTLY what you did!

call me a sex tourist and I'll accept this label if you also call your husband one

Sweetie you ARE a SEX TOURIST by any definition and any viewpoint, specifically American! Wanna give a link to your self described sexcapades and the way you describe you used those disadvantaged young women in Ukraine -  to your American boss, co-workers and neighbors - and trust me, what you have heard from me is nothing compared to what you will hear from them. Immoral is immoral is immoral.


And I feel bad for your wife if she "did what was in her interest and slept with you because you pay the bills"


I on the other hand am a great gift to America and my husband, exactly the kind of American this country need more of! 

[ML]

You are so cute:) you have NO idea whether they faked orgasms or not. Any woman can dupe a man and he will never know.

Oh those self proclaimed “sexual giants” are so naive

Heck yes - - - I even faked orgasm - - - but only twice in my life.

[BillyB]

Last week I asked single and married men if they'd talk to a Russian businessman if asked by the wife to stop sexual harassment by that man. Silence by the men here. Everybody got high morals until they get tested.

[msmob]

Last week I asked single and married men if they'd talk to a Russian businessman if asked by the wife to stop sexual harassment by that man. Silence by the men here. Everybody got high morals until they get tested.

Huh?

You talk about 'folks twisting your words' and forget that 'silence' was not the outcome ..Your suggested solution was not clear as you first queried those who advised non engagement.. even distancing the family from a monied stalker..

Then confusingly claimed a similar stance...

BillyB, this forgetfulness is an old age thing... You aren't old..

Why ARE you doing this?

[krimster2]

PB

nothing to hide about what I did in Ukraine...
I had consensual sexual relations with young women who were of legal age and otherwise not impaired - WHAT part of that should I hide?
what’s immoral about consensual sex between two (or more) very willing adults?
do I need a permit?
mother’s permission?

this is Soviet thinking!
I’m American - was American when you were a Soviet citizen!
was American when you were a Russian citizen!
was American the first time you SLEPT with an American, when you were just a poor Russian!
but sleeping with an American who pays your bills and gives you a blue passport
won’t MAKE YOU an American!
there’s a difference, but you’re incapable understanding that as well
you think you are so much better than those other girls who slept with another American under a different scenario that you are so much holier than them
why is that?
you are just voicing Soviet morality
people have to behave “this way” else they are criminal
guess what? ya amerikanets
you Russians ain’t got no jurisdiction over this boy
so who gives dva kopec?
at one time Russia had a 1/2 kopec coin
I wouldn't even give one of those
not me, not even one

I will offer you a compromise however
instead of sex tourist
please call me “sex criminal”
I think that would be appropriate
and by your Soviet definition, somewhat accurate, even if not in the legal sense

but damn those RUSSIAN girls were so soft and sweet
like the delicate petals of a flower
and so worth whatever penalty is applied for this crime
go ahead and punish me PitBull
I can guess what you’d like to do to me
and frankly find myself more than a little intrigued by the idea of it
you might say my interest is “growing"
can you tell me what you look like and what you’re wearing now

[Sting23]

krim no need to explain man. you had a good time there. others are mad.  quoting the great Charles Barkley "thats cause their life suck." 

[krimster2]

"Heck yes - - - I even faked orgasm - - - but only twice in my life."

me to!
but the third time I didn't!
and so then I ran home and yelled out, "mommy, mommy the priest showed me how to make white pee pee"
I never saw him after that...

[pitbull]

PB

nothing to hide about what I did in Ukraine...
I had consensual sexual relations with young women who were of legal age and otherwise not impaired - WHAT part of that should I hide?
what’s immoral about consensual sex between two (or more) very willing adults?
do I need a permit?
mother’s permission?

this is Soviet thinking!
I’m American - was American when you were a Soviet citizen!
was American when you were a Russian citizen!
was American the first time you SLEPT with an American, when you were just a poor Russian!
but sleeping with an American who pays your bills and gives you a blue passport
won’t MAKE YOU an American!
there’s a difference, but you’re incapable understanding that as well
you think you are so much better than those other girls who slept with another American under a different scenario that you are so much holier than them
why is that?
you are just voicing Soviet morality
people have to behave “this way” else they are criminal
guess what? ya amerikanets
you Russians ain’t got no jurisdiction over this boy
so who gives dva kopec?
at one time Russia had a 1/2 kopec coin
I wouldn't even give one of those
not me, not even one

I will offer you a compromise however
instead of sex tourist
please call me “sex criminal”
I think that would be appropriate
and by your Soviet definition, somewhat accurate, even if not in the legal sense

but damn those RUSSIAN girls were so soft and sweet
like the delicate petals of a flower
and so worth whatever penalty is applied for this crime
go ahead and punish me PitBull
I can guess what you’d like to do to me
and frankly find myself more than a little intrigued by the idea of it
you might say my interest is “growing"
can you tell me what you look like and what you’re wearing now

Do not try to pass being a sex tourist as being American. Most Americans will be appalled by your writings on this board describing exploiting desperate young women for sex. You are a sex tourist and admit it in your every post.
And no - it is not your prey - it is you who I hold in contempt

Sleeping with an American who pays her bills and gives her a blue passport does not make YOUR wife an American. Not surprising since by your own admission her main redeemable quality is her boobs
I on the other hand received my US citizenship and passport on my own and many a fellow US citizen told me America is lucky to have me. Which is totally correct.

So tell me what if an old dude employed your daughter and paid her a bit more but f****d her every other day  as an added job responsibility-would that be okay with you? What if he used her for sex in exchange for drugs? Purely consensual, totally fine right? Or is it only okay to treat dirt poor Ukrainian village girls as slightly evolved rubber dolls?

[krimster2]

so what's my punishment?

[krimster2]

pitbull

BO told me your actual background already
nice story you have though

[pitbull]

pitbull

BO told me your actual background already
nice story you have though

I happen to really like women and dislike those who exploit them. That is my story and I am sticking to it

[pitbull]

so what's my punishment?

Just watch out for throat cancer - friendly advice

[krimster2]

totally worth it
but you have never had this particular delicacy
ohhhh sausage
and you call me disgusting
i'd never put that thing in my mouth
cuz
I'm a smooth sex criminal

[BillyB]

this forgetfulness is an old age thing... You aren't old..

Your mind is going out. Question is easy to answer but you don't want answer and dance around it. If you are afraid to confront another man to protect your wife, then lets try another scenario that doesn't include a man. Semi Truck jumps the curb and heads straight for your wife walking down the sidewalk. You are nearby and close enough to push her away but you take her spot. Save your wife's life or not? Any man married or single can answer.

[Trenchcoat]

I happen to really like women and dislike those who exploit them. That is my story and I am sticking to it

I'm not sure these girls Krimster were with were exploited, by the sounds of it they got what they wanted in return and quite decent by the sounds of it. End of the day their choice if they wanted to go with him or not.

Many men in the FSU/Ukraine have to work long hours to support their family, very unpleasant to endure I'm sure. The wife may stay at home even go out and spend the money her other half earns. So is the guy who is more or less condemned to working long hours like a dog exploited?

I think exploitation is a term that is bounded around a lot. In reality I only really take it as a situation where a person has no choice but to endure an unfair situation. The girls Krimster got with were existing regardless of his bring there.

Turn it around even, if an older woman say in her fifties/sixties or older asked me if to get it on with her in exchange for a lot of money, would she be exploiting me. I could either accept or decide I don't want to get it on with some ugly old woman and decline.

Most of us going to the FSU want LTR and while time spent with another woman may mean we risk missing the right girl some times I think it takes some time to make sure if a girl is right for us.

[krimster2]

when my wife and daughters are swimming in Acapulco several yr ago
I had a scuba mask on wife didn't
she didn't see the freakin shark about 30 feet away until she saw the fin and screamed
I was already headed for it past her - "get the girls" I yelled as I swam past her
in a blind rage swimming with every once of strength head on to the shark
which swims off about 10 feet and eyes me cautiously
I continue swimming rapidly towards it - just as I'm about to get close to it - my plan is to poke its eyes out - it swims off
I dive under watching it leave making sure it's not trying to come under me
I surface, I look around, my family's on the beach kids are crying thinkin I'm dead
youngest daughter still won't watch sharks on TV to this day


even something like what turned out to be a harmless shark can be scary
I'd do everything possible to avoid a conflict with someone, if in the scenario you described, I'd probably recommend my wife leave that job and not ever see this guy again
but if he persisted, I'd have my wife set up a meeting, I'd be there waiting for him
doesn't matter # of body guards
EE major with chemistry minor
tour in the US Army
take my pick of tools
I would get the job done...

if I had to ever protect my family - I don't give a damn what happens to me - not at all
this makes me dangerous
cuz I don't care shark, oligarch, alien, zombie
I will totally waste them and display their "mounted" skin on the living room wall

[Trenchcoat]

Your mind is going out. Question is easy to answer but you don't want answer and dance around it. If you are afraid to confront another man to protect your wife, then lets try another scenario that doesn't include a man. Semi Truck jumps the curb and heads straight for your wife walking down the sidewalk. You are nearby and close enough to push her away but you take her spot. Save your wife's life or not? Any man married or single can answer.

I think this is a difficult one as it's a bit like those that involuntary freeze in a disaster even though it condemns them to almost certain death. So I might say one way but in the moment act another.

I would say though as far as I can believe that if I thought my wife was a complete goddess I would (and I don't just mean looks). If I thought she was not all that I don't really know. If I thought she was not that into me then probably not, but again it depends how I feel in the situation. I might just feel it is the chilverous thing to do whatever or I might feel it's the stupid thing to do.

If it were any children I had then I would take the hit, I would genuinely feel that I think.

[krimster2]

wow Trench

when I was a youngster I TOTALLY would have had sex with older women for money
but did it for free

when I was in my 20s I did have a relationship with an older woman pushing 40
she never paid me, but she did buy a new suit for me super expensive $$$$ because she didn't like any of the ones I had
(so she claimed)
and she always paid for dinner and wherever else we went - because frankly being a college student
I would not have been able to afford any of it
but she LOVED having me on her arm and parading me around

I guess if she was a foreigner, PB would call her a sex tourist

we were two consenting adults none of were interested in marriage
it was purely for fun and fun it WAS

she was divorced, owned a beautiful apartment in manhattan she let me stay in on weekends and probably net worth would be about 50 million $$$ today
half hubbies stash - ouch - no pre-nups back then

[pitbull]

wow Trench

when I was a youngster I TOTALLY would have had sex with older women for money
but did it for free

when I was in my 20s I did have a relationship with an older woman pushing 40
she never paid me, but she did buy a new suit for me super expensive $$$$ because she didn't like any of the ones I had
(so she claimed)
and she always paid for dinner and wherever else we went - because frankly being a college student
I would not have been able to afford any of it
but she LOVED having me on her arm and parading me around

I guess if she was a foreigner, PB would call her a sex tourist

we were two consenting adults none of were interested in marriage
it was purely for fun and fun it WAS

she was divorced, owned a beautiful apartment in manhattan she let me stay in on weekends and probably net worth would be about 50 million $$$ today
half hubbies stash - ouch - no pre-nups back then

So you don’t mind if your daughters do the same as you did when they are 20? I know they are not dirt poor bottom of society like those Ukraine girls. So what price would be right for them sleeping with a “papiik” twice their age? Will you approve for a fancy car?

[JayH]

So you don’t mind if your daughters do the same as you did when they are 20? I know they are not dirt poor bottom of society like those Ukraine girls. So what price would be right for them sleeping with a “papiik” twice their age? Will you approve for a fancy car?

Earlier in the thread he branded his 16 yo daughter as a pervert  -- so who knows what he thinks is normal acceptable behaviour.

[jone]

I have the distinct feeling that Krimster is an excellent father and one his daughters are proud to call 'Dad'.

I also think he writes here for his own personal entertainment and could care less what the people think about what he writes.

Of course, that is just me.

[krimster2]

"Earlier in the thread he branded his 16 yo daughter as a pervert  -- so who knows what he thinks is normal acceptable behaviour."

she watches more more porn than me Jay - that's why I call her a pervert!
what universe do you live in Jay?
do you know anything at all about upper class American teenage culture?
my 17 yr old drives a car has a credit card and a bank account even earns some of her own money
she's also been on her first over night road trip with a boy friend
she's blond hair blue eyes and 5' 10" tall
and one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen
thanks to her also beautiful Russian mother (no credit due me in this regard)
you think she doesn't have sex?

I can barely pull into the driveway some weekends
so many local boys buzzing around

I taught my oldest about sex Jay
too bad no one was thoughtful enough to help you out on this subject
especially your first wife who IMHO would have some professional qualification for doing so
and bears some responsibility for not helping you out of this
because I taught my daughter about sex
SHE will always be in control
and because I raised my daughter right
I can always trust her

but she does watch more porn than me


so there...