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Offline c5h

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Name changes
« on: November 09, 2018, 08:48:19 AM »
I'm getting married this weekend (to a Ukrainian on a K1) and she decided to take my last name, and drop her middle and last names.  So will no longer have a middle name.  I thought I recalled reading here before there was a reason to keep previous name as a middle name.  She has a Ukrainian passport still and Russian family ties, and still has an apartment in Russia.   

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Re: Name changes
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2018, 09:09:10 AM »
this is what my wife did, goes with her first, my last
we have joint ownership of property, businesses, etc, so no legal problems
I used to use my middle initial in my own banking, but after seeing my wife skip it, I now do as well and just go first/last
no problems!  it saves a little time writing checks, signing contracts, etc
sweet every little optimization adds up!
вы думаете, что любой из этих людей, даже российских, подозревает, что я русский?

вот как я могу создать американскую личность
Я могу взять напрокат

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Re: Name changes
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2018, 11:13:03 AM »
I'm getting married this weekend  .........
Congratulations!!
                                             
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  I thought I recalled reading here before there was a reason to keep previous name as a middle name.
I must have missed that somewhere along the line.
 
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She has a Ukrainian passport still and Russian family ties, and still has an apartment in Russia.
As did my wife [who still has her Ukrainian ID] She sold her property. Middle names might be useful for Social Security and other ID security     :popcorn:

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Re: Name changes
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2018, 11:44:03 AM »
Russians don't have middle names. Patronymic is not middle. I kept my last name and avoid a lot of problems with documents and trips to Russia. I can do name change any time later if l'll want.

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Re: Name changes
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2018, 12:01:16 PM »
  Patronymic is not middle.
In the USA it is.

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Re: Name changes
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2018, 01:34:46 PM »
I'm getting married this weekend (to a Ukrainian on a K1)

Congrats and Good luck ! )

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Re: Name changes
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2018, 01:55:22 PM »
I kept my last name and avoid a lot of problems with documents and trips to Russia. I can do name change any time later if l'll want.

This is the smart way to go.
I highly recommend AGAINST any woman, and particularly foreign born woman with property, changing her name just because she marries a yahoo.
Can incur a ton of headaches when traveling, dealing with foreign property, etc., etc.
And, after divorce, go through big hassles to get rid of the yahoo's name.
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Re: Name changes
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2018, 09:20:37 AM »
This is the smart way to go.


It IS ? ! ;)

I highly recommend AGAINST any woman, and particularly foreign born woman with property, changing her name just because she marries a yahoo.
Can incur a ton of headaches when traveling, dealing with foreign property, etc., etc.


On balance I'd recommend changing the name due to the VERY issues ML describes - particularly travelling

And, after divorce, go through big hassles to get rid of the yahoo's name.

Hardly very positive..why do not go the whole hog and get a pre-nup ? ;)
« Last Edit: November 10, 2018, 11:44:09 AM by msmob »

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Re: Name changes
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2018, 10:47:29 AM »
Perhaps some of the married men here can ask their wives why FSUW drop their middle names upon marriage. Mine did as well, and I thought it was odd at the time. There must be some reason they are all using the same playbook on this issue.

btw- Even after the marriage and name change, she had no problem transferring ownership of her 'registered' apartment to another family member

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Re: Name changes
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2018, 11:45:17 AM »
Good question

May be they didn't like their fathers ?

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Re: Name changes
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2018, 11:53:15 AM »
Very simple reason that many FSUW stop using variation of Father's name as their middle name . . . at least for my wife.

The Ukrainian passports stopped putting this 'middle name' on their passports.

Now it only lists first and last names.
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Re: Name changes
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2018, 12:43:20 PM »
Not for Ruskies...   don't know about BY

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Re: Name changes
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2018, 01:54:18 AM »
As has been alluded to, the "middle name" isn't really that -- it is a variation of her father's name. Unless she doesn't care about hurting his feelings, it might be wise to rethink that decision.


In most cases there are reason to travel back home in the future and it will be very confusing on the part of Russians if that has been dropped.
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Re: Name changes
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2018, 03:47:35 AM »
On re-reading my response to ML suggesting that changing the name is unwise - perhaps I did not make it clear why NOT changing the surname is unwise

Example When trying to board a car ferry to the UK from France the UK passport control guy asked - "what relationship are you ( RU wife ) to him ( IRL passport presented )? "

We had a copy of our marriage cert with us


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Re: Name changes
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2018, 10:42:35 AM »
My wife hyphenated her last name. Not sure how much it helped but it made her happy.
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Re: Name changes
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2018, 09:22:07 PM »
My wife kept hers initially,mostly from me suggesting her to out of convenience in the various stages of AOS filings , Ukrainian passport , AP travels back to visit relatives etc etc.
Same could have been handled with a name change in retrospect, and it wasnt a big deal either way to us. She changed it later,and also felt no reason to keep the fathers name as middle.

Long way to say, it doesn't matter,do whatever you want and are confortable with.
Either way it's just a few documents.
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Re: Name changes
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2018, 02:48:55 PM »
For newbies who read this....
The Russian speaking people all utilize and record their birth certificate name using their middle name as the name of their father. For example -Daddy's name..Nikolai Vasilivich Rostov -son would be like Aleksandr Nikolai Rostov... .. daughter would be like Marina Nikolayevna Rostov. You will find that some phonetic spellings differ as translated into the Ukrainian or Belarusian. :popcorn:

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Re: Name changes
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2018, 10:24:44 PM »
well each to his own on the name change

however my wife has down this in the last 18 months or so ,

it took some time and paperwork , but now all her vital documents are in the same name .this has eliminated any concerns and hasSles delaign with the gov in both countries

remember ukraine does not recognise dual citizenship ,and it is almost impossible to renounce it ioe

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Re: Name changes
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2018, 11:08:55 AM »

remember Ukraine does not recognize dual citizenship . . .
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