fsu dating advice please

[Gator]

In other words, society and/or local women aren't the real problem. Self-awareness is crucial. If you're not a reasonably desirable guy with resources and a decent personality, you might find someone in a foreign country who'll marry you, but when she inevitably discovers the real you, you're just gonna end up resembling another segment of '90 Day Fiancé.' And that ain't pretty.

To Trenchcoat's credit, he did not do the One Week Wonder option.   

He does need more experience, and that is best accomplished in one's dating pool at home, where the women will give him direct feedback.    Meeting a FSUW for a few days once every six months or so will not give him the requisite experience. 

[Cameraguy]

I do give Trench credit for not being a OWW, a species I hope is nearly extinct because that's definitely playing Russian roulette -- except with one chamber empty.


But every time there's a poster who starts out complaining about how much American (or British) women suck (because they won't give him the time of day), how unfair society treats men and how the solution to all their problems is surely a nice "traditional" FSUW who will be so grateful that she'll overlook his mediocrity and shortcomings, I know he's probably in for a world of hurt. When these resentful guys are also so insecure that they worry about her quickly leaving him for a bigger better deal, doubly so.


In contrast, I have a friend who freely admits to being very shy and says, "Do you think I could've gotten anyone like (his FSU wife) in America?" Probably not. But the difference is, he was reflective of his own personal issues, didn't blame AW or society and has some tremendous assets that would make him attractive to *any* woman, foreign or domestic.


15 or 20 years ago, WM were still enough of a novelty that the mere thought of life in the West was a primary attraction. I could see the look in FSU ladies eyes every time I told someone that I was from Las Vegas. Those days are long gone. I know for a fact that if the only thing I can bring to the table is a TV-fueled fantasy life (which I guarantee they'll quickly grow accustomed to), unless you have some real masochistic tendencies, it's far better to remain single.

~CG

[krimster2]

“ unless you have some real masochistic tendencies, it's far better to remain single.”

masochism?
what do you know of masochism?
my wife is 6‘1“ tall, DD, and a VERY athletic body AND she’s freakin’ Russian...
believe me, you know NOTHING about masochism!
OMG! she’s coming I have to go....

[Jamesukjames]

Lots of utter bull posted.  So you recommend Trench stays at home with the women brought up on fast food or gets on a plane to the land of slim girls and home cooking.  Women with a well developed sense of humour and education.  British lions prefer to hunt unicorns and it still can be done.

[Cameraguy]

I know he's probably in for a world of hurt.

Now I know two guys who are probably in for a world of hurt -- no, make that three.


One who's been a very bad boy and two who are hunting myths, if they don't end up being hunted themselves.


~CG

[krimster2]

One who's been a very bad boy

eta n'pravda, ya hiroshie malchik!  slovo!

[Cameraguy]

eta n'pravda, ya hiroshie malchik!  slovo!

Oh, I think we'll let the 6'1" DD Russkaya dressed in black leather with a cat o' 9 tails determine that. 

[Jamesukjames]

Myths.. not at all.. reality.. been there done that.. surely you've seen the hot versus crazy graph.. unicorns do exist

[krimster2]

crazy?
what do you mean crazy?
12 GA Double Barrel 3 inch magnum shells with 00 buckshot crazy?

I was serious about the 6'1" DD, damned serious, you have NO IDEA how damned serious...

I told her, I said deavotchka listen, if it's after midnight and you come down into the basement to my man cave
you either be naked and carrying a heineken, or you have a weapon able to stop a charging bull...

[Cameraguy]

Krim, who said I didn't believe you? But I guess you're lucky she didn't come downstairs carrying a cattle prod. 


When Pablo Escobar's young daughter announced that she wanted a unicorn, it created a bit of a dilemma. Not being a father who denied his children anything -- no matter the time, cost or effort -- a solution was quickly found. A Shetland pony was purchased and a horn was stapled to its forehead, which delighted his daughter.


Unfortunately, the pony soon died from a massive infection, but it did bring temporary happiness before it's ultimate sad demise.


So I guess unicorns really do exist... at least for a while.


~CG

[Boethius]

Women with a well developed sense of humour and education.  British lions prefer to hunt unicorns and it still can be done.

Some FSUW have a sense of humour. Some don't.  There was a poster here years ago who used to brag about his beautiful UW and her "great sense of humour".  They are now divorced, and since that divorce, he has described her as a miserable human being.

As for education, as I posted previously, you are way out to lunch on this one.  Objectively, British women are far better educated than are FSUW.  Your chance of finding an FSUW who can discuss philosophers, or great literature, are no greater than they are in the UK. 

Years ago, before we married, the better half had a neighbour who was around 20 - an old maid by Soviet standards - who couldn't find a man.  He told her that her tactics were flawed, saying "You tried it with the working class and it failed.  You should try to fashion yourself as an 'intelektualna'.  She grabbed the idea and bought a pair of glasses (she didn't need them it was to make her "look" smarter), and started hanging out in the library with large tomes, pretending to read.  The ploy worked - she soon found a Jewish nerd in the library, and despite the fact she was an empty head, he married her and they were seemingly happy.

The point is, you are being duped by the same sort of tricks, James.  But unlike the Jewish guy, who was 22 and, whose mother was happy he was marrying, since, in her words "At least he'll stop jerking off in the bathroom.", you are a middle aged man, presumably, too old for these tricks.

It would be rare to find an FSUW who can explain the categorical imperative, Cartesian dualism, or even dialectical materialism*, quantum physics, Plekhanov's theories of socialism, or why The Overcoat is not a comedy.  That is why, for the most part, FSU degrees are not recognized on an equal footing to degrees from the UK. 

Look at what sells in their bookstores, their popular music, and their television.  They are as shallow, ill educated, and self absorbed as we Westerners.

As for Trench, he was in fact, a OWW.  He ended up breaking up with that woman.  I do think dating in the UK would be good for him.  It is obvious he has almost no experience with women, either as dates or sexually.  His early posts after getting laid read like those of a 14 year old boy.

This post was composed without the aid of google.

*There is an FSUW occasional poster here who can indeed explain all of these at a PhD level.

[krimster2]

this pic is from a trip to Corfu, daughters stayed in a rented villa with a rented granny
my wife and I explored the place, bummed out that I didn’t have a metal detector
I actually got used to drinking Ouzo, but at first it was like “my god are you kidding me”?
snorkled in crystal clear warm water...perfect hiking weather...

my daughters are happy with ACTUAL ponies, so fortunately don't have to abuse any animals just feed them and pay their vet bills

[krimster2]

" who can explain the categorical imperative, Cartesian dualism, or even dialectical materialism (there is an FSUW here who can indeed explain all of these at a PhD level), quantum physics, or why The Overcoat is not a comedy.  "

well what's so extraordinary about those topics?
we had those topics just last week at my house
this week each member of my family is doing a breakfast presentation on Medieval Balkan Funerary monuments, and tomorrow I have Montenegro!!!

this woman you were describing...
if she ever got breast cancer, would it be a "little bit" of surgery or "a lot" of surgery?, I mean in your opinion, hypothetically, just about that, not making any further inferences about anything else, etc.
   

[Boethius]

I can discuss them all except quantum physics, because I am well educated.  I never developed an interest beyond high school physics, and my education in the sciences, generally, is lacking.

The better half can discuss them all - he often has discussions with our son, who took a lot of physics courses in university.  He was asked to enter honours physics, but his interests took him elsewhere.

Now, you are being too literal.  The point is not about intellectuals but rather, that FSUW are not more educated than are women in the West, if you look at educational levels objectively.

This post was composed without the aid of google.

[krimster2]

my father gave me different advice
he said an intelligent man should marry a "wild savage" woman and tame her
his belief was that two intelligent people would repel each other and NOT attract
all the high IQ females I know in my life are either divorced or NEVER married!!!
so I'll stick with my wild savage Ukrainian woman.....hahahahahahahaha
I have her "eating out of the palm of my hand" literally...
if I told her to "JUMP", she would just ask, "how high sweety"
if the kids are in school, and I ask her to clean in the nude, she will with a big smile....what more could a man ask of a woman, except for lunch?

sure, now haters are gonna hate...
but we ARE a VERY happy couple...so there...!!

[Boethius]

Your father was wrong, and I can think of many, many couples that prove that.

My point though, was about education, not intelligence.

This post was composed without the aid of google.

[krimster2]

"Your father was wrong, and I can think of many, many couples that prove that. "

pardon moi mon amour, but is not the BEST example for each of us, the one that we ourselves create, n'est pas?

[Boethius]

But your father wasn’t doing that, was he?

In any event, my point was that James is wrong about FSUW being better educated than WW.

This post was composed without the aid of google.

[krimster2]

"But your father wasn’t doing that, was he?"

hahahaha, my father didn't have access to Russian women, but he favored tall blondes, the more Anglo Saxon the better...
and my mother was born in the UK and was a UK citizen, she fitted my father's needs perfectly, and he fitted hers, they were married over 60 yr
talk about "dialectic" that's all the two of them ever did, drove my sister and I crazy

[Jamesukjames]

Boethius love your fiesty comments.  I married an English woman so yes I spent 20 years beating off in the bathroom because that's what English wives demean their husbands to.  After divorce I dated an English nurse and an English school teacher both very bossy.  Since my work colleague introduced me to f s u  women I've dated a graphic designer . 2 lawyers who have given lectures to British government ministers.  A surgeon  and an oil pipeline designer.  My god are the conversations more stimulating and the sex is off the scale.  So thank you f s u

[Jamesukjames]

Krimister a word of warning about this metal detecting.   Back in Yugoslavia a very stupid colleague found a half buried pile of petrol pump handles......grenades.  I have driven through an unmarked mine field much to the annoyance and surprise of those who laid it .  Watched a farmer tell an officer not to drive through crops saying mine.  To which the officer replied I don't care who's crops they are were driving through luckily after a few minutes the officer realised it was not an adjective but a noun.  Beware of the plastic ones with removable metal detecting plate.

[krimster2]

oh yeah, already encountered that, it's EVERYWHERE in Crimea!!!!
I'm ex Army, UXO (especially from the great patriotic war) is not of great concern to me, I've handled plenty and know what to do...
in Crimea, I collected un-fired cartridges that I found of various calibers, buff them on a polishing wheel and Mauser cartridges from 1942 look brand new!
most danger I ever had doing this was with a "bad-ass" group of Russians who called themselves "Sev Dig"
they were suicidal bunker divers and I accompanied them into the deepest penetration of Fort Stalin that anyone has ever attempted
we went down to the bottom level, where the Soviet troops were in when the general ordered the fort to be blown up with everyone inside
it took sevdig weeks of digging to get past the collapsed concrete to make an opening to the bottom level
it took me crawling on my belly for 30 minutes to get down there...
but man, the stuff we saw...

here's a pic of me after I came out of Fort Stalin taken by SevDig
part of the crawl space we used to get down to the lower level was directly through a crack in one of the magazine walls, created from the explosion of 40 tons of TNT
crawled through there over Soviet 205mm artillery shells, because it was sealed with no moisture, you could wet a cloth and rub the copper band on the shells and read it!!!
I will NOT describe what we saw, cuz word might get back and Russian gov would be VERY unhappy with us...
but think about it....

[Jamesukjames]

You sound surprisingly like me I've had a good nose about in the naval defences of Bordeaux  carteghena  lossymouth and Franco spanish border.   A friend has had a musket fire a ball after several hundred years that  was empty an un loaded.  My personal favourite is the entry and exit wound in me from a colleagues no magazine in safety catch on.  Not forgetting the entire classroom and personnel removed proving a tank bar mine was safe.   Happy digging.

[krimster2]

"A friend has had a musket fire a ball after several hundred years that  was empty an un loaded"

there is NO such thing as an unloaded gun....and that's how you handle an "unloaded" gun
I've seen plenty of idiots with guns, but I'm NOT one of them
I have been VERY well trained and because of that training I have no fear
when I was 18 I detonated a stack of 105mm artillery shells by using the fuse wrench and put a "universal detonator" on the bottom shell
that one made the whole pyramid go off!!!!
great way to make an IED, but back then we called them "Booby Traps", kids today...

[Jamesukjames]

Krim a question.  I've holidayed with mainly Ukrainians.  I presume most have done military service for a few years in their early lives yet I see no tattoos.   I've seen one guy with the general shoulder flashes that denote a high ranking criminal.  I have a single regimental tattoo which certainly seems to make big muscle guys open doors and stand out my way.  On a alcohol fulled night in a bar with lots of drunk guys from all over the fsu my tattoo came in for a lot of admiration touching and back slapping .  What is going on ?