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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2019, 12:11:17 AM »
Some good advice is given upthread.

What you have not answered is there a child involved on her side?
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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2019, 01:56:17 AM »
Getting in the middle of a domestic situation.  I know a woman with a reputable career who left her husband when he shot her car with a pig hunting rifle while she and their child were driving away from home after a domestic argument.  The bullet went through the car and lodged in the wall .  The police did nothing. She moved in with her mother and is still there 6 years later.  In December 2018 this year my g f was driving a car with a broken tail light the police stopped it and told me to fix it as she was deemed not competent to know about cars.  Totally  different mind set.

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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2019, 02:29:43 AM »
In my experience it's rare for a sane person to live with a mad person.  The madness wears off on each other.  So this woman will need a fair amount of adjustment to being treated kindly by yourself and may send you mad as she sorts herself out.  There are a lot of available fsu women to choose from.  Best way to know a woman is to meet her on her home ground.  Her husband knows what you look like .  Knows where  you live in the USA.  Will know your flight number and arrival date.  So arrival in her home town may now involve a hospital stay for you.  Delete reboot find a more simple situation.  Loads of nice women living back with their mothers after divorce.

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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2019, 12:17:36 AM »
Hello,

Well she did her interview.
The first screening lady looked through her documents and only grabbed bank document and brought it to the consular before her interview.

Met with Consular, she was asked:

Have you travelled abroad before? (No it will be first time)
Where will you be going? (To tour Hollywood Usa/ and Universal studios)
For how long? (2 weeks)
Where will you stay? ( Hostel Name in Hollywood)
Where do you work?  (Employer name)
Where does your husband work? (Employer name)

Consular Looks back and forth from bank document and his computer.. typing checking etc...

Consular:  This time we cannot grant visa, but next time will be ok.

Prints out 214b refusal statement.

After reading over this 214b refusal, the main points are

Intent to return to home country
Do you have the finances to afford this trip?
Is the travel legitimate for the visa purpose.

Thinking back, she mentioned his words again,
This time we cannot grant visa, but next time will be ok.

What the heck does that mean??

 Consular had the bank statement showing balance.
  No concern for other documents she had with her.

Our conclusion we felt it meant beef up the balance a little more for the trip then try again.  Detail your tour plan in the next application about the trip.

That is the update.






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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2019, 12:55:33 AM »


That is the update.

Mandalay

Thanks for the update and sorry to hear the about  the knock-back

From what you write finances might not have been the only reason for refusal ? " Reason to return home ?"

Please excuse me if I've interpreted wrongly

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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2019, 04:49:21 AM »
Before re-applying, suggest:

Letter from employer stating the (new) vacation period, stating it was changed from the old (planned) period.

Are any kids in the family? Going Universal Studios without them would be a red flag.  Two weeks for  Universal Studios / Hollywood is overkill.  One week would be more reasonable.

Regarding funds, airfare (print examples) or advance booking from tour agency that can be cancelled, lodging 150 per day min, with food 200 and 100 per day extras, uber, sightseeing, attractions etc.  Universal studio.

A bank statement with 4-5K would be my guess what they are looking for with a two-week trip plus airfare.

Overall, considering her relationship status which could take some time and be messy to sort out, if you're really serious and in for the long-haul, it's probably high time to go meet her instead.

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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2019, 08:54:27 AM »
Manadaly, The visa process is fee based and generates positive revenue for the Consulate. Most likely the expression 'but next time will be ok' plays into this.

Curious was a stamp by the consular office placed in her passport with words to the effect 'Visa Denied, blah blah blah'?

If you are serious you are back to plan B meet somewhere in Europe and she gets a Schengen visa. Prague is a great city to be in and has frequent flights to Moscow. Warmer is Greece. Turkey and Cyprus are options but the visa's are not seen as 'valuable' as an American, Canadian or Schengen visa.
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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2019, 08:58:24 AM »
That is the update.

She didn't have the passcode, eh?

Oh well, time to man-up and don the Sir Galahad suit and get a passport. Buy that ticket and fly to Russia and meet King Arthur and tell him never to lay hand on your Guinevere ever again, baby.

Maybe that'll scare the bejeesus out of him and sign the divorce paper pronto so you both can ride out unto that Hollywood sunset...
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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2019, 10:04:59 AM »
...Cyprus are options but the visa's are not seen as 'valuable' as an American, Canadian or Schengen visa.[/font][/size]

...and WHO pray told you this?

I have advised many chaps to demonstrate a relationship to meet in Cyprus and they have gone on to get Schengen, UK and 'Oz visas..

It is a doddle to get a Russian a Cyprus visa..it involves clicking on a weblink, choosing the visa application centre appropriate to the oblast and a decision in minutes....

As long as the lady has funds for the stay, a return ticket and an address and her 'sponsor's contact details...the immigration may call you on WhatsApp to check your creds..all will be fine.

Cyprus ranks above Turkey in the visa stakes as CY is in the EU.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2019, 10:35:16 AM by msmob »

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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2019, 10:29:35 AM »
Mandalay,

There is a silver lining in this cloud.  A scamming woman would have said, "I have my visa, please wire travel money."  So the lady is honest.  Maybe her stories about her husband are true. 

Even if true, I see no reason to get involved with a married woman.  I never knowingly dated a married woman, whether in the US or the FSU.  It is MESSY and could become MESSIER.  There are plenty of unmarried FSUW who will be much easier to meet. 

If you are still keen about this woman and choose to ignore my advice, I will write a second post about what to do. 




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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #35 on: January 25, 2019, 10:35:59 AM »
My Confused and Stubborn Mandalay,

My wife's good friend from Russia recently applied for a tourist visa.   The day of the interview, the Consulate was filled with many other applicants.  The consulate denied almost all applications, yet approved my wife's friend. 

Thus, the denial of the travel visa for your woman of interest is typical.   I have no idea about the statement: "next time will be ok."     
 
I suggest your woman of interest not reapply soon.  Instead, you need to meet her in her country but not her city.  Why?   

I unknowingly could have been involved in a similar situation.  My first trip was in 2002 and was the "visit many" option.   I traveled to Yalta to meet a special lady with whom I had shared several long telephone conversations.   Upon arrival, I called her number, the same number I had used several times.  Instead of her sweet voice, a male voice answered. 

I should have hung up.   Instead, stupid me, I asked for Natasha.  The male voice became loud, ugly and hung up.  An hour or so later, Natasha called me at the hotel where she had advised me to stay.  Her words were brief:  "I can not meet you....(click)."  Her tone was sad yet definitive.  so I went to Plan B.

Thus, it is important that you meet your lady outside her city where her husband would unlikely discover the deceit.  If she could arrange time to travel to the US, she surely could fly to St. Petersburg, a distant friend's city, etc. 

When you meet her, I agree with the advice from others not to be a white knight.  Do not feel sorry for her.  Her husband has nothing to do with you.  Instead, treat her as any single woman in your hometown. 

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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #36 on: January 25, 2019, 10:43:00 AM »
Limerence is a b!tch. Very contagious, too. Sure hope Richard can stop by sometime and give all of us the antidote.
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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #37 on: January 25, 2019, 10:47:54 AM »
My Kipling Mandalay,

This episode has introduced you to RW.  They can be difficult yet worth the trouble. 

And unlike the woman in Kipling's Mandalay, they are attainable.

The best plan for you is to open communications with a few of the thousands of RW who are unattached and would consider marriage to a foreigner.  They easily could be better than the current married RW who tugs at your cyber desires. 


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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2019, 11:01:00 AM »
Limerence is a b!tch. Very contagious, too. Sure hope Richard can stop by sometime and give all of us the antidote.

I thought the limerence cancer developed in male victims only after meeting the woman.  This seems like Stage II without yet having met her. 

Mandalay, part of dating RW is to first look into the mirror and deliberate about your romantic history,  strengths, weaknesses, etc.  Be sure you are well-adjusted or at least self-aware before undertaking this venture. 

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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2019, 12:32:55 PM »
I thought the limerence cancer developed in male victims only after meeting the woman.  This seems like Stage II without yet having met her.

That was the initial prognosis. Like Phones and TVs, Limerence is a *SmartDisease*. It knows 95% of Romeos hardly ever leave their computer at home.

My Confused and Stubborn Mandalay,

My wife's good friend from Russia recently applied for a tourist visa.   The day of the interview, the Consulate was filled with many other applicants.  The consulate denied almost all applications, yet approved my wife's friend.

I see/hear this all the time. I originally used the code word 'GQ' in my case to invite the masses and never had any problem. Matter of fact, it's gotten to the point any code is unnecessary anymore...
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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2019, 03:06:58 PM »
...and WHO pray told you this?

US Consular officer in Kiev last year.
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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2019, 03:39:40 PM »

US Consular officer in Kiev last year.


Well, in the context of the US - which is this thread - I stand corrected ...

As far as visiting Europe or Antipodean nations - I'd suggest nonsense..

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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #42 on: January 26, 2019, 04:02:02 AM »
Don't try this again....As someone else said, every time she gets rejected it puts another tick against her name.

I'm probably the most recent member on this site that tried to get a tourist visa for a woman I've never met in real life and she was knocked back for not providing evidence she will return..... Trust me she had the best visa application you could put together.

After I talked to a visa specialist to get clarification on what when wrong, as my woman had travelled extensively, owned property in Russia, had savings in the bank and a high paying job, as well as a great case to return to her children in Russia. She even had a letter of recommendation from a childhood friend who worked in my countries Moscow embassy and now in Australia. 

The agent basically laughed at me and said the problem was she's Russian. She has a better chance or being invited to the international space station than countries like the US, Australia or the UK.

If you want her to visit you, you need to fly and meet her first and show you are in a committed relationship. Even then you may be knocked back, which is why I guess many men get engaged before trying to bring her to his country.

 Edit..... The agent also informed me that he didn't personally know of any Russians that were issued with a visa in the last 6 months, unless they had family here, were in a relationship, engaged or married to a citizen. Other approved visas were for business, studying or competing in professional sport...... All first time tourists were being rejected for not providing evidence they will return.

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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #43 on: January 26, 2019, 08:47:26 AM »
Edit..... The agent also informed me that he didn't personally know of any Russians that were issued with a visa in the last 6 months, unless they had family here, were in a relationship, engaged or married to a citizen. Other approved visas were for business, studying or competing in professional sport...... All first time tourists were being rejected for not providing evidence they will return.

Must be something new for Russians.

Last I knew Russians had a very high visa acceptance rate to visit USA.

Rate for Ukrainians was much lower; don't know about current.

In that earlier situation, Ukrainians were more prone to overstay compared to Russians which probably was a reflection of their worse economic situation at home.

If things have switched, probably due to political reasons; which I am all in favor of.
Winston Churchill.  “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #44 on: January 26, 2019, 10:34:47 AM »
same here...
over the years, have sponsored several visits to the USA (with letters of invitation) from Russia and Ukraine of wife's family
all went without a hitch until this past year when we received our first visa denial (sister, married w/ 2 children, owns business and house)
for many people including my sister in law a long trip to Moscow for nichy vo
вы думаете, что любой из этих людей, даже российских, подозревает, что я русский?

вот как я могу создать американскую личность
Я могу взять напрокат

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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2019, 12:44:29 PM »
I hear the same story from Belarus about getting tourist visas for usa and UK as in most are refused.

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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #46 on: January 26, 2019, 03:30:02 PM »

If things have switched, probably due to political reasons

I think you've hit the nail on the head ML and it's not just our governments showing bias towards Russians. My neighbor is Russian and he's experienced a few negative comments from the general public on Russia's foreign policy, over the last few years. You'd like him, he's anti Putin.

He's an interesting guy, he and his wife escaped when the FSU fell. He was involved heavily in the Russian nuclear program. He's assimilated into our culture very well. It's our Australia day long weekend, he invites the neighbors over for a BBQ and fly's the Australian flag on his car.

We affectionately call him "Con the crazy Russian" due to the fact he fires up his Banya weekly, even this week in 4O+ degree c heatwave conditions.

* An unusual sight in an Aussie back yard  ;D

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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2019, 10:29:30 PM »
I hear the same story from Belarus about getting tourist visas for usa and UK as in most are refused.

I often find it is better to KNOW than to rely on bollox 3rd party hearsay, James ! 

UK applications for visit visas from BY in Q2 2018 - 95.81 % APPROVED

Russians 98.52% approved and Ukraine 89.6%

http://ukvisa.blog/2018/11/23/uk-visa-success-rate/


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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2019, 07:07:14 AM »
4000 applicants from Belarus 4 per cent failure 160 people failed and I personally know 8 of the 160 .  Its the way the statistics are being gathered they obviously are not counting the pre screening in Minsk.  The rude letters of rejection the British Government send out would distress most people in the UK if they knew how rude they are to the level of almost calling a well established lawyer a potential future prostitute.  As I said I know people who have previously received visitor visas to USA and UK who are not getting them now.  Business visas tend to be approved easily.

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Re: Russia US embassy Interview
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2019, 08:29:52 AM »
4000 applicants from Belarus 4 per cent failure 160 people failed and I personally know 8 of the 160 .  Its the way the statistics are being gathered they obviously are not counting the pre screening in Minsk. 

'YEAH RIGHT'- you suggested a REALLY stupid stat based on hearsay and got busted

The rude letters of rejection the British Government send out would distress most people in the UK if they knew how rude they are to the level of almost calling a well established lawyer a potential future prostitute.  As I said I know people who have previously received visitor visas to USA and UK who are not getting them now.  Business visas tend to be approved easily.

You forget that some of us having been helping folks get UK visas for MUCH longer than you and - personally - I see no increase in visit visa rejections

The Business visa is still a visitor visa and simply has letters to support the reason for a visit and - possibly - demonstrating that the UK biz is paying / subsidising the trip ...How many Biz visas have you - personally - been involved with in the last 12 months ?




 

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