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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2019, 06:58:06 PM »
"the "facts" & views stated in quoted articles are not necessarily the same as mine !"

never, would I suffer from such an extreme level of confusion that I would fail to ascertain some idea that originates solely from you vrs from any other source in the universe, so worry not...
anything that produced gales of laughter undoubtedly has you as its author and usually its sole reader as well


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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2019, 05:10:38 PM »
  It is almost certain that Zelenskiy will win the coming election  . Those that did not vote for Poroshenko in the first round-- will most likely continue to vote against him in the next round -thus making it  most  likely that there will be an easy win for Zelenskiy.

 In the last few days he has at last made some real statements of intent top some of the very fundamental issues facing Ukraine ie dealing with Russia and Corruption. He has said that he will be driven by what the people want ( just like his TV character!!) and his comments in the last few days reflect that.
 
  The sceptics - will(are) say the ideas are ok-- but how will they be executed? These basic policies  will be supported by Ukrainian nationalists and the more extreme end ( the keep Ukraine free end !) of Ukrainian beliefs and would reflect a basic extension of some of the current directions. That is really important in my view -- any sign of weakness perceived by Russia is likely to see  Russia ramp up it's attempts to destabilise Ukraine and gain influence and/or territory.

  His comments on corruption-- good as far as they go .As we have seen over the last 4 years  it is a really difficult area for Ukraine -- and as Zelenskiy says in his statement- very important for foreign investors. To me-  that is very true--  but even more important for all Ukrainians and to get the economy on a real basis for future growth & prosperity.

  Maybe this is the new broom Ukraine needs ??

Zelenskiy’s opponents have thus claimed the actor has no political vision. But with the runoff election on April 21 approaching, Zelenskiy has started to reveal where he stands on key issues for the country, and how he is going to address them, albeit in rather vague terms.


Zelenskiy reveals plans to end war with Russia, fight corruption



Ending the war


 Zelenskiy says the first step to ending the war in the Donbas is to establish a ceasefire.

“We can’t afford a long process, because every day starts with news of the number of killed and injured at war. We don’t have time to warm up,” he said, adding that he was ready to negotiations with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The stalled Minsk peace process has to be rebooted, he said: “It’s a war with Russia, so the talks should be with Russia. It must be in a diplomatic format, with the presence of Western partners. We will never sacrifice our people or territories.”

Ukraine also has to start an information war against Russia, Zelenskiy believes. In previous interviews, he said Ukraine needs to launch a Russian-language television channel that will broadcast in eastern Ukraine and the Russian-occupied territories of the Donbas.

“We need to reach out to everyone in the east and the occupied territories: “Guys, you’ve been brainwashed, you’re part of Ukraine, we’re waiting for you, you’re Ukrainians”,” he said.

Zelenskiy also promises that Ukraine will continue its integration with the European Union and North-Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), but adds that the benefits of accession to NATO are yet to be explained to Ukrainians living in the eastern parts of the country.

“As a Ukrainian citizen I’m for NATO, but we have to explain to people that it is for security. We have to reach out to everyone in the east. NATO (membership) has to be (decided) through a referendum,” he said.



Fighting corruption

Ukraine’s investment climate depends on two things, according to Zelenskiy: the protection of business and the fight against corruption.





On April 6, his team released a detailed anti-corruption program.

“It is wrong to hope that a corrupt state system would have the will to deprive itself of its feeding base. Corruption for old politicians is like water for fish. The old political elite being against corruption is the same as bees being against honey,” the statement



Here are the key steps in Zelenskiy’s anti-corruption agenda.

Ensure real independence of the entire chain of anti-corruption agencies: in particular, anti-corruption agencies have to be established via an independent international selection board;

Remove immunity from prosecution for politicians;

Establish the High Economic Court;

Strip law enforcement agencies, such as the Security Service of Ukraine, Prosecutor General’s Office, and Ministry of Interior Affairs, of powers to investigate economic crimes. Transfer these powers to a new agency for economic investigations;

Decriminalize economic activity as much as possible and introduce monetary and administrative penalties for economic crimes, and hold to account public officials who harass businesses;

Toughen the punishment for public officials involved in corruption by way of voluntary resignation, confiscation of property, and a lifelong ban on taking any public office. Ban the courts from releasing corrupt officials on bail;

E-government: as many government services to business as possible should be moved online;

Engage citizens in exposing corruption through a system of rewards;

Ask Western law enforcement agencies to open investigations into Ukrainian officials determined by Ukrainian anti-corruption agencies to be involved in corruption.


http://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/zelenskiy-reveals-plans-to-end-war-with-russia-fight-corruption.html
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Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2019, 05:16:01 PM »
  It is almost certain that Zelenskiy will win the coming election  . Those that did not vote for Poroshenko in the first round-- will most likely continue to vote against him in the next round -thus making it  most  likely that there will be an easy win for Zelenskiy.

 In the last few days he has at last made some real statements of intent top some of the very fundamental issues facing Ukraine ie dealing with Russia and Corruption. He has said that he will be driven by what the people want ( just like his TV character!!) and his comments in the last few days reflect that.
 
  The sceptics - will(are) say the ideas are ok-- but how will they be executed? These basic policies  will be supported by Ukrainian nationalists and the more extreme end ( the keep Ukraine free end !) of Ukrainian beliefs and would reflect a basic extension of some of the current directions. That is really important in my view -- any sign of weakness perceived by Russia is likely to see  Russia ramp up it's attempts to destabilise Ukraine and gain influence and/or territory.

  His comments on corruption-- good as far as they go .As we have seen over the last 4 years  it is a really difficult area for Ukraine -- and as Zelenskiy says in his statement- very important for foreign investors. To me-  that is very true--  but even more important for all Ukrainians and to get the economy on a real basis for future growth & prosperity.

  Maybe this is the new broom Ukraine needs ??

Zelenskiy’s opponents have thus claimed the actor has no political vision. But with the runoff election on April 21 approaching, Zelenskiy has started to reveal where he stands on key issues for the country, and how he is going to address them, albeit in rather vague terms.


Zelenskiy reveals plans to end war with Russia, fight corruption



Ending the war


 Zelenskiy says the first step to ending the war in the Donbas is to establish a ceasefire.

“We can’t afford a long process, because every day starts with news of the number of killed and injured at war. We don’t have time to warm up,” he said, adding that he was ready to negotiations with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The stalled Minsk peace process has to be rebooted, he said: “It’s a war with Russia, so the talks should be with Russia. It must be in a diplomatic format, with the presence of Western partners. We will never sacrifice our people or territories.”

Ukraine also has to start an information war against Russia, Zelenskiy believes. In previous interviews, he said Ukraine needs to launch a Russian-language television channel that will broadcast in eastern Ukraine and the Russian-occupied territories of the Donbas.

“We need to reach out to everyone in the east and the occupied territories: “Guys, you’ve been brainwashed, you’re part of Ukraine, we’re waiting for you, you’re Ukrainians”,” he said.

Zelenskiy also promises that Ukraine will continue its integration with the European Union and North-Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), but adds that the benefits of accession to NATO are yet to be explained to Ukrainians living in the eastern parts of the country.

“As a Ukrainian citizen I’m for NATO, but we have to explain to people that it is for security. We have to reach out to everyone in the east. NATO (membership) has to be (decided) through a referendum,” he said.



Fighting corruption

Ukraine’s investment climate depends on two things, according to Zelenskiy: the protection of business and the fight against corruption.





On April 6, his team released a detailed anti-corruption program.

“It is wrong to hope that a corrupt state system would have the will to deprive itself of its feeding base. Corruption for old politicians is like water for fish. The old political elite being against corruption is the same as bees being against honey,” the statement



Here are the key steps in Zelenskiy’s anti-corruption agenda.

Ensure real independence of the entire chain of anti-corruption agencies: in particular, anti-corruption agencies have to be established via an independent international selection board;

Remove immunity from prosecution for politicians;

Establish the High Economic Court;

Strip law enforcement agencies, such as the Security Service of Ukraine, Prosecutor General’s Office, and Ministry of Interior Affairs, of powers to investigate economic crimes. Transfer these powers to a new agency for economic investigations;

Decriminalize economic activity as much as possible and introduce monetary and administrative penalties for economic crimes, and hold to account public officials who harass businesses;

Toughen the punishment for public officials involved in corruption by way of voluntary resignation, confiscation of property, and a lifelong ban on taking any public office. Ban the courts from releasing corrupt officials on bail;

E-government: as many government services to business as possible should be moved online;

Engage citizens in exposing corruption through a system of rewards;

Ask Western law enforcement agencies to open investigations into Ukrainian officials determined by Ukrainian anti-corruption agencies to be involved in corruption.


http://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/zelenskiy-reveals-plans-to-end-war-with-russia-fight-corruption.html

At least he doesn't have any chocolate factories for Russia to shut down.   

If they kill some more of his countrymen, he can wound them with his one-liners.
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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2019, 05:29:45 PM »
At least he doesn't have any chocolate factories for Russia to shut down.   

If they kill some more of his countrymen, he can wound them with his one-liners.

Not to say that he does not have some potential business conflicts.

His comments quoted above go a little distance in the right direction for me - so - hopeful that he can build on that.
The difficulties faced by any incumbent in Ukraine should not be underestimated.
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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2019, 05:38:27 PM »
 Zelenskiy says the first step to ending the war in the Donbas is to establish a ceasefire.

The stalled Minsk peace process has to be rebooted.

The protection of business and the fight against corruption.

These first ones are easy for anyone to say and probably have been said and tried by others already . . . like a USA candidate saying 'we must end poverty.'

Ukraine also has to start an information war against Russia.

Maybe this is something new.


I am more concerned by the things Boe and Krimster have pointed out that Zelenskiy's election will just lead to more power for Kolomoisky and his ability to steal more billions from Ukraine's government and Ukrainian people.

Also, I believe that Zelenskiy is actually pro-Russian and . . . when he deals with Putin, he will give away too much.
Winston Churchill.  “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2019, 05:42:09 PM »
gee, I sure ‘nuff hopes none of them smart white folks
duz a word use frequency comparison between Zelenskiy's  public speeches
and his TV scripts
cuz the implications if they are the same
is his speeches are scripted by the same people
hmmm hmmmm
very interesting.....
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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2019, 06:53:01 PM »
Zelenskiy says the first step to ending the war in the Donbas is to establish a ceasefire.

The stalled Minsk peace process has to be rebooted.

The protection of business and the fight against corruption.

These first ones are easy for anyone to say and probably have been said and tried by others already . . . like a USA candidate saying 'we must end poverty.'

Ukraine also has to start an information war against Russia.

Maybe this is something new.


I am more concerned by the things Boe and Krimster have pointed out that Zelenskiy's election will just lead to more power for  and his ability to steal more billions from Ukraine's government and Ukrainian people.

Also, I believe that Zelenskiy is actually pro-Russian and . . . when he deals with Putin, he will give away too much.

The idea of an "information war"  has been floating around for some time --get the real message of Ukraine to the Donbas and Crimea is the best way to win. It is a necessary part of a way to win.

How he deals with Kolomoisky is probably going to be the litmus test of his early days as President.

I agree that it is easy enough to say some things -- but much harder to deal with the reality of the situation. The corruption issue will only ever get "solved" with the support of the oligarchs . The question is whether Zelenskiy has the metal -- and the brains to do it-- first he must have the intent.

Is he pro Russian> ?  Prima facie it was my general feeling also -- and he has support from pro Rus sections in Ukraine. The statements quoted  earlier say much of the right things to allay those fears  -- but ??

I commented earlier about his connections to Russia  and  they are being examined closely now. What they mean is hard to say -- the business links go back some time before the invasion and he is hardly unique in having them.

The fact of the matter is he is going to win -- and   we can only hope he can be all of his TV character in real life and be a Ukrainian patriot !  The people expect it !!
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2019, 07:23:20 PM »
Ukrainian politics is just "another TV drama"
so what better actor than an ACTOR
reality-tv
for
tv-reality

keep the viewers vested in the show
the magic show
that misdirects the audience
with the clever disappearing money trick




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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2019, 11:28:03 PM »

My wife and MIL think the comedian is a joke. Does anybody know any Ukrainians that like the guy?
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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2019, 11:46:47 PM »
My wife and MIL think the comedian is a joke. Does anybody know any Ukrainians that like the guy?

Er, let me see ....  over 30 percent of the voters..

Link to a map of UKraine and voting pattern

http://tinyurl.com/ukraine-2019

Zelensky 'owns' Ukraine  - if one looks at the map ..

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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2019, 11:39:37 AM »
"My wife and MIL think the comedian is a joke"

yow! I hired a singer for a song
ok...yours is better...


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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2019, 03:33:19 PM »
“someone” tried tellin ya’ll back in 2014 through Bellingcat that a new “comedy candidate” was coming to Ukraine based on a leak of files from Russia’s right-wing Liberal Democratic Party

this Russian political technology project was viewed very favorably by Kolomoisky
who saw its potential

the leaked documents refer to the candidate as “Pinnochio”

Kolomoisky now lives in Geneva and Tel Aviv
in the last two years, Pinnochio made a total of 14 visits to these two places...
on several of the trips he was accompanied by Kolomoisky’s lawyer Andriy Bohdan
who not surprisingly is also Pinnochio’s lawyer and senior campaign adviser...

I really wish that that’s all there was to this...

varenung for yevrei in Odessa, I hear “thunder” but the sky is clear...
the wolf will come and save you from the bear
but the wolf is hungry to...

Easter Overture has a nice ring to it

Trump, Brexit, Pinnochio even the "Protocols" are all connected to Russian political technology projects
and this time next year, I will be as well...

over many years
people have cried a billion tears
for what, they never knew, now their time is through
soon, it’s all gonna end
If God's a coming, hope he make it by then
Maybe He'll look around Himself and say
Guess it's time for the judgment day


it'll all be different after the war
Kolomoisky and Putin have reached a deal
Kolomoisky gets revenge and money
Putin gets Ukraine

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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2019, 08:59:43 AM »

Also, I believe that Zelenskiy is actually pro-Russian and. . . 


when he deals with Putin, he will give away too much.



My two kopecks, if Russian citizens are allowed even to say something about this topic.


1) Zelensky has studied law in the university. He is not a clown, as Poroshenky says.


2) All that he has now was basically "created inside his head" - he has not stolen anything from anyone, didn't grab anyone else's business;


3) He has built a successful media-empire, including many directions:
- TV-shows (Вечерний квартал, Лига смеха, Рассмеши комика);
- TV-series (Сваты, Слуга народа);
- Films (Восемь первых свиданий, Восемь лучших свиданий, Ржевский против Наполеона, Я, ты, он, она);
- Concerts & tours (Квартал концерт).


I've spent half of my life - 23 years out of 46 - on tour; and I DO know what amount of creativity, energy, knowledge, and persistence it takes to built something similar. A person who has made it in show-business can surely make it in politics and economics.


4) The key persons from "Квартал 95", authors and actors, are mostly the same who started it all together with Zelensky more than 20 years ago. An asshole simply wouldn't be able to go this way from zero to hero without losing closest friends and key partners.


I really hope Zelensky wins on April 21 - and it will be a good example for Russian youth to look at, and to believe that a change is actually possible.
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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2019, 11:46:11 AM »
Having a law degree doesn't mean much in Ukraine.


The problem is his ties to Kolomoisky.  Who wants that degenerate killer having any influence in the political sphere?


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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2019, 12:27:17 PM »
journalists have discovered three Russian companies: Vaysberg Pictures, Platinum film and Green Films registered to Zelensky.
The parent company of all three is Cyprus registered Green Family LTD company which is also associated with studio Kvartal 95 in Ukraine.
(good word play on Green Family and Zelensky only Russian/Ukrainina speakers will get it)

Kolomoiskyi’s partner Tymur Mindych is the LARGEST partner in these companies
WHICH also receive substantial Russian government funding

everyone single company connected to Zelensky including channel 1+1 is also linked to Kolomoiskyi

Source: http://censor.net.ua/en/n3108028

in addition, it has been reported that Kolomoiskyi has used studio Kvartal 95 to launder some of the money he stole from Privat Bank

http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/570044.html

read this and tell me he’s just another struggling comedian....
because that would REALLY be funny
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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2019, 12:56:46 PM »

The parent company of all three is Cyprus registered Green Family LTD company which is also associated with studio Kvartal 95 in Ukraine.



Hasn't Zelensky sold his shares in Green Family LTD at the very beginning of his presidential run? :)


http://nv.ua/ukraine/politics/zelenskiy-zayavil-chto-prodal-akcii-kiprskoy-kompanii-cherez-kotoruyu-velsya-biznes-v-rf-50002909.html

http://tinyurl.com/yxbak3v6

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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2019, 01:04:42 PM »
Hasn't Zelensky sold his shares in Green Family LTD at the very beginning of his presidential run?

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http://tinyurl.com/yxcgvz3y
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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2019, 01:10:00 PM »
Hasn't Zelensky sold his shares in Green Family LTD at the very beginning of his presidential run?

nyet

http://tinyurl.com/yxcgvz3y


Krimster, a) checking the dates of articles and b) switching your brain while reading might help.


You quote an article from January 17. I quote later press reports.


Zelensky sold the share of the Cyprus-based company, that - it its turn - owns the company in Russia. He couldn't sell the company in Russia, because he is not the "direct" owner. Understand? No? Then try to re-read.
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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2019, 02:35:30 PM »
So, despite the fact we have posters here who are wont to declare that Ukrainians are genetically anti Semitic, and their leaders are all neo Nazis, a Jewish Ukrainian has won the presidency with 79% of the vote. 


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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #46 on: April 21, 2019, 03:45:43 PM »
So, despite the face we have posters here who are wont to declare that Ukrainians are genetically anti Semitic, and their leaders are all neo Nazis, a Jewish Ukrainian has won the presidency with 79% of the vote. 

But maybe he has been faking the Jewish part.

We should demand to see the circumcision.
Winston Churchill.  “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #47 on: April 21, 2019, 03:50:18 PM »
BO, here’s the plan....

1. a resurgent Kolomoisky uses Zelenskiy to gain entry to the NBU
2. NBU is looted like PrivatBank
3. Russian provakateurs urge population to blame “zhids”
4. Russian hired titushki start brutal riots against Jews
5. Russia turns off gas to Ukraine
6. IMF refuses further bailouts after NBU dissolves
7. Ukraine descends into chaos, violent riots against Jews
8. Ukraine government is paralyzed, target of attacks by Right Sector, etc
9. prominent Ukrainians openly plead Russia for help
10. Russia “helps” itself to Ukraine

there will be no resistance from the USA or EU to this
last year I photographed the military deployment diagrams at Nakhimov Naval Academy for the invasion (dressed in Russian military fatigues!  BO, I looked HOT!)
I have every single detail
separately I have from Belbeck, training materials from "Shock Battalions" i.e. saboteurs in civilian clothing recruited exclusively from within Crimea
their role is to shutdown transportation & other infrastructure throughout Ukraine, but Odessa is primary target
for some reason they also want to block border exit points in Western Ukraine

some people can look at a slight depression in the soil and tell what kind of animal made it and when
and some people will be completely oblivious to it
I can read the signs of the rude beast slouching towards Bethlehem
why can't you?


PS Olchik
not sell the company, sell his shares in the company, he didn't...


http://www.kyivpost.com/business/zelenskiy-team-offers-contradictory-statements-on-central-bank-audit-worries-financial-experts.html
http://www.kyivpost.com/business/kyiv-court-decides-that-the-nationalization-of-privatbank-was-illegal-nbu-appeals.html
http://www.occrp.org/en/investigations/oligarchs-weaponized-cyprus-eranch-of-ukraines-largest-bank-to-send-5-billion-abroad

Kolomoisky won't get started until after parliamentary elections
everything has to be completed well before 2024 so the Duma will nominate Putin to be "President for Life"

PS
You folks in the "Tower" reading this?
see y'all real soon...
« Last Edit: April 21, 2019, 08:02:48 PM by krimster2 »
вы думаете, что любой из этих людей, даже российских, подозревает, что я русский?

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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2019, 05:23:05 PM »
BO, here’s the plan....

Holy корова, Batman!

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Re: Ukraine Presidential Election March-April 2019
« Reply #49 on: April 23, 2019, 04:35:43 AM »
I'm still trying to square how Mr Z can be Mr K's sock puppet and pro Russian - as one poster has suggested - unless it's all about the money, rather than Politics ..

The Kremlin do not seem to be too keen to pick up the phone for a chat and have just cranked up pressure on Ukraine's ( still ) reliance on RU energy

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-election-volodymyr-zelensky-putin-congratulate-comedian-a8881051.html


 

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