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Woe is me, my dating life has been ruined by Russian Women
« on: July 26, 2019, 06:59:15 AM »
I have been dating an attractive American Lady that lives close by, but I cant stand her anymore. I really cant say there is anything wrong with her, just an average American suburb helicopter Mom divorcee. She is just plain boring. I would break up with her today, but I cant. I need her to attend a business dinner with me next week. I want to say Im sick this weekend, but then she will just come over every few hours and baby me.


Why cant American women learn how to dress? how to walk? How to carry themselves? I am hurtin so bad, I would settle for a Russian accent and some good posture. I am ranting here, because I cant tell anyone else until next week. 

It wouldn't be this way if Russian women didn't spoil me.

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Re: Woe is me, my dating life has been ruined by Russian Women
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2019, 07:03:16 AM »

Frightened you cannot find a date to make you look 'respectable' by having a dinner partner? ... COME  ON...

Put her out of her misery ..

WHAT a daft post

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Re: Woe is me, my dating life has been ruined by Russian Women
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2019, 08:57:32 AM »
GenMIsh,

I have a solution for you from years and years ago.

My ex-wife has a gay brother, a very successful gay brother.  He was Plant Manager for Big Three auto manufacturer.  This was years ago, so he kept his lifestyle in the closet.   

He occasionally had to attend business dinners in which everyone would be with their wives.  MY BIL needed a respectable female companion suitable for the corporation's sense of family values.  His solution was to hire an escort, an older model who knew how to dress in classic style and could converse about current affairs.  Escorts provide services other than sex. 
 

   

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Re: Woe is me, my dating life has been ruined by Russian Women
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2019, 01:16:21 PM »
I have been dating an attractive American Lady that lives close by, but I cant stand her anymore. I really cant say there is anything wrong with her, just an average American suburb helicopter Mom divorcee. She is just plain boring. I would break up with her today, but I cant. I need her to attend a business dinner with me next week. I want to say Im sick this weekend, but then she will just come over every few hours and baby me.


Why cant American women learn how to dress? how to walk? How to carry themselves? I am hurtin so bad, I would settle for a Russian accent and some good posture. I am ranting here, because I cant tell anyone else until next week. 

It wouldn't be this way if Russian women didn't spoil me.

Would I love to go back in time to 1993


She sounds like a nice person.   She deserves better than to be used as a pawn to further your career.  I doubt you would want someone doing that to you.  I hope you reconsider what you are doing.

I've noticed throughout the years many guys who look like this (I'm not saying this is you)...






Think they deserve someone like this...





Without putting in the work to make themselves attractive to what they desire.  It doesn't work that way no matter what country you go too.   

This may come as a surprise, but there is also boring people in Russia.  They may have a different accent but even that will stop being a novelty soon enough.   

You have to find someone who has some of the same interest that you do.  Otherwise you will end up finding the next one boring.
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2019, 06:44:58 AM »
GenMIsh,

I have a solution for you from years and years ago.

My ex-wife has a gay brother, a very successful gay brother.  He was Plant Manager for Big Three auto manufacturer.  This was years ago, so he kept his lifestyle in the closet.   

He occasionally had to attend business dinners in which everyone would be with their wives.  MY BIL needed a respectable female companion suitable for the corporation's sense of family values.  His solution was to hire an escort, an older model who knew how to dress in classic style and could converse about current affairs.  Escorts provide services other than sex. 
 

   


Gator, I think that is a fine idea but with a potential catch for me. What is to stop her from coming back at me asking for money years from now? She can prove she was an escort, and threaten to claim I used her for sex because Im not gay. And in my position, I have way too much socio/business/political capital at risk to take that chance.

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Re: Woe is me, my dating life has been ruined by Russian Women
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2019, 10:38:21 PM »
What is to stop her from coming back at me asking for money years from now? She can prove she was an escort, and threaten to claim I used her for sex because Im not gay.


You think she's going to tell the police she broke the law working as a prostitute? Unless you're famous, I doubt she'll bother you again if you hired her to eat dinner with you. She probably sleeps with a new guy everyday. I doubt she'd remember you.

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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2019, 11:10:12 PM »

Gator, I think that is a fine idea but with a potential catch for me. What is to stop her from coming back at me asking for money years from now? She can prove she was an escort, and threaten to claim I used her for sex because Im not gay. And in my position, I have way too much socio/business/political capital at risk to take that chance.


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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2019, 08:42:38 AM »

I've noticed throughout the years many guys who look like this (I'm not saying this is you)...


Think they deserve someone like this...



Actually it can happen, and not just infrequently.

Not saying this will work for the extreme big belly on your guy, but overweight guys can obtain slender gals in FSU.

Note:  I only had a medium gut when I started this venture.

And my experience with a large number of FSU gals was that they had no issue with my gut at all.  In fact when I mentioned about losing weight they virtually all said:  "Don't do it; I  don't like thin guys."

Now my gut is much larger and wife has zero complaints; and I have asked her several times about it.  Her first husband (who died relatively young) was very thin, and she didn't much care for that look.
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2019, 01:05:10 PM »
Actually it can happen, and not just infrequently.

Not saying this will work for the extreme big belly on your guy, but overweight guys can obtain slender gals in FSU.

Note:  I only had a medium gut when I started this venture.

And my experience with a large number of FSU gals was that they had no issue with my gut at all.  In fact when I mentioned about losing weight they virtually all said:  "Don't do it; I  don't like thin guys."

Now my gut is much larger and wife has zero complaints; and I have asked her several times about it.  Her first husband (who died relatively young) was very thin, and she didn't much care for that look.


I hear you.  I am amazed at how I have been able to date above my looks.  I still try and take care of myself, but there is always someone better looking or more charismatic. 


I chalk it up to being able to connect with the person.  I honestly don't think I can get that type of connection with someone that had limited English skills.  When I met my Ukrainian ex, she had been learning English for some time.  We were also friends for a year or so before we pursued a romantic relationship.


I don't think I could pull off what many of you guys did.   I enjoy being able to joke around with women about things that would probably not make sense to someone not from here.
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2019, 01:09:57 PM »
  I am amazed at how I have been able to date above my looks.  I still try and take care of myself, but there is always someone better looking or more charismatic. 


I chalk it up to being able to connect with the person.  I honestly don't think I can get that type of connection with someone that had limited English skills.  When I met my Ukrainian ex, she had had been learning English for some time.  We were also friends for a year or so before we pursued a romantic relationship.


I don't think I could pull of what many of you guys did.

A guy can date women who look like 10's on a regular basis if they are 10's somewhere else if they don't have the looks. A guy may be a 10 in brains, charisma, or with money. A woman who looks like a 10 can be choosy and she may prefer a 10 in brains over a 10 in looks when it comes to picking her man.
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2019, 01:20:05 PM »

I hear you.  I am amazed at how I have been able to date above my looks.  I still try and take care of myself, but there is always someone better looking or more charismatic. 


I chalk it up to being able to connect with the person.  I honestly don't think I can get that type of connection with someone that had limited English skills.  When I met my Ukrainian ex, she had had been learning English for some time.  We were also friends for a year or so before we pursued a romantic relationship.


I don't think I could pull off what many of you guys did.   I enjoy being able to joke around with women about things that would probably not make sense to someone not from here.

Dunno, LFU,

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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2019, 01:22:54 PM »
Dunno, LFU,

If I had your looks I'd have all the women I want.


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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2019, 01:34:43 PM »
A guy can date women who look like 10's on a regular basis if they are 10's somewhere else if they don't have the looks. A guy may be a 10 in brains, charisma, or with money. A woman who looks like a 10 can be choosy and she may prefer a 10 in brains over a 10 in looks when it comes to picking her man.


Right, the better looking you are the more options which was what I was trying to get at when talking about making yourself more attractive.  I also think if you want someone who dresses more elegantly then you need to frequent those types of places.  Probably more high end establishments.  I have yet to meet women in high heels while hanging out at the Walmart registers.  I'm sure they have to be there somewhere! 

I'm just talking about me here, but looks is just the first part of attraction.  I imagine it is the same for you guys as well.  After the initial attraction I start seeing if there is a connection.  Looks alone will get boring unless you get that connection.   

I've been called cute and I think once that connection is built many will look at me more in the handsome area.  Looks alone would severely hinder my dating prospects.  haha   I've noticed the same thing with girls I though were cute and after we feel that connection they end up looking beautiful to me.

Being in shape will help our attractiveness.  Fat faces will make us look older.  Thinner will make us look younger up to a certain point.  Too thin and then we can look sickly.  I shave my head so a fat face on top of that is a death sentence.  lol

Dressing better will also help in a major way.  A lot of clothes people wear just fit poorly.  So the better fitted the better it will look.   It seems like the sizes here in the states have jumped.  A large is what used to be a extra large.

For most of us without model looks there is a lot of ways we can maximize what God gave us and attract more of what we are looking for.

Then all we need to do is be charismatic and interesting.  No problemo!   I need a vacation.   :P
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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2019, 01:54:56 PM »

Right, the better looking you are the more options which was what I was trying to get at when talking about making yourself more attractive.  I also think if you want someone who dresses more elegantly then you need to frequent those types of places.  Probably more high end establishments.  I have yet to meet women in high heels while hanging out at the Walmart registers.  I'm sure they have to be there somewhere! 

I'm just talking about me here, but looks is just the first part of attraction.  I imagine it is the same for you guys as well.  After the initial attraction I start seeing if there is a connection.  Looks alone will get boring unless you get that connection.   

I've been called cute and I think once that connection is built many will look at me more in the handsome area.  Looks alone would severely hinder my dating prospects.  haha   I've noticed the same thing with girls I though were cute and after we feel that connection they end up looking beautiful to me.

Being in shape will help our attractiveness.  Fat faces will make us look older.  Thinner will make us look younger up to a certain point.  Too thin and then we can look sickly.  I shave my head so a fat face on top of that is a death sentence.  lol

Dressing better will also help in a major way.  A lot of clothes people wear just fit poorly.  So the better fitted the better it will look.  It seems like the sizes here in the states have jumped.  A large is what used to be a extra large.

For most of us without model looks there is a lot of ways we can maximize what God gave us and attract more of what we are looking for.

Then all we need to do is be charismatic and interesting.  No problemo!   I need a vacation.   :P

With me it is just the opposite!  The XXL size seems to be the same as the XL size just a couple of years ago.  I'm sure I haven't changed.  What's a Home to do?
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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2019, 02:07:26 PM »
With me it is just the opposite!  The XXL size seems to be the same as the XL size just a couple of years ago.  I'm sure I haven't changed.  What's a Home to do?


I just switch size tags and automatically feel better.  I'm currently wearing an extra small tshirt.  ;)

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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2019, 02:19:15 PM »
The XXL size seems to be the same

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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2019, 02:26:45 PM »
I have been dating an attractive American Lady that lives close by, but I cant stand her
anymore. She is just plain boring. I would break up with her today, but I cant.

It wouldn't be this way if Russian women didn't spoil me.

Would I love to go back in time to 1993

Dump her and move on, you don't need to bring a boring woman to a business dinner
meeting. I've been to countless of those things both alone and with somebody.


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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2019, 05:18:43 AM »
You think she's going to tell the police she broke the law working as a prostitute? Unless you're famous, I doubt she'll bother you again if you hired her to eat dinner with you. She probably sleeps with a new guy everyday. I doubt she'd remember you.

New customer everyday? Are you Serious?

I think you overestimate the value of old prostitutes, and the stigma once associated with the profession. Look at the college girl from Utah that was a 'sugar baby.' She was young blonde thin and still so desperate for business, she met a foreign immigrant at an empty park at 3am. When she was found dead, did the papers call her a prostitute? No, they called her a sweet young girl looking for money to make it through college.
  With no stigma, there is a limitless supply of young women old pros have to compete with. That girls college is said to have 500 girls doing the same thing on ONE sugar baby website


Btw- I am not even looking and find it for free. There is nothing more desperate than good looking post 40 yr old women looking for a retirement plan. Desperate because they are still good looking enough to get a husband, but the clock is ticking. Their spousal value decreases day by day, while the interest on their debt increases day by day

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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2019, 08:44:17 PM »
New customer everyday? Are you Serious?

I think you overestimate the value of old prostitutes, and the stigma once associated with the profession. Look at the college girl from Utah that was a 'sugar baby.' She was young blonde thin and still so desperate for business, she met a foreign immigrant at an empty park at 3am. When she was found dead, did the papers call her a prostitute? No, they called her a sweet young girl looking for money to make it through college.
  With no stigma, there is a limitless supply of young women old pros have to compete with. That girls college is said to have 500 girls doing the same thing on ONE sugar baby website


Btw- I am not even looking and find it for free. There is nothing more desperate than good looking post 40 yr old women looking for a retirement plan. Desperate because they are still good looking enough to get a husband, but the clock is ticking. Their spousal value decreases day by day, while the interest on their debt increases day by day

Please get me the URL for this site!   8)
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2019, 04:00:22 PM »
Actually it can happen, and not just infrequently.

Not saying this will work for the extreme big belly on your guy, but overweight guys can obtain slender gals in FSU.

Note:  I only had a medium gut when I started this venture.

And my experience with a large number of FSU gals was that they had no issue with my gut at all.  In fact when I mentioned about losing weight they virtually all said:  "Don't do it; I  don't like thin guys."

Now my gut is much larger and wife has zero complaints; and I have asked her several times about it.  Her first husband (who died relatively young) was very thin, and she didn't much care for that look.

I agree ML, I tend to get the impression a lot of guys that are fat surprisingly can do well in Ukraine or perhaps Russia. I'm less sure of Belarus as they seem to be real fitness fanatics over there, almost cult like.

Maybe the bigger frame in Ukraine denotes a form of power, as in big = strong. Back in the old days in Britain, probably Europe too in the 17th & 18th century and probably before fat people could be thought as very wealthy and hence prosperous perhaps even successful people since back then to be fat tended to denote that you had the money to buy a lot of food. So perhaps fat similarly equals power and wealth in Ukraine, would be interesting to see if any UW would qualify that.

I'm guessing that a thin build might equal weakness in the FSU, as if a guy is going to be pushed around and not defend or stand up for himself. Again that may affect a woman's attitude to the guy.


Looking on the main page of Fdate we see a lot of 'popular' male members and a fair amount are graying, not in shape, one 'Vladimir' is bald and fat:
http://fdating.com/

Again it surprises me. I'm not sure what qualifies them as popular members, I would have thought interest from women. I'm no expert on how well men look to women but a lot of these I wouldn't think look the cream of the crop.

I kind of go along with what LivefromUkraine says in terms of a guy trying to up his game in his physical form. I would have thought it a huge turn off for a girl to get with a guy with a big belly hanging out.In the past year I have squeezed a bit of time down the gym in each week something I never regularly did as I would hate for a girl to be subjected to being with me out of shape and making out it was not a problem. When I was with the Ukrainian girl I was with a couple of years back even my very slight belly was not a plus point for me given her expression of it one day while out shopping.

God knows how the much larger belly guy gets on?
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2019, 04:57:20 PM »
I'm guessing that a thin build might equal weakness in the FSU, as if a guy is going to be pushed around and not defend or stand up for himself. Again that may affect a woman's attitude to the guy.


I believe in some cultures a wide berth :) can mean wealthier person.  I don't remember it being that way in Ukraine, though. 


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I kind of go along with what LivefromUkraine says in terms of a guy trying to up his game in his physical form. I would have thought it a huge turn off for a girl to get with a guy with a big belly hanging out.In the past year I have squeezed a bit of time down the gym in each week something I never regularly did as I would hate for a girl to be subjected to being with me out of shape and making out it was not a problem. When I was with the Ukrainian girl I was with a couple of years back even my very slight belly was not a plus point for me given her expression of it one day while out shopping.

God knows how the much larger belly guy gets on?


Great job Trench!  Hitting the gym also helps our self confidence.     

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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2019, 05:24:05 PM »
Funny how it's only fat foreigners that Ukrainian women find attractive, isn't it?


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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2019, 05:24:46 PM »

I believe in some cultures a wide berth :) can mean wealthier person.  I don't remember it being that way in Ukraine, though. 



Great job Trench!  Hitting the gym also helps our self confidence.   

:D Thanks, I've built up some arm muscles but haven't been able to devout enough time to it yet to get properly buff and athletic looking.

A good few months back I mentioned in a thread here about 'taking the edge off' through a little bit of gym. Some of the guys here didn't take to it too well. I like you though think it's they way to go. Sitting down and looking at things realistically and starkly a guy who doesn't look the bizness with a young hot looking Ukrainian girl, well that's just asking for trouble. If however the guy works out even just a little bit a UW may stop looking at him as a joke and he may be seen by her as a reasonable prospect or better.

I think what BillyB states also has a lot of value to that if a guy can score well in money or brains then that can offset weight issues perhaps for some women. I don't think it's easy for a lot of guys to necessarily score highly in those areas though.
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Re: Woe is me, my dating life has been ruined by Russian Women
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2019, 05:39:31 PM »
:D Thanks, I've built up some arm muscles but haven't been able to devout enough time to it yet to get properly buff and athletic looking.

A good few months back I mentioned in a thread here about 'taking the edge off' through a little bit of gym. Some of the guys here didn't take to it too well. I like you though think it's they way to go. Sitting down and looking at things realistically and starkly a guy who doesn't look the bizness with a young hot looking Ukrainian girl, well that's just asking for trouble. If however the guy works out even just a little bit a UW may stop looking at him as a joke and he may be seen by her as a reasonable prospect or better.

I think what BillyB states also has a lot of value to that if a guy can score well in money or brains then that can offset weight issues perhaps for some women. I don't think it's easy for a lot of guys to necessarily score highly in those areas though.


I've just found all aspects in life were better when working out.  I've had depressions problems ever since my years in college.  I didn't realize it wasn't common until my 30's.   I just though everyone liked to turn off all the lights and stay in bed for a week.  lol

I tried anti-depressants but found they just made me feel like a zombie. 

I got into lifting weights and the workouts were enough to help me avoid falling into an depressive episodes.   High stress causes those episodes to happen.  I noticed I would crave chocolate before an episode.  Well, pushing the weights helped release those endorphins (which I believe is why my body was craving chocolate) and released the stress before it became a real issue.  That allowed me to avoid the zombie pills and I don't remember the last time I had a depression episode.

Not only did I start looking better but overall happiness increased massively.  I try to hit the weights 3 to 4 times a week.  Jump roping for some cardio after my workouts.  Then my dog graciously allows me to walk and play with him afterwards.  haha

If you're looking into getting some size then look at higher rep ranges.  Anywhere from 8 to 15 range.  You don't need to go heavy either.  Go slow and watch how difficult even the lower weights become.  For example, try to slowly lower weights when doing bench presses.  Count to 3 on the way down and then push up fast.  Slowly lower them on a 3 count and do it again.  Burns the heck out of your muscles.

For more strength then go for higher weights and lower reps.  I started out this way but didn't have my form right and ended up hurting shoulders and knees. 

I dropped the weight and started doing more reps like I suggested earlier and no more screw ups. 

I finally got my mom doing some weight exercises to help her middle back. 
« Last Edit: July 31, 2019, 05:43:42 PM by LiveFromUkraine »

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Re: Woe is me, my dating life has been ruined by Russian Women
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2019, 05:40:40 PM »
Funny how it's only fat foreigners that Ukrainian women find attractive, isn't it?


This post was composed without the aid of google.


Well damn, first they tell me muscles are attractive.

Then it was the dad bod.

Now fat is in.

What is a guy suppose to do?   :P

 

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