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Re: My experience with Elena's Models
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2020, 04:33:11 PM »
Yes.  It does matter. 

It is easiest to get married in the United States.  Because you can get a fiancee visa, bring her over here and marry her.   They are quite easy (in relationship to other visas).   However, many of the women will want to be married in front of their families, etc.  Do not get married in a third country.   That will create headaches from both sides.
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Re: My experience with Elena's Models
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2020, 05:04:23 PM »
Does it matter which country we get married in? I don't mean a ceremony - we can have that in both - but I mean the legal document?

Getting the K-1 Visa for you to marry legally in the U.S. seems to be the fastest, I think right now It's 3-8 Months. If you get married there and file a CR-1 I seem to recall the time being something like 18-24 Months or so.

You can check here http://www.visajourney.com/times/k1-fiance-visa-historical/ that shows the historical timeline for processing.

I submitted the K-1 Paperwork recently, She wanted to have her family and friends with her when we were married so I suggested just having a JP sign the Legal Document in the US and then planing having the actual Wedding Ceremony over there with her friends and family, as well as close friends and family of mine. She seemed to love that Idea, Apparently planning a wedding takes 12-18 months according to her parents.

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Re: My experience with Elena's Models
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2020, 05:16:55 PM »
Getting the K-1 Visa for you to marry legally in the U.S. seems to be the fastest, I think right now It's 3-8 Months. If you get married there and file a CR-1 I seem to recall the time being something like 18-24 Months or so.

You can check here http://www.visajourney.com/times/k1-fiance-visa-historical/ that shows the historical timeline for processing.

I submitted the K-1 Paperwork recently, She wanted to have her family and friends with her when we were married so I suggested just having a JP sign the Legal Document in the US and then planing having the actual Wedding Ceremony over there with her friends and family, as well as close friends and family of mine. She seemed to love that Idea, Apparently planning a wedding takes 12-18 months according to her parents.

I hope her name isn't Rachel.
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Re: My experience with Elena's Models
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2020, 06:33:54 PM »
Yes.  It does matter. 

It is easiest to get married in the United States.

Getting the K-1 Visa for you to marry legally in the U.S. seems to be the fastest, I think right now It's 3-8 Months. If you get married there and file a CR-1 I seem to recall the time being something like 18-24 Months or so.

Thanks! I'll plan to do the legal stuff in the US and we'll work out the rest of it.

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Re: My experience with Elena's Models
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2020, 06:41:23 PM »
I hope her name isn't Rachel.

Rachel? Don't understand the reference :P

Hey they can take 5 years if they want ;)

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Re: My experience with Elena's Models
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2020, 06:59:58 PM »
Rachel? Don't understand the reference :P

Hey they can take 5 years if they want ;)

LOL.  As in Leah and Rachel. 
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Re: My experience with Elena's Models
« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2020, 09:37:11 AM »
...I submitted the K-1 Paperwork recently, She wanted to have her family and friends with her when we were married so I suggested just having a JP sign the Legal Document in the US and then planing having the actual Wedding Ceremony over there with her friends and family, as well as close friends and family of mine. She seemed to love that Idea, Apparently planning a wedding takes 12-18 months according to her parents.

I remember being in the exact same state as you not too long ago. Once my petition was approved, I deliberated how to make our 'wedding', along with her first arrival in the US, be that much more memorable. Not only for the two of us, but for everyone in her life. I came up with 3 options, spoke with her about it, concerned of the financial impact, she relented and bought into what I wanted to do.

So I had about a month or so for the preparation. Within that time, with her assistance, I asked her family in Russia to apply for their tourist visas. Her mother adamantly refused to go because of what the financial impact it dictates. Said 'we' can use the money for better causes. Eventually, she too relented. I, in turn, sent a copy of the letter on invitation given to her family to the Moscow's US embassy, accompanied with all my pertinent personal information, our case number, assumption of all responsibility for their care while here, and the assurances of their return back to Russia. Saying we'd really like for her family to be with us for our wedding. In the event it mattered. I then wired all necessary expense required for the trip to-from Novosibirsk-Moscow to her folks.

100% approval.

While that was happening, two consecutive weekends, I flew to Toronto and Dusseldorf to personally introduce myself and invite her two sisters and their family living in both those areas to attend their sister's wedding. They accepted.

I thought that instead of getting married either in a church, or even at nearby Ritz-Carlton with all our friends and family attending, it would be far more sensible to have the ceremony in a more private affair with only her family and few of my friends (which included two RWG members) separately, then hold a reception for everyone else at a later time. The reason being a) language challenges, b) it would've been much too intense for her folks with an overwhelming amount of people that are still strangers to her and her family. I didn't want anyone getting the feeling of 'isolation' during our wedding.

We will marry in Hawaii. Here is a sample.

The prep work not only included the necessary document follow-up but arranged every single appointments and interviews for the wedding, her arrival, travel appointments and reservation, etc.

In addition, her family's travel arrangements to LA, their accomodations while here, travel arrangement to-from LA-Hawaii, San Francisco, San Diego, Vegas, etc.

I was living a bachelor's life in Marina Del Rey at the time and was living in an apartment by the beach. Really nice complex. So I signed up 2 short-term leased furnished units for her family's accomodations.

I did all these on my own in that month or so period.

a) I scheduled all the necessary appointment for her to choose her bridal/wedding dress, post-ceremony reception dress & fitting,
b) Our (non-denomination) minister, video/photographer, make-up/stylist (hers and sisters. Schedule to come to our hotel), limousine service, hotel and airline tickets.
c) Picked and scheduled the venue. (the package includes your choice of flowers/color theme, even pigeon-release - No doves in Hawaii, Hahah!. And of course, the beachside Luau)

Worked to an almost perfection. Our reception was coincided with 4 other Luaus. There's this sea of people along the shore of Hawaii for the luau and they place our entire party in an elevated stage, facing the main stage where dancers were to perform that night, and we actually had servers where everyone else were on a buffet setup. So it looked like everyone was there for 'our' wedding as they announced a congratulatory welcome with everyone applauding for us.

I couldn't even begin to describe the happiness on my wife's face that day.

We stayed in Hawaii for an entire week. Had them experience the Hawaiian lore, took them to places in Oahu and Maui not too many tourist know or ever get to see or do. Even taught Papa how to surf.

Of course, while here, they also went to see not only L.A. and it's entertainment venues, but San Francisco, Monterey, San Diego, Santa Barbara and of course Las Vegas.

There was about a week before her family came that I threw out a barbeque party for the opportunity for my fiancée to meet my friends and colleagues. She was well received by everyone. My female friends made her feel welcomed and loved. My male friends and brother wanted to kidnap her away from me. Post-wedding, the reception at Ritz for everyone to get together....

I never thought I would ever get married before because I was totally and insanely happy being a bachelor. But I also knew myself well enough that if I were ever going to be someone's husband, I swore to be the very best I can ever manage to be for my wife. It's a once in a lifetime moment, why not make as many special people in your life happy as you possibly can, right?

How I was able to get all these things in order, I don't know. Even thinking back to it, I still don't know how I managed it.
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Re: My experience with Elena's Models
« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2020, 01:05:59 PM »
Come on Bill, no harm in having photos of a nice looking 70 year old. 
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Re: My experience with Elena's Models
« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2020, 09:35:39 AM »
LOL.  As in Leah and Rachel.

From Genesis? or is this some pop culture thing?
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Re: My experience with Elena's Models
« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2020, 11:04:53 AM »
From Genesis? or is this some pop culture thing?

Geez.

I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one who read biblical stories.
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Re: My experience with Elena's Models
« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2020, 12:23:07 PM »
For anyone interested, despite all the craziness going on, we got all the information compiled and a K-1 visa application submitted. She still has a visa to the US, so we might try and use that if it's possible to get a flight. In any case, we can start planning the wedding while we wait for the K-1 approval. :)

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Re: My experience with Elena's Models
« Reply #36 on: July 14, 2020, 02:53:48 AM »
A Russsian is not allowed out unless they have residency in the third nation...

Aug 1st May see a chance.

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« Reply #37 on: July 14, 2020, 10:45:08 PM »
A Russsian is not allowed out unless they have residency in the third nation...

Aug 1st May see a chance.

It wouldn't be before August, anyway. Let's hope it's possible, then!

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Re: My experience with Elena's Models
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2020, 04:16:44 AM »
Lots of wishful thinking happening on this thread.
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Re: My experience with Elena's Models
« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2020, 05:14:16 AM »
Unlike you, Trench, others wish for, plan and DO meet FSU W more than once and marry..

They don't take them on holidays and wonder where it went wrong, blame them and then follow their dating site exploits ..


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« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2020, 10:00:25 AM »
Lots of wishful thinking happening on this thread.

Lots? What is the wishful thinking you are referring to?

Mostly, this thread seems to have some good advice, some questions and personal stories.

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Re: My experience with Elena's Models
« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2020, 10:03:34 AM »
Once my petition was approved, I deliberated how to make our 'wedding', along with her first arrival in the US, be that much more memorable. Not only for the two of us, but for everyone in her life. I came up with 3 options, spoke with her about it, concerned of the financial impact, she relented and bought into what I wanted to do.

So I had about a month or so for the preparation. [...]

Great story! Thanks for sharing GQBlues. :)

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« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2020, 10:07:40 AM »
Lots? What is the wishful thinking you are referring to?

Mostly, this thread seems to have some good advice, some questions and personal stories.

I'm afraid you're in much the same boat as our poor Mobers. Mobe is already married but chose not to use the conventional route to bring a spouse to the UK thus cannot use the residency route to bring her out of Russia. Unfortunately it looks like it may be a long while if ever for Russia allowing easy travel in and out. It's looking almost like a new Iron curtain is descending there. Putin has recently all but been made dictator for life by being able to extend his Presidential term significantly. Meanwhile the US is in the grip of a second big Coronavirus wave so even if restrictions were raised a bit more I can't see Russia allowing any US travel.
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Re: My experience with Elena's Models
« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2020, 10:19:06 AM »
For anyone interested, despite all the craziness going on, we got all the information compiled and a K-1 visa application submitted. She still has a visa to the US, so we might try and use that if it's possible to get a flight. In any case, we can start planning the wedding while we wait for the K-1 approval. :)

Whoops! I skipped over the important part in between. I had a great trip to Russia back in February. I was there for about three weeks and it was a wonderful time with my fiancée. It included my proposing to her, so it was very eventful.

I talked with her family before the visit and let them know I wanted to marry her. They were very happy for us and even more so, once I actually asked the question and she said "yes"! :)

I arrived back in the US in March... just in time to be told to stay at home and isolate because of some new virus ;p When things had settled down a little, I began the much-less-fun process of K-1 paperwork.

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Re: My experience with Elena's Models
« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2020, 10:51:44 AM »
I'm afraid you're in much the same boat as our poor Mobers. Mobe is already married but chose not to use the conventional route to bring a spouse to the UK thus cannot use the residency route to bring her out of Russia. Unfortunately it looks like it may be a long while if ever for Russia allowing easy travel in and out. It's looking almost like a new Iron curtain is descending there. Putin has recently all but been made dictator for life by being able to extend his Presidential term significantly. Meanwhile the US is in the grip of a second big Coronavirus wave so even if restrictions were raised a bit more I can't see Russia allowing any US travel.

Well, the US is still in the grip of the original coronavirus wave. It's not really a second wave, as the numbers have been going up steadily since it started. If we get it under control, then the concern is another wave in winter. But first, we have to get it under control.

It's certainly possible that travel becomes a bigger issue but the "wishful thinking" you refer to was simply stating a hope - that travel becomes possible soon. It was actually not wishful thinking and no more speculative than your estimation that it will be a "long while, if ever" that Russia allows "easy travel" or "any US travel".

Travel between the US and Russia was not exactly "easy", in the first place. It's possible that things won't return to a more normal state until 2021. Who knows? It could be longer. We just have to see what happens.

Still, tourism and travel are big business everywhere, including Russia. It contributes trillions to their economy and employs millions of people in Russia. Russians also like to travel. Those are pretty good reasons to work towards re-opening.

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« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2020, 11:38:32 AM »
Well, the US is still in the grip of the original coronavirus wave. It's not really a second wave, as the numbers have been going up steadily since it started. If we get it under control, then the concern is another wave in winter. But first, we have to get it under control.

It's certainly possible that travel becomes a bigger issue but the "wishful thinking" you refer to was simply stating a hope - that travel becomes possible soon. It was actually not wishful thinking and no more speculative than your estimation that it will be a "long while, if ever" that Russia allows "easy travel" or "any US travel".

Travel between the US and Russia was not exactly "easy", in the first place. It's possible that things won't return to a more normal state until 2021. Who knows? It could be longer. We just have to see what happens.

Still, tourism and travel are big business everywhere, including Russia. It contributes trillions to their economy and employs millions of people in Russia. Russians also like to travel. Those are pretty good reasons to work towards re-opening.

Nothing is certain off course but Russia is lagging behind places like Ukraine and most of Europe in terms of allowing tourist type of travel. At present they don't seem to be budging on this.

Your right though in terms of the virus in the States, just looked at the curve and in the past couple of weeks it's gone sky high, far more than what I had thought. Unless things rapidly improve there it's likely most countries won't allow travel from the US. A curve like that will probably take some time to decline meaning travel before winter is probably unlikely. Then winter itself could apparently bring its own issues.
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Re: My experience with Elena's Models
« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2020, 11:48:31 AM »
I'm afraid you're in much the same boat as our poor Mobers. Mobe is already married but chose not to use the conventional route to bring a spouse to the UK thus cannot use the residency route to bring her out of Russia.

You'll have to excuse our Trenchie, he's not the brightest bulb ..!

I'm not UK resident ... 

Unfortunately it looks like it may be a long while if ever for Russia allowing easy travel in and out. It's looking almost like a new Iron curtain is descending there. Putin has recently all but been made dictator for life by being able to extend his Presidential term significantly. Meanwhile the US is in the grip of a second big Coronavirus wave so even if restrictions were raised a bit more I can't see Russia allowing any US travel.

1/ SC can meet me in Cyprus ..as we are resident there.. but I'm not going to put my elderly Ma through such a journey and ( hopefully ) my siblings can take over

2/ Once we are in CY we can apply to go to RU together (and the UK) 

3/ SC ( I haven't checked) says Turkey is open for tourist biz for many nations ( including Russia and the UK ..US was on the list )

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Re: My experience with Elena's Models
« Reply #47 on: July 24, 2020, 05:26:46 PM »
Whoops! I skipped over the important part in between. I had a great trip to Russia back in February. I was there for about three weeks and it was a wonderful time with my fiancée. It included my proposing to her, so it was very eventful.

I talked with her family before the visit and let them know I wanted to marry her. They were very happy for us and even more so, once I actually asked the question and she said "yes"! :)

I arrived back in the US in March... just in time to be told to stay at home and isolate because of some new virus ;p When things had settled down a little, I began the much-less-fun process of K-1 paperwork.

Hello.  Congratulations!

You have a long road ahead, and it helps to keep in touch regularly with each other.  Also, if you have not done so already, go to VisaJourney and sign up.  They have forums dedicated to K-1 process and tracking, and even have a Russia sub forum. 

The last I checked, I believe Aeroflot is scheduling flights to US in August.  They have some dedicated flights, but are sporadic.

Unfortunately, I am not sure if either one of you can bypass the travel ban because you aren't married yet.  I have read that some married couples have been able to visit with their paperwork in order prior to travel (marriage cert, valid visa, etc.). 

Hopefully by the time your petition is approved the embassy will open for interviews.


 

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