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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #100 on: February 28, 2020, 10:12:49 AM »
We have seen 2 Russian cars in 4 days.


I have been living in Georgia since November 2015. I've experienced 5 off seasons and 4 tourist seasons. Whether something DEAD now doesn't mean it will stay that way.


One guy lived in Georgia for 5 years. The other guy seen 2 Russian cars in 4 days. Who to trust?

Maxx, rent is cheap and you'll be living upstairs above the restaurant. You'll be fine even during slow periods.
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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #101 on: February 28, 2020, 10:30:11 AM »


My current plan is find a cook who will do mostly food preparation. I would like her to come in a 6 AM and work till 10 PM. This would be good for her as she would have time for another job.

Wow, a 16 hour a day job !!

But yes, there would still be time from 10 PM to 6 AM next morning for another job.

Sleep would be optional.

Just joking Max; I knew you meant 10 AM.
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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #102 on: February 28, 2020, 11:45:10 AM »
Wow, a 16 hour a day job !!

But yes, there would still be time from 10 PM to 6 AM next morning for another job.

Sleep would be optional.

Just joking Max; I knew you meant 10 AM.


I can be cruel and over work them when I want to!  :exploding: It was a typo. I meant say until 10 AM, not PM. I know you know that.

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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #103 on: February 28, 2020, 12:03:11 PM »
One guy lived in Georgia for 5 years. The other guy seen 2 Russian cars in 4 days. Who to trust?

The other guy has seen 2 Russian cards in  4 days . - Please write in ENGLISH  !

'The other guy' has been coming here for just over a year - but could already converse via Russian ....  enabling 'him' to chat with locals about how 'easy' things are at the moment ... economically speaking (

The 'other' guy started a GE entity, first, knew about tax implications and even got married here ;)

A year ago - one could walk down the main street and see RU families every 10m and the best restaurants had to be booked ...


In the last two days we've walked from Rustaveli to Liberty Square ( busiest main street ) and seen less than 10 Russians ...   We are a party of four and two are Russian ..last year one third of the people on the street were RU tourists ..   Russian plated cars were 1 in 20 cars ..













 















I REALLY do wish Maxx the best of luck  and will be DELIGHTED ( for him) when he is successful ..

If it wasn't for him ( Maxx )  giving ME the idea of GE - we probably wouldn't  have thought of making a biz here...  having meetings here, etc.


I was a fan of GE cuisine, wines and Chacha 16 years ago, BillyB ..when I fist tasted Kharcho soup, Khatchapuri and drank Kindzmarauli

Now then,  Silly Billy  - off you run and check the veracity of my 'claim' .... 














We'll be back, EU ..and as a certain 'gentleman' couldn't accept my offer to 'bury the hatchet' .. Don't trust a clueless Californian 'business owner' who cannot even quote me, honestly ..

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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #104 on: February 28, 2020, 12:04:14 PM »

I absolutely agree. My plan is offer food that the less dietary strict will accept. No pork in the restaurant. Vegetarian meat option. Vegetarian (soy) sour creme. Vegetarian cheese. And make the tortillas with olive oil.

LMAO! The antithesis of anything that is Mexican food. This is starting to remind me of my wife's impression of what 'authentic Mexican food' is that she had in St Petersburg.

Here, I was going to say best you serve menudo (pancita). Nothing more 'Mexican' than that.

Anyway, have fun with the process and good luck, maxx!
« Last Edit: February 28, 2020, 12:54:55 PM by GQBlues »
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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #105 on: February 28, 2020, 01:31:48 PM »

Maxx, if you do want to offer other types of foods for those who have dietary restrictions, at least offer authentic Mexican food for the majority of your customers who'd want it.
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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #106 on: February 28, 2020, 02:57:58 PM »
LMAO! The antithesis of anything that is Mexican food. This is starting to remind me of my wife's impression of what 'authentic Mexican food' is that she had in St Petersburg.

Here, I was going to say best you serve menudo (pancita). Nothing more 'Mexican' than that.

Anyway, have fun with the process and good luck, maxx!


You and Moby have wished me not well. You've taken your stand. I will post my my profits.. or not...  at the end of tourist season, 

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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #107 on: February 28, 2020, 03:00:47 PM »

I REALLY do wish Maxx the best of luck and will be DELIGHTED ( for him) when he is successful ..



Totally B.S. Moby does not understand himself.

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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #108 on: February 28, 2020, 03:09:06 PM »
Maxx, if you do want to offer other types of foods for those who have dietary restrictions, at least offer authentic Mexican food for the majority of your customers who'd want it.


As was pointed out to me by Ilona, Georgians don't know or value "authentic Mexican  food." Close enough will work just fine.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2020, 03:25:49 PM by Maxx2 »

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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #109 on: February 28, 2020, 03:16:53 PM »

You and Moby have wished me not well. You've taken your stand. I will post my my profits.. or not...  at the end of tourist season,

??? Now why would *I* not want to see you succeed? But suit yourself man...
« Last Edit: February 28, 2020, 06:47:56 PM by GQBlues »
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3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #110 on: February 28, 2020, 03:29:06 PM »
??? Now would *I* not want to see you succeed? But suit yourself man...


You've stated repeatedly I cannot succeed. How un-American is that? Where is your American 'can-do attitude?' 
« Last Edit: February 28, 2020, 03:39:28 PM by Maxx2 »

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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #111 on: February 28, 2020, 06:54:51 PM »
Either quote me, or best understand what I actually said dude. I did commented on your silly remark that youíre doing this to hopefully lure a woman to be your partner, paraphrased of course. If so, I think thatís just stupid all things considered. I told you to just put your energy in meeting that someone instead of going about it this way. Your priorities are totally out of whack.

Look what youíve done so far, worked with an Indian to show you the way to make Mexican food. Now heís gone and you end up working with a young mother of two to help you, but you get emotionally involved with her instead. Now you hook up with a Jew and a Muslim for lunch and, literally, you instantly scrap the whole education you learned in how to make authentic Mexican food! Out the window!

What or which of these chapters did you want people to wish you luck with, dude!?

Maxx, tbh, I donít give a rats arse whether you win, lose or draw. Youíre far too emotional for your own good sometimes. Itís a f***king message board, dude. Iím done wishing the best for you, for what, the last 15-17 years?
« Last Edit: February 28, 2020, 07:12:36 PM by GQBlues »
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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #112 on: February 28, 2020, 07:40:52 PM »

As was pointed out to me by Ilona, Georgians don't know or value "authentic Mexican  food." Close enough will work just fine.

Ilona is in her mid 20's. People her age think Taco Bell quality is good enough. Decorate your restaurant appropriately, give it character and it'll give your customers a special experience and memories. Perfect your cooking and you'll have people advertise by word of mouth to increase your chances of success.
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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #113 on: February 28, 2020, 07:51:33 PM »

You and Moby have wished me not well. You've taken your stand. I will post my my profits.. or not...  at the end of tourist season,

A prime example of Maxx 'rewriting' an event   /  believing he 'knew' what folk meant .. !

I keep wishing you well...

 I am saying you are trying this at a VERY  difficult time - when even popular restaurant franchises are failing
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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #114 on: February 29, 2020, 03:45:51 PM »
Max, perhaps you could just buy a franchise for the popular Russian restaurant chain.
Located on practically every street in Russia.

It's name is PECTOPAH.
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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #115 on: March 06, 2020, 12:14:16 AM »













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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #116 on: March 06, 2020, 12:41:14 PM »
Maxx, rent is cheap and you'll be living upstairs above the restaurant. You'll be fine even during slow periods.


Today I had my rental agreement in Georgian being translated into English. Should be done Monday


Tomorrow Saturday I am going to talk with my business landlord. I am concerned about the coronavirus killing tourism in Batumi. I'll try and get him to agree that the rent can be cut in event things go dead. But I don't know what would be considered dead. Fine time to start a business dependent upon tourism when a global pandemic is sweeping the world. I may have to sleep up in the loft. There is a functional bathtub in my storage room...
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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #117 on: March 14, 2020, 11:57:50 PM »
Thursday I went by train to Tbilisi. Went by business class. Very nice. I noticed First class and business class were about 80% empty.


Friday I went to Armenia to do my once a year border crossing. Everyone at custom control was wearing masks. When entering back in they took my temperature 3 times.


Saturday the borders to Azerbaijan and Armenia were closed due to the coronavirus . They are to remain closed until the 24th of March. Goods from trucks are allowed to cross.


My restaurant equipment is really shaping up. I should have it on tomorrow Monday or maybe Tuesday. I'll open as in get my business license when I see enough tourists on the streets. In the meantime I'll work on getting the place looking as clean and efficient as possible. My restuarant equipment inspires confidence in the cleanliness of the place. Workers wearing masks and gloves. I imagine people are going to want to get out of this coronavirus lock down mode and do something fun. I'll see.

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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #119 on: March 15, 2020, 09:23:42 AM »
Info in Eng re Virus updates in GE

http://stopcov.ge/en


Flights to GE from UK still working !
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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #120 on: March 15, 2020, 12:53:19 PM »
I'll open as in get my business license when I see enough tourists on the streets.


Maxx, this virus thing isn't going to end in a few months. It will probably last years like SARS and MERS before we get full control over it. You need to make a decision to quit buying restaurant equipment and pause the business or open soon knowing tourists may not be showing up in large numbers anytime soon. Also consider the government may close your business temporarily and occasionally to keep people from gathering.
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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #121 on: March 15, 2020, 10:55:33 PM »
Maxx, this virus thing isn't going to end in a few months. It will probably last years like SARS and MERS before we get full control over it. You need to make a decision to quit buying restaurant equipment and pause the business or open soon knowing tourists may not be showing up in large numbers anytime soon. Also consider the government may close your business temporarily and occasionally to keep people from gathering.


I am preparing to convert the business location into living quarters. I have only $666 (2000 GEL @ 3-USD) in equipment to purchase, the final payment. This amount includes delivery and set up.


My monthly rent is $500. Once I get a business license I have to pay another $100 (20%) to the Revenue Department for a rent tax. Why do this if tourism is dead? The coronavirus is an unknown. Even my Georgian business landlord had to cancel his plans of leaving to Canada to join his Georgian wife there. He is leaving tomorrow instead of next month. He understands Turkish airlines are stopping all flights this Thursday. These are crazy times! Frankly I am scared.


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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #122 on: March 19, 2020, 04:48:09 AM »



Things are really getting crazy out there! I have heard only one flight take off from the Batumi airport in the last 4 days. All restaurants, schools, bars and gymnasiums are shut down. Even the jewelry store next door is closed. The banks have suspended mortgage payments for their clients. The gymnasium I go to doesn't have to make a payment for 3 months. Today I seen the police in a grocery store supervising the disinfecting of the store. Metro City parking lot is 95% empty. The restaurant and casino is shut down so that giant TV screen is off. There are no tourists. They all went home. No mini buses are running. Very little traffic. All the borders are closed. I just called Khatuna my lawyer and she told me the notary is closed. It might open on Monday, but she is not sure. The banks are open though. My restaurant equipment is on its way. It should be here in a few hours.

My current plan is get my restaurant equipment set up. The venting, plumbing and electrical. I am getting the loft upstairs turned into a lounge/bedroom. I got a bathroom with a bath so I am set there. I won't register the business until I see tourism return. In the meantime I might hire the woman who works next door to help me fine tune this business. She is not getting paid and I know her pay and it is easily affordable for me (less that $200 a month).

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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #123 on: March 19, 2020, 01:19:38 PM »
Maxx, I would definitely negotiate a reduction in the rent. Trade is expected to be slow to non existent and many other restaurants might go out of business along with other businesses. So big supply of premises before too long but little demand. Those locals without the sort of financial backing you have got won't want to risk it. Handled right though you could end up well placed when the eventual revival comes along.
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Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi
« Reply #124 on: March 19, 2020, 06:25:32 PM »
Maxx, if you open up the restaurant, always keep it clean, offer hand sanitizer at the front door and most importantly, get an anti theft toilet paper dispenser.
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