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« Reply #125 on: November 26, 2020, 08:19:00 AM »
Your post was excellent, Davo

Oh you think. Davo has done some very good posts in the past. I think this time though he's post is everything that is wrong with society, "...a lot of this comments just seem strange to guys like myself who are the same age, have courted a woman, got married, raised a family, divorced and then started and entered new relationships.....".

What I'm about to say isn't a crack at Davo it's what people in society derive in general that they see just getting the above done with whoever and as soon as you can as what you should buy into in life. Instead of looking for the life you want to lead and finding out and fulfilling who you are the trappings of marriage, house and kids as soon as with whatever woman will be willing to 'go along with it' as the way forward in life.

Society is being built on false notions and it's not leading to much happiness. It's why drug use is increasing and mental health is declining as people try to come to terms with the unhappiness this has brought into their life.
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« Reply #126 on: November 26, 2020, 08:24:11 AM »
Oh you think. Davo has done some very good posts in the past.

His post seemed particularly aimed a helping you... some helpful critique..

Seems that after all this time, you might me a little less selective and pay less heed to claim to be iconoclastic

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« Reply #127 on: November 26, 2020, 08:31:12 AM »
Oh you think. Davo has done some very good posts in the past. I think this time though he's post is everything that is wrong with society, "...a lot of this comments just seem strange to guys like myself who are the same age, have courted a woman, got married, raised a family, divorced and then started and entered new relationships.....".

What I'm about to say isn't a crack at Davo it's what people in society derive in general that they see just getting the above done with whoever and as soon as you can as what you should buy into in life. Instead of looking for the life you want to lead and finding out and fulfilling who you are the trappings of marriage, house and kids as soon as with whatever woman will be willing to 'go along with it' as the way forward in life.

Society is being built on false notions and it's not leading to much happiness. It's why drug use is increasing and mental health is declining as people try to come to terms with the unhappiness this has brought into their life.


YOu are right, there are many women i know who want kids with me, happy to stay with me in FSU. If i used rwd standards on what defines success 'being married', i would maybe be unhappy. A lot of people think getting a woman to say yes is hard, it is not. What is hard is a woman actually choosing to have a family with you, to commit to you for life, being happy to live with you if it is the west or the FSU.


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« Reply #128 on: November 26, 2020, 10:36:25 AM »
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« Reply #129 on: November 26, 2020, 10:47:34 AM »
japtats  =  DragonKid


Who told you that?
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« Reply #130 on: November 26, 2020, 11:17:13 AM »
Your post was excellent, Davo

Not sure I agree that Beel still believes V.chat should be used to filter out ladies you'd not want to meet in a VM trip, but if he did mean that, I apologise

Bill believes that V chat should absolutely be used in visit one and not in visit many.

Trench should spend 10 hours per week in video chat with real women.
He would get better at talking to women and eventually gain confidence.
Women love, love, love confidence!

Trench makes excuses, such as he is knackered after working at his
grueling part time job and 6 month long remodeling project where
he hammers in 11 nails 2 days per week.

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« Reply #131 on: November 26, 2020, 11:25:40 AM »
If i used rwd standards on what defines success 'being married', i would maybe be unhappy. A lot of people think getting a woman to say yes is hard, it is not. What is hard is a woman actually choosing to have a family with you, to commit to you for life, being happy to live with you if it is the west or the FSU.

I could have married countless women, but I kept looking until
I found the woman of my dreams. Then I spent one year and
six trips (4 to her and 2 to me) to make sure she was the one.

I think you are making your assessment of RWD standards based on
one very opinionated member that disagrees with nearly everybody
about nearly everything.

FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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« Reply #132 on: November 26, 2020, 12:32:50 PM »

Who told you that?

Do you think it is 'fake news', BillyB  ?;)

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« Reply #133 on: November 26, 2020, 12:37:45 PM »
His post seemed particularly aimed a helping you... some helpful critique..

Seems that after all this time, you might me a little less selective and pay less heed to claim to be iconoclastic

I'm not iconoclastic for the sake of it, only when I see a gapping hole people are repeatedly falling into.
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« Reply #134 on: November 26, 2020, 12:47:01 PM »
I'm not iconoclastic for the sake of it, only when I see a gapping hole people are repeatedly falling into.

You'll have to explain you expertise in avoiding said 'gapping' hole ...  Are you saying better not try and fail ( and learn by your mistakes ) period ?

Come on, Trenchie, it really comes across like you are making excuses, now ! ;)

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« Reply #135 on: November 26, 2020, 12:47:19 PM »
Bill believes that V chat should absolutely be used in visit one and not in visit many.

Trench should spend 10 hours per week in video chat with real women.
He would get better at talking to women and eventually gain confidence.
Women love, love, love confidence!

Trench makes excuses, such as he is knackered after working at his
grueling part time job and 6 month long remodeling project where
he hammers in 11 nails 2 days per week.

The last paragraph feels too true, lol. I nearly always feel that I hardly get enough work done, but it's getting colder now so it's even harder.

I can talk to women all day long if I want, I'm confident talking to women in general. It's a different case talking to women where there is chemistry, that's not as easy but it's easier if online dating has taken care of the preliminaries and know something about her and something to talk about.

Unfortunately you only ever know if there is chemistry until arrival. So while a girl won't likely stick around if you haven't been chatting a lot beforehand (v chat, etc) if there is no chemistry it does the ditching the girl and move on part easy.
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« Reply #136 on: November 26, 2020, 12:53:37 PM »


Unfortunately you only ever know if there is chemistry until arrival.

 :ROFL:

Nope..  I invited my future first Russian wife to Cyprus and had a pretty certain idea she was going to be the one..

Sadly, that didn't work out and 9 years later I flew to Sochi to meet SC knowing we had something, even though she likes to chew Garlic ;)


I'm not saying I'm more correct.. just that you made an assertion that I simply have not experienced .. 

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« Reply #137 on: November 26, 2020, 01:10:30 PM »

I think you are making your assessment of RWD standards based on
one very opinionated member that disagrees with nearly everybody
about nearly everything.

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« Reply #138 on: November 26, 2020, 01:30:07 PM »

YOu are right, there are many women i know who want kids with me, happy to stay with me in FSU. If i used rwd standards on what defines success 'being married', i would maybe be unhappy. A lot of people think getting a woman to say yes is hard, it is not. What is hard is a woman actually choosing to have a family with you, to commit to you for life, being happy to live with you if it is the west or the FSU.

Indeed, that's exactly right. A lot guys will go to the FSU to meet a girl with below par looks or at best everyday looks and then coo on about how they are the greatest, and succeeded in meeting a wonderful and beautiful woman. Now she may not be the biggest minger going and attractive enough to get off with and still get it on but in their heart of hearts they are just coming themselves. In fairness some won't be that bothered about looks and will be actually into the person. Most others will be that they get on well enough with the person but won't admit to others and probably not themselves either that they felt that she was just the best that they can get, nothing necessarily wrong with that but then going off and spouting about 'suceeding' and being with a top woman is just laughable.

I myself could have gotten with UK women and like yourself Japs could easily land a FSW if I went for one of the less wanted women, but they normally come with downsides, sometimes several, it might just be looks or it could be more as well. For me I couldn't feel right risking passing on genes to offspring that would make them come last in life and pretending I've played a blinder.
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« Reply #139 on: November 26, 2020, 01:31:23 PM »
DragonKid, you are making a huge, huge, huge mistake covering yourself in tattoos. I cannot emphasize enough what a colossal mistake you are making by covering yourself in tattoos.

Seriously DragonKid, no more tattoos, you need to stop it. It is going to be much more difficult now for you to find a marriage-caliber woman with all of the tats. You can still do it of course, but you just shrank the available pool of women for marriage for yourself by probably 90 to 95%. Why would you just make it exponentially harder for yourself to find a high-quality woman for marriage by covering yourself in tattoos ??  (Face Palm) 

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« Reply #140 on: November 26, 2020, 01:37:51 PM »
I'm not saying I'm more correct.. just that you made an assertion that I simply have not experienced ..

I've video chatted with FSW and gotten on well talking to them on v chat. We talked about many topics we could relate too. I found them hot when talking to them on v chat and they seemed attracted to me. I've gone to meet some hot women based on that but when on meeting it went flat.

I think your problem is Mobers that you don't understand that you can think you can have one thing but really instead have another and be oblivious to it all.
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« Reply #141 on: November 26, 2020, 01:47:31 PM »
The last paragraph feels too true, lol. I nearly always feel that I hardly get enough work done, but it's getting colder now so it's even harder.

Trench, STOP MAKING lame excuses. I know of 15 year old overweight teenage
boys who had to clean the school urinals that whine less than you do.

I worked 80-90 hours per week living in a camp trailer in 5 miles down
a dirt road in North Dakota with ICE inside the walls. The water didn't
work because it was frozen for 4 months straight.

I heated up water that I packed in with a microwave to take a shower
every day. I went down to a shower place that cost me a buck a minute
twice per week for a 15-20 minute "Hollywood Shower"



One evening the window on my car opened and wouldn't close. It was
-19F (-28C). This was 3 days before I was going to see Angel Eyes for
the 3rd time.

I was a member of the forum back then. Go back and find a single post
where I complain about it. Go find a single post where I used it as an
excuse or it held me back in any way. This was where I lived when I
met Angel Eyes.


NOTE: If you can see white bone poking out of your skin,
or you can see arterial blood squirting more than two inches in the air then you
have a valid excuse to stop doing what I recommend. Otherwise, it's a lame excuse. 



I can talk to women all day long if I want, I'm confident talking to women
in general. It's a different case talking to women where there is chemistry,
that's not as easy but it's easier if online dating has taken care of the
preliminaries and know something about her and something to talk about.

Obviously, you aren't confident talking to a woman in general with possible
romantic implications. You need to practice just like you've been told dozens
of times by various members of this forum. I am right and you are wrong.


Unfortunately you only ever know if there is chemistry until arrival. So
while a girl won't likely stick around if you haven't been chatting a lot
beforehand (v chat, etc) if there is no chemistry it does the ditching
the girl and move on part easy.

You need the practice, so go do it.

Unfortunately you only ever know if there is chemistry until arrival.

Moby thinks otherwise but he is wrong.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2020, 04:48:03 PM by 2tallbill »
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« Reply #142 on: November 26, 2020, 02:21:19 PM »
DragonKid, you are making a huge, huge, huge mistake covering yourself in tattoos. I cannot emphasize enough what a colossal mistake you are making by covering yourself in tattoos.

Seriously DragonKid, no more tattoos, you need to stop it. It is going to be much more difficult now for you to find a marriage-caliber woman with all of the tats. You can still do it of course, but you just shrank the available pool of women for marriage for yourself by probably 90 to 95%. Why would you just make it exponentially harder for yourself to find a high-quality woman for marriage by covering yourself in tattoos ??  (Face Palm)


Ask on my trip report. I am not going to floor Trench's thread about my tattoos.

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« Reply #143 on: November 26, 2020, 02:25:56 PM »

Moby thinks otherwise but he is wrong.

Moby can STILL see your posts .. and it is pretty clear YOU are wrong, given it has clearly worked out twice ...  ( even though I failed on the maintaining the relationship part )

'Chemistry' was achieved and a VO confirmed it

That you espouse a method ( VM) whereby you lucked into your lovely wife should be a sticky ;)








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« Reply #144 on: November 26, 2020, 02:26:43 PM »
Moby disagreeing, that we only ever know if theres chemistry on arrival. Read his very own words below  :rolleyes:


Nope..  I invited my future first Russian wife to Cyprus and had a pretty certain idea she was going to be the one..

Sadly, that didn't work out and 9 years later I flew to Sochi to meet SC.....

Literally the worst advice......ever.  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #145 on: November 26, 2020, 02:29:18 PM »
.. and it is pretty clear YOU are wrong, given it has clearly worked out twice ...  ( even though I failed on the maintaining the relationship part )

This is gold   :deadhorse:

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« Reply #146 on: November 26, 2020, 03:19:15 PM »
Moby disagreeing, that we only ever know if theres chemistry on arrival. Read his very own words below  :rolleyes:

Literally the worst advice......ever.  :rolleyes:


Why?  What, exactly, is "chemistry"? 


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« Reply #147 on: November 26, 2020, 04:03:08 PM »

I myself could have gotten with UK women and like yourself Japs could easily land a FSW if I went for one of the less wanted women, but they normally come with downsides, sometimes several, it might just be looks or it could be more as well. For me I couldn't feel right risking passing on genes to offspring that would make them come last in life and pretending I've played a blinder.

I think it is something i resonate with at the moment. I am getting with a lot of women, but part of me knows once i sort out a few things, i will attract even better. But then again, at what cost? Sometimes i think it is better to meet someone a bit more simple, and give them the support to truly blossom. My tattoo master i learnt is trolling women on tinder, he is ukrainian makes pretty good money, maybe 4x what average ukrainian makes, but he has been beaten up so many times. I am very harsh, and quick to end things and move on, i don't let a pretty face fall me, if there is not real connection (sex is different, and i don't count this as a connection)

He goes on tinder pretending he is rich, from our talks, i understand deep down he is hurt , he tells me to go for simple girls. I think that is what he learnt the hard way. Maybe what you want to get, you end up getting, but it is not what you actually want in the end, and you learn this the hard way. A woman can truly destroy you.

A lot of billionaires marry simple women, because in the end they realise those are the type of women that actually cherish them. But this is something i am still figuring out myself. 2Tall sometimes says find a woman crazy about you, and i think he is right, find a woman who is truly crazy for you, and help her blossom.

I am in the position for a woman not need to work. She can focus going to the gym, take care of the family, cook and clean. I prefer to find someone who has a good work ethic to make this happen, my issue is a lot of women i met were lazy. Some had the gym aspect down, but they were just way not for me, some were crazy for me, but had piss poor work ethic, and i quickly dump them. Some women are shocked, because they see the girls, and these girls are hot, but they are young and hot, give them 10 years, these women will be fat, and lazy.


I have a feeling if i was single at 50, i would have no issues dating women in their early 30's. I will be physically fit successful in what i do in life, and developed in such a good way. But where does it actually stop? Where do you draw the line at the best you can get? When i decided that i wanted to propose to my fiance, she was physically fit, killing the gym, top university, trainee Dr, she was like a model (when i posted pics, people were blown away). I felt that was my limit, and i think that is why i was focused on her.
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« Reply #148 on: November 26, 2020, 04:25:40 PM »

Why?  What, exactly, is "chemistry"? 

Do you defend every post Moby makes? Chemistry as in living with someone, physical chemistry , talking on webcam is different from real life. Well maybe not for us men, but for women, they need to see a guy in real life.

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« Reply #149 on: November 26, 2020, 04:30:22 PM »
I am not defending moby.  I merely asked a question.  But I will ask why you have a compulsive need to bring up his failed marriage in every third post.  Does anyone here bring up your two (or is it more) failed engagements?  Does anyone here bring up other posters' failed marriages?  It's rather irrelevant, isn't it?  BTW, there are other posters here with even higher numbers of failed marriages.  They've posted about them in the past.  I view those individuals as sensible posters who could give you good advice.  But, they don't engage with you at all, possibly because they don't want their pasts thrown in their faces.

"Chemistry" obviously means different things to different people.  It depends on what is important to that particular person/couple, what they desire in another person, what they want in life, their spiritual development, etc.  If you read what psychologists say, "chemistry" has almost nothing to do with the physical, it's all about an emotional connection.  All your definition tells me is what is important to you.

How do you know what women need IRL?  Particularly all women?  When were you last a woman?  Are you believing the sweet lies FSUW tell you?

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