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Offline Elen

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« Reply #50 on: March 28, 2005, 11:35:01 AM »
Salad Olivie (in my interpretation :D - poor Frenchman cook Lusien Olivie just turns in his grave:D)

5 boiled (with rind) potatos (should be peeled off before cutting of course:D)

5 boiled eggs

2 boiled carrots

300 gr of boiled meat (or boiled sausage, or chiken fillet)

200 gr conserve marrowfat pea

2 apples (without skin)

2 marinaded (or pickled) cucumber

2 onion (but I don't like it :? so it's optional)

All ingredients are cut on  pices not bigger than 0,7 mm, mix added with salt and dressed with mayonnaise.

According to statistic more than 60% of Russians have this dish on New Year tables


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« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2005, 11:43:36 AM »
Olivier salad... The famous Russian salad. One of our Rssian comics said - The New Year holiday means nothing if there is no a big basin filled with olivier on the table. :D 

But the doctors say - this salad is like the atomic blow for your liver.  Coz of mix of protein and carbohydrate and starch   :(
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« Reply #52 on: March 28, 2005, 11:50:14 AM »
Salad olivie :

cooked chicken meat (white and dark, does not matter about 1.5 lb)
carrots (two medium)
canned peas (1 can, about 4-6 oz)
eggs (5)
potatoes (2 baking size)
pickles (1 pickle Polish dill)
parsley or dill (whichever you prefer)
sour cream, whipping cream and mayo.



Cook all the vegetables, meat and eggs. Eggs have to be boiled for at least 10 minutes until they harden really well, so you can cut them into pieces easily. Peel everything needed peeling. Then chop everything (in nice little cubes, no larger than 1/3 of an inch each). Mix all the ingredients, add salt and pepper and finely chopped parsley or dill. You can prepare the dish the day before and let it stay in the refrigerator. Approximately an hour before serving mix the dressing: equal portions of mayo and sour-cream and dilute everything with whipping cream so it has a yougurt-like consistency. Mix the dressing with the salad, making sure that all the ingredients get coated with it, put salad in individual tarts and serve.

At the right on photo :

 

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« Reply #53 on: March 28, 2005, 11:58:33 AM »
Quote from: Elen
Salad Olivie (in my interpretation :D - poor Frenchman cook Lusien Olivie just turns in his grave:D)

Certainly :shock: Because it is the wrong guys... not Lusien... but Olivie DeBef :P, the frenck cook...

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« Reply #54 on: March 28, 2005, 12:11:58 PM »
my sourses say his name was Lusien:P But never mind Any way his family name was Olivie and he worked in Moscow:P

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« Reply #55 on: March 28, 2005, 12:16:09 PM »
Bravo, Elen. Olivier is NATIONAL RUSSIAN salad.
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« Reply #56 on: March 28, 2005, 12:34:00 PM »
Quote from: Bruno
Salad olivie :

cooked chicken meat (white and dark, does not matter about 1.5 lb)
carrots (two medium)
canned peas (1 can, about 4-6 oz)
eggs (5)
potatoes (2 baking size)
pickles (1 pickle Polish dill)
parsley or dill (whichever you prefer)
sour cream, whipping cream and mayo.



Cook all the vegetables, meat and eggs. Eggs have to be boiled for at least 10 minutes until they harden really well, so you can cut them into pieces easily. Peel everything needed peeling. Then chop everything (in nice little cubes, no larger than 1/3 of an inch each). Mix all the ingredients, add salt and pepper and finely chopped parsley or dill. You can prepare the dish the day before and let it stay in the refrigerator. Approximately an hour before serving mix the dressing: equal portions of mayo and sour-cream and dilute everything with whipping cream so it has a yougurt-like consistency. Mix the dressing with the salad, making sure that all the ingredients get coated with it, put salad in individual tarts and serve.

At the right on photo :

 
Where do you see Olivier salad, Bruno?!!! I mean the pic you attached.
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« Reply #57 on: March 28, 2005, 12:52:26 PM »
:D

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« Reply #58 on: March 28, 2005, 02:08:16 PM »
Quote from: Elen
my sourses say his name was Lusien:P But never mind Any way his family name was Olivie and he worked in Moscow:P

Take a look at http://www.russianfoods.com/recipes/item001E2/_hide_/default.asp

Arrow : Where do you see Olivier salad, Bruno?!!! I mean the pic you attached.


Like i have write... on the right side of pic, in the orange color recipient ( not yet mixed with mayonaise )

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« Reply #59 on: March 28, 2005, 05:47:13 PM »
This "blacklist" of foods quickly has changed to a hen party exchanging recipes! LOL,

My vote for worst taste would be Salo! It does taste just like you think it does.. Nasty! 

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« Reply #60 on: March 28, 2005, 06:51:20 PM »
I found nothing about first name of Olivie there Bruno. As for recipe then there are such many variation of them as the cookers:D So in each house you'd find some different "Olivie"

 

Salo:D:D 

That is Ukraine "achivement" But Russians like it too:P And you Westerns  will never understand why:P:P

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« Reply #61 on: March 28, 2005, 06:55:06 PM »
At least that salo in the picture has some meat in it. All the stuff I saw (and tried) was just straight fat.

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« Reply #62 on: March 28, 2005, 07:03:21 PM »
next time let ask with meat( tough if there is some "salmonella" it would be right in meat but not in fat;) So to eat salo with meat is more dangerous business)

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« Reply #63 on: March 28, 2005, 10:01:54 PM »
Ahh.. salo, garlic, onions, salt, dark bread, we add some olives and goat cheese.. yummy meal.

Actually Americans have an aversion to any type of meats that   are not cooked. Eating uncooked meats is quite common here in europe. Italian 'pancetta' which is similar to salo and 'prosciutto crudo' which is cured raw ham.  How bout some tartar?.. which is uncooked very lean hamburger meat with a raw egg on top.

You should only try these in Europe since the problem is that eating uncooked pork and other meats in the US may not be healthy (trichinosis?).  If for generations you are told not to eat uncooked meat of course it will be 'yucky' :D

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« Reply #64 on: March 28, 2005, 10:32:43 PM »
Fat salo is just right theme for topic during Orthodox Lent:D

So what about such russian dishes as variouse "kashi"

what kind of kasha you can't bear?

buckwheat ( I love it:D with milk or like a garnish to meat. Also one of the best gastronomical memory of my childhood is kasha "размазня" in summer pioneer camps  - a gruel kasha made from crushed buckwheat  )

millet (I prefer it with raisins )

rise (do you have a proper rise in your shops for such sort of kasha)

semolina (the worst childhood memory:X is cold semolina)

oatmeal porridge (something close to cold semonila in my childhood's memory but now I do like it some times in the morning. And I prefer to make it by myself on milk but not to buy fast cooked)

pearl-barley (the nightmare of Russian soldiers as they eat tons of this kasha in Army:D)

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« Reply #65 on: March 29, 2005, 02:07:02 AM »
Kasha - I eat and like them all.  Millet with beans (my modification here in the USA) is one of my favorite.
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« Reply #66 on: March 29, 2005, 03:48:40 AM »
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Kasha - I eat and like them all.  Millet with beans (my modification here in the USA) is one of my favorite.

 

What about boiled buckwheat, Bruce? Bet, you've even never heard of it. lol
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« Reply #67 on: March 29, 2005, 05:45:07 AM »
I'll ask my wife about that one. 
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« Reply #68 on: March 29, 2005, 05:57:27 AM »
buckwheat

VERY healthy product (especially for diabetics)

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« Reply #69 on: March 29, 2005, 06:15:22 AM »
It looks like Kasha Greishka to me, which I eat all the time.  I believe I misunderstood you all.  Of course that is excellent stuff, also good with beans and very healthy.
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« Reply #70 on: March 29, 2005, 06:26:06 AM »
yes it's grechka

Millet with beans

Grechka with beans

Do you eat ALL with beans?:D
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« Reply #71 on: March 29, 2005, 06:42:52 AM »
Of all the new (to me) foods I've had when I was traveling over there there are only a couple that I didn't care for. Most everything was very good. I've actually found a few new favorites. My Tanya is a good cook. I enjoyed all the salads that I've tried.

The 2 not so good ones that come to mind is 1. Salo 2. We had a meat perogie that was made with over cooked, dry ground up kidney. I forget the name of it but, I'll pass on it next time. :?

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« Reply #72 on: March 29, 2005, 07:07:56 AM »
Usually I eat millet and grechka alone.  Sometimes I combine beans with them.  My wife is used to my spartan eating, even before me since her father was a professional athlete and has been full time coach / trainer after his short athletic career for the rest of his life.   Luckily for me my wife's family does not view my eating habits as too weird, since I eat pretty much the same as their father. 
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« Reply #73 on: March 30, 2005, 07:38:23 AM »
buckwheat

millet

semolina

pearl-barley

А че это за каши? :shock:
By the way, what about backon if you don't eat salo?
« Last Edit: March 30, 2005, 07:39:00 AM by Fiorella »

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« Reply #74 on: March 30, 2005, 08:36:33 AM »
Cooked bacon is good. I don't eat verymuch of that though. I seldom eat breakfast.

 

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