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Friendly discussion: I think that most women these days care more about how they are treated, if their men listens to them and shows that they care for them. I actually never considered that women on the whole are looking for men or a mate based solely on their looks and how good a guy is in bed - not the women I'm after quite honestly. Most of my female friends would probably agree and have articulated that. I feel sex for men and women are different things and are attached with different expectations and utilization.

Yeah everyone wants a fantastic screw but you take home the person who is stable, compatible and meets your emotional needs...and if he occasionally hits your g-spot even better.


Western women have a good income, and look for other things in men , that they consider more important. Way he looks, how good he is in bed. Salvic women will put more emphasis on your income, one thing we have over FSUM. Generally women are women, go to a date with some flowers, or what not, don't split the bill, be financially responsible, if possible dress and look the part, and you are done.

I don't knwo why people overcomplicate this stuff, next thing you see they are reading 'learn russian in 10,000 hours' , so they can say 'Dear, where is the toilet?' in russian, thinking that will get her wetter than November.

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And quite honestly I'm not so sure the allure of an American or Western guy over a local guy is all about his wallet - I think the opportunity for better life carries some weight but i also believe that Western men are conditioned to be kinder more empathetic towards women in general compared to our Slavic counterparts. That is part of our normalized way - more democratic in decision making and yeah..a little less "manly" to say it in simple terms.

I hate to bring up my personal stories (like many have done here) but oh well...I was a poor college student and my 20 year old Ukrainian gf chose me over her very wealthy local ex-boyfriend - I think based on how I treated her.

I'm in conversation with a few ladies who are managers of banks and financial institutions and I'm sure their circle is full of men of high worth. Leaving that lifestyle to an American life would actually be a downgrade in my little suburbia but i think that goes to show that women want to be treated with respect and equality more than anything.

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I think that most women these days care more about how they are treated, if their men listens to them and shows that they care for them. I actually never considered that women on the whole are looking for men or a mate based solely on their looks and how good a guy is in bed - not the women I'm after quite honestly. Most of my female friends would probably agree and have articulated that. I feel sex for men and women are different things and are attached with different expectations and utilization.

Yeah everyone wants a fantastic screw but you take home the person who is stable, compatible and meets your emotional needs...and if he occasionally hits your g-spot even better.

Why go for countries where the women are on a low income? If it is not an escape. me and my girlfriend were discussing guys on here, she told me 'these guys talk about love, because they want to avoid doing what is hard, improving themselves'. Irony is talking about loving then going to a country where the income is low, it is like blinding yourself of the reality.

Women tell you what you want to hear, the reality is simple, you are going to a low income country. No sugar coating changes that, if you want love stick at home, find women using your merits you think you offer. All that happens is FSU is trading your financial power to amplify your worth.

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And quite honestly I'm not so sure the allure of an American or Western guy over a local guy is all about his wallet - I think the opportunity for better life carries some weight but i also believe that Western men are conditioned to be kinder more empathetic towards women in general compared to our Slavic counterparts. That is part of our normalized way - more democratic in decision making and yeah..a little less "manly" to say it in simple terms.

I hate to bring up my personal stories (like many have done here) but oh well...I was a poor college student and my 20 year old Ukrainian gf chose me over her very wealthy local ex-boyfriend - I think based on how I treated her.

I'm in conversation with a few ladies who are managers of banks and financial institutions and I'm sure their circle is full of men of high worth. Leaving that lifestyle to an American life would actually be a downgrade in my little suburbia but i think that goes to show that women want to be treated with respect and equality more than anything.

There is something to be said for making an emotional connection with a woman, western or FSW. Imagine the case of a male & female that are in a relationship together and both look like models. Imagine that they got together just based on being of the same social status looks wise. Odds are if they don't come to care for each other it wouldn't be long before that relationship falls apart most likely at least one cheating on the other.

That said Camera guy as you have noticed yourself an emotional connection is more of a western trait in women, we see Hollywood films all the time where the guy finally wins out by coming good on my that front. FSW are often so much so on the emotional front, I'm not saying they don't have any of it but I think practical concerns play a big part in their lives, in a way they have to for many that aren't so wealthy. A FSW won't probably take well to a WM treating her like a 'thing' but they tend towards more of the old skool traditional partnership of a man fulfilling his end off the bargain (providing) and a female in turn her end (domestic duties, having and upbringing children & love making as far as she can). That's the way society is geared over there. Soviet Era women are often more genuine and emotional in my opinion, but your talking around 40 plus years of age, possibly a mid thirties girl or so might not be too bad. A lot of the younger generation girls are way different and can be as cold as ice inside and manipulative and smiling on the outside, so watch out! I'm not saying they are all bad, there are some genuinely friendly socialable FSW and everything in between but it takes time & experience to work out the tell tell signs of a girl that might not be all that genuinely decent. I know a old Soviet FSW at home and for a while couldn't work out why she was so much genuinely a nicer and kinder person than the younger FSW girls I had met.

Japs will tell you also that you need to be careful with FSW. He was able to determine that a few of the ones he had were not as nice as they made themselves out to be. As he has told us many will make out they want the big love with emotional profile writings but it can tend to be a bit of a hoax. I'm not saying don't go for a FSW they can still be a good choice even the younger ones but realise that there are stark realities namely that many FSW look to a guy first and foremost to provide well, and that the 'love' she gives you may not run all that deep.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2021, 04:19:36 PM by Trenchcoat »
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So great to have discussions about women rather than politics !
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Just for fun:

I'm not going to Ukraine because it is a low income country. I am going to Ukraine/Russia because the women are hot, educated, smart and refine. I can't speak for everyone but I think many men are going there for those reason and not because they can exploit women. We see enough of this in the Philippines or Thailand where culture, cuisine are vastly different between the two people. That is a situation where your $40,000 a year job can make you feel like a king.

Some guys talk about love because...maybe they actually do want love and they will improve themselves to their best selves so they can be that much more attractive.

Why go for countries where the women are on a low income? If it is not an escape. me and my girlfriend were discussing guys on here, she told me 'these guys talk about love, because they want to avoid doing what is hard, improving themselves'. Irony is talking about loving then going to a country where the income is low, it is like blinding yourself of the reality.

Women tell you what you want to hear, the reality is simple, you are going to a low income country. No sugar coating changes that, if you want love stick at home, find women using your merits you think you offer. All that happens is FSU is trading your financial power to amplify your worth.

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I hate to say this too. If you look at match.com 100 American women age 30-40 vs any Russian dating site of 100 women age 30-40 - you immediately see a difference. All the good American gals are married with 2 kids by then or instagram models.

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I'm not going to Ukraine because it is a low income country.

But your magic only works there

I am going to Ukraine/Russia because the women are hot, educated, smart and refine.

I was speaking to my gf about this today (someone born and living in ukraine, happy to stay in ukraine). She said guys that bash western women tend to have something wrong with them, because western women are great in her own words.


Edit she just came out of the room, i repeated your exact words to her now, she said 'you are going because you are an insecure piece of xxxx' . One thing you will learn about FSUW if you put down the fairy tale books is they are savage, they may not tell you to your face, but amongst their friends and family, you are the joke.

I might get her to make an account on here.

I will tell you something, she worked for a marriage agency, only did it for a few days it morally hurt her. The owner is a former escort, in her 40's, she would go on dates with the owner, translate for her, the owner would randomly say 'oh look, a bird, how cute', as this is the type of women you and most guys go for. THe 'sweethearts' that won't hurt a fly, last week the owner was laughing with my gf that she is marrying a rich western man, whilst fucking a local ukranian man. I saw these women a mile away, and in the end i was proved right, but i always have a leash on them, and know how to dodge the lion. Sadly these women feed on the deluded men, and think every western man that steps in FSU is deluded and an idiot.

Look for fairies, and you get a dream. Come back to reality.
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brother there's a lot of assumption on your part.

I've had girlfriends from Western Europe, America and China where the GDP is greater than the US. The magic is strong in this one. I'm partial to Slavic women because of my genuine interest in the history and literature and their high cheek bones.

I'm not bashing Western women but our way of life - driving all the time, large portions tends to put pounds on the average beautiful American gal.

I've been to over 60 countries around the world and I would like to have a meaningful discussion on Chekhov's the Seagull. I'd like to have some connection to a globally minded person.

can't one accept that there are other truths and one doesn't know it all before the age of 30?

Now I understand why ya'll use  :wallbash:


But your magic only works there

I was speaking to my gf about this today (someone born and living in ukraine, happy to stay in ukraine). She said guys that bash western women tend to have something wrong with them, because western women are great in her own words.


Edit she just came out of the room, i repeated your exact words to her now, she said 'you are going because you are an insecure piece of xxxx' . One thing you will learn about FSUW if you put down the fairy tale books is they are savage, they may not tell you to your face, but amongst their friends and family, you are the joke.

I might get her to make an account on here.

I will tell you something, she worked for a marriage agency, only did it for a few days it morally hurt her. The owner is a former escort, in her 40's, she would go on dates with the owner, translate for her, the owner would randomly say 'oh look, a bird, how cute', as this is the type of women you and most guys go for. THe 'sweethearts' that won't hurt a fly, last week the owner was laughing with my gf that she is marrying a rich western man, whilst fucking a local ukranian man. I saw these women a mile away, and in the end i was proved right, but i always have a leash on them, and know how to dodge the lion. Sadly these women feed on the deluded men, and think every western man that steps in FSU is deluded and an idiot.

Look for fairies, and you get a dream. Come back to reality.
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okay - we're just here for information and fun. peace.
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I'm not going to Ukraine because it is a low income country. I am going to Ukraine/Russia because the women are hot, educated, smart and refine.
Liar, liar, pants on fire.
Same hot chicks are in Sweden and Norway. 
But you and I can't touch them because no economic advantage
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Liar, liar, pants on fire.
Same hot chicks are in Sweden and Norway. 
But you and I can't touch them because no economic advantage

There are also a million local guys who are after them, AND a 40 year old
Norwegian woman may or may not want to get married. She might be perfectly
happy to have boy friends until the day she dies.

In Russia a woman can be 40 years old, look amazing and she has a very, very
low chance of getting married. It's worse if she has a child and she really, really
wants to get married.

In the FSU it's two things not just one. Financial, plus supply and demand.
If you are chasing after young women then it's one thing, if you are pursuing
older women it's two.


FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

 

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