BUSTED! I am starting to wonder.....

[Durk]

        Richard let me say I think most people in this industry do not have a clue!
Having started a business with a couple of hundred dollars twenty-five years ago, developed commercial property,engineered products,and vertically developed my
business I never had to advertise my company as "HONEST" and I would not even consider doing it. Am I rich? NO, but I sleep at night!
        This industry has many issues,but the primary one is the number of clients
out there. The main reason there are few clients is the results the industry is
providing for the men. When a professional guy spends several Gs to just show
up that really thins the herd. The agency better have their s*** together or
the guy is not comming back. You have to screen your client as well. Don't need
a reputation of half standards. Somehow daddy Ivan sitting at the US Embassy
and telling them about his daughter that got herself pregnant by one of the
agency clients just does not make anyones day.  Start doing the business
instead of marketing it. I told Kevin in another post that you really must know
your ladies,their families,friends,their school background, and much more. You
must know the guys even better! YES!! I know this is a lot of work,but necessary to get your clients results.
         I think a lot of us guys would look forward to working with an agency
that was really on the ball. The reason the clients are directed away in most cases the agency is milking the client and nothing more!
Sure sooner or later the couple has to be on their own,but the agency that
offers the service will get a reputation and guys will tell their friends about the
quality service they received.
        We did an informal audit of some of the agencies in this industry. Kevin
was included in that audit. His agency was asked to verify two profiles since
there was a difference in the information from one agency to another.He told
us he would check on it and have the office verify the information. We never
received any response from him or his office in both cases.How is a person
supposed to go forward here if there is no follow through? If you need an ex.
I can PM you with it.We did not include your agency.
       Since a lot of guys starting out on this journey are not aware of RWD I
do not think we can blame every new client. We are looking into the fraud issue
concerning the practice of some of the companies in this industry. If we could
get enough coop. from everyone we probably could get some positive results.
        Stay with it Richard I can relate to what you are going through!
                                               
                                                                                  D

[SANDRO43]

Now . . . trick question . . . what's the plural form of y'all?

Youse all ?

[Turboguy]

Depends on where you are from.  In Pittsburgh it is Younse   Just like a small stream is a crick here.   They even have a book out on Pittsburghese

[jb]

what's the plural form of y'all?

"all y'all"   

[ConnerVT]

In the South, it's "ya'alls"

[TexasBoar]

JB has it right . . . although "y'all" is actually plural itself, in that it's never properly used to refer to just one person, "all y'all" is the large group plural.

"Y'all" might be husband and wife, for example, whereas "all y'all" would be husband, wife, kids, cousins, and the wife's drunk brother. 

"Y'alls/Y'all's" is possessive, Conner, as in "where's y'all's bass boat?" 

~Boar

[Rvrwind]

quote]Youse all ? [/quote]
You really don't want that Texas Resident Card real bad now do you, LOL, cause that reply I think will get it revoked!!!
Thanks Durk, I keep on keeping on, although the frustration sometimes just gets to me. I continually see guys on this board & others who continue to use agencies they know full well are scamming them, get scammed & then come back on the board whinning about it.
We do our utmost to provide the best service we can & every one of our ladies is personally inteviewed by us. We had one lady join yesterday & Marina spent 2 hours with her, explaining the way we work, our expectations of her & what her expectations of us should be. They don't just come in, fill out a form, leave a couple of pictres & walk away. They are totally screened & if they don't meet our standards they are not permited to join our program. I will admit we had  couple get by us, it happens, but as soon as I was made aware of it, they were removed.
As for screening the men, this is more difficult, especially for us as we don't have any reps abroad, we are all here, in Russia. I do the best I can to get to know the guys that decide to come through us via emails & phone calls & when they arrive I spend time with them. I know it isn't a lot but it is way more than a lot of company's do.
I guess I'm just tired of these whinners who get ripped off because of their own stupidity coming & whinning to us after they were well informed & forewarned. If they do so then don't come back here whinning about it because IMHO they got exactly what they deserved.
Sorry if that offends anybody but I gotta call them the way I sees them.
I have one client that just left a week ago who has never posted before, just been lurkin', but promised to post his experience with us. Unfortunately he arrived home to a sad family situation & is swept up in that at present but will post when things settle down.
He was what I would class as an a-one client. Came over here for the right reasons with the right expectations & the right attitude. Not chasing arm candy & 18 year olds, like so many do & then cry when they get shot down. He knew what he wanted & went about it the right way. I & my staff found it a great pleasure to work with him & we showed him Tver hospitality, the Cowboy way & I believe he enjoyed his time with us. I'm looking forward to his take on it, good or bad, bcause even from the bad, we can learn.

[FSUrookie]

Thanks to all for he informative advice. I agree with many others on here that it is good to always post current situations, whether good or bad, even if the post repeats information or an agency that was previously discussed. I say that because, most of us, including me, do not have time to sift thru the thousands of posts on here and other message forums, though I have searched thru many of them. As for prior knowledge of the CC – WC agency, I did NOT know of the severity of what was going on there. IF I had, surely I would have approached things differently. I’ve only been on this board for recent months, so I did NOT know of much of the garbage until after the fact. As for the 1 or 2 guys on here that get all emotional about postings, take it easy and don’t stress yourself. THIS IS ABOUT HELPING OTHERS. We all make mistakes in life, myself included. We learn from those mistakes, and then hopefully move on. As for me, I am fine, no tears in my eyes, and no whine :-( with my cheese :-) . My goal in any of my posts is to inform the majority of other guys out there that are considering a trip abroad to find their dream girl. As for CC, actually I DO know of some friends that used them and did meet a girl, and were successful. So like any other SMART person, I investigated and experienced FIRST HAND what these guys were about. After all, I have always traveled on my own, with my own bookings, and I have only used the CC agency once for actual hotel package booking (my first trip). Since then, I HAVE begun to use other agencies, and IF I do meet a girl from CC or WC, I try to pull that girl out of their money-loop as quick as possible. As for girls, yes I have had regular communications with a girl who I originally met thru WC, and I have good feelings about the situation. BUT, like many guys on here have WISELY suggested, you can be sure I am going to check her out to the fullest extent. It’s only the smart thing to do considering all the women who scam these days. Anyway, thanks to “doctae” for confirming what I now know first hand to be a fact about CC and WC. AS FOR MY POSTINGS, I ONLY HAVE ONE GOAL REGARDING AGENCIES THAT ARE NOT LEGIT, AND THAT IS TO BRING THE TRUTH TO THE SURFACE SO THAT OTHERS DO NOT GET BURNED IN THE FUTURE. SIMPLE AS THAT. BOTTOM LINE, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH STUPIDITY FOR USING CC, IT IS ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS NOT RIGHT. PERIOD. AND it should be exposed for any agency that show a repeated history of wrong doing. AND someone needs to regulate these agencies. We can only inform each other of what we know to be the facts and situations that we have been in. There will always be someone that likes or hates any particular agency. Even what many call the legit agencies on this board, often receive criticism and accusations against their good agencies. That’s why it always pays to investigate any claims of right or wrong. And, I AM GLAD TO DO MY PART IN HELPING TO EDUCATE OTHERS, as well as becoming more educated and wise to the FSU dating scene. THANKS AGAIN TO ALL FOR YOUR GREAT POSTS!

[BillyB]

Ahhhhh, and is this not the same CC that owns the 'other' board & insists on one towing the party line if you wish to post there. Mmmmm, that explains why I will never post there again. Agency owner or not, the truth is the truth & if you can't handle the truth well you can aways act like an osterich  stick your head up your a$$.
CC bought out Spencer for one reason & one reason only, to promote their own agenda & damage control!! Anybody who can't see that is as blind as a bat at high noon.

Actually, it's EC(European Connections) that owns the other board, not CC.

FSUrookie, Looking for  life partner is serious business and the truth is many of us at one time or another didn't know what we should look for in a partner and learned the hard way. Searching overseas can add problems into a guy's chances to succeed, especially if he puts his trust into an agency looking to take advantage of the pocketbooks by keeping their clients from success. Then if a guy can get past bad agencies, he has to watch out for gold diggers, pro-daters, and GCG's(green card girls). If you or any newbie wants to take this path, don't short yourself with a lack of info and wisdom. Get yourself educated so you have a good chance of success. Feel free to start new threads with questions and you're sure to get helpful answers.

[beattledog]

Just take your time, use common sense, and be careful

beattledog

[Maxx2]

Thanks to all for he informative advice. I agree with many others on here that it is good to always post current situations, whether good or bad, even if the post repeats information or an agency that was previously discussed. I say that because, most of us, including me, do not have time to sift thru the thousands of posts on here and other message forums, though I have searched thru many of them. As for prior knowledge of the CC – WC agency, I did NOT know of the severity of what was going on there. IF I had, surely I would have approached things differently. I’ve only been on this board for recent months, so I did NOT know of much of the garbage until after the fact. As for the 1 or 2 guys on here that get all emotional about postings, take it easy and don’t stress yourself. THIS IS ABOUT HELPING OTHERS. We all make mistakes in life, myself included. We learn from those mistakes, and then hopefully move on. As for me, I am fine, no tears in my eyes, and no whine :-( with my cheese :-) . My goal in any of my posts is to inform the majority of other guys out there that are considering a trip abroad to find their dream girl. As for CC, actually I DO know of some friends that used them and did meet a girl, and were successful. So like any other SMART person, I investigated and experienced FIRST HAND what these guys were about. After all, I have always traveled on my own, with my own bookings, and I have only used the CC agency once for actual hotel package booking (my first trip). Since then, I HAVE begun to use other agencies, and IF I do meet a girl from CC or WC, I try to pull that girl out of their money-loop as quick as possible. As for girls, yes I have had regular communications with a girl who I originally met thru WC, and I have good feelings about the situation. BUT, like many guys on here have WISELY suggested, you can be sure I am going to check her out to the fullest extent. It’s only the smart thing to do considering all the women who scam these days. Anyway, thanks to “doctae” for confirming what I now know first hand to be a fact about CC and WC. AS FOR MY POSTINGS, I ONLY HAVE ONE GOAL REGARDING AGENCIES THAT ARE NOT LEGIT, AND THAT IS TO BRING THE TRUTH TO THE SURFACE SO THAT OTHERS DO NOT GET BURNED IN THE FUTURE. SIMPLE AS THAT. BOTTOM LINE, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH STUPIDITY FOR USING CC, IT IS ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS NOT RIGHT. PERIOD. AND it should be exposed for any agency that show a repeated history of wrong doing. AND someone needs to regulate these agencies. We can only inform each other of what we know to be the facts and situations that we have been in. There will always be someone that likes or hates any particular agency. Even what many call the legit agencies on this board, often receive criticism and accusations against their good agencies. That’s why it always pays to investigate any claims of right or wrong. And, I AM GLAD TO DO MY PART IN HELPING TO EDUCATE OTHERS, as well as becoming more educated and wise to the FSU dating scene. THANKS AGAIN TO ALL FOR YOUR GREAT POSTS!

You have a great attitude. I have found out it is tough to get through to men new to this. They are know it alls and loyal to their "women". Usually it takes a dramatic event to wake them up. Hopefully a guy reads some of the things posted here. Then gets suspicious over a red flag or two and know what to do next about this.

Maxx

[dublindevil]

RvrWind.  Could you please explain this, I am interested as I have a web site exposing CC
""CC bought out Spencer for one reason & one reason only, to promote their own agenda & damage control!! ""
Who are/were 'Spencer' ?
Thanks.

[Turboguy]

It is EC (European Connections) that bought out Spencer not CC (Confidential Connections)    Spenser was the owner of another disscussion forum. 

[Rvrwind]

It is EC (European Connections) that bought out Spencer not CC (Confidential Connections)    Spenser was the owner of another disscussion forum

I think that pretty much says it all. I confused the two company's, my bad!!

[Kuna]

RvrWind.  Could you please explain this, I am interested as I have a web site exposing CC
""CC bought out Spencer for one reason & one reason only, to promote their own agenda & damage control!! ""
Who are/were 'Spencer' ?
Thanks.

DD,

Why not post your URL here so we can all see your site?

Kuna

[dublindevil]

DD,

Why not post your URL here so we can all see your site?

Kuna

ok. thanks.
It is: www.confidentialconnections.net
Please note the NET, or you will end up on the actual CC site. 
Incidently my links on the site are not working at present. !  Had trouble with a few hosting coy's so am currently moving them. They will be up as soon as I can.