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Hello! My name is Olga, I am originally from Belarus and I have been married to my American husband since 2000 and we met in 1998. We have one 20 y.o. daughter who is studying at the university right now.

I used to participate in a forum for RW married to Americans, and some of us have became friends over the years and we even meet in person even though we live in the different states. Most of these women came to US through marriage in late 90s/early 2000s and over half of them are no longer with the American man who brought them here, most got re-married since then.

I also participated in some more male RW forums back then mostly through yahoo groups :)


I decided to join because I have a young single friend from Belarus who won a green card in a lottery 2 years ago and she came here and has a job as a QA at a local software company here in Reno, NV. She is 32, single, never married and no kids. I am kind of like a mother figure to her being in US for so long :) and she is now looking for an American man. She is pretty good looking and slender. I can share many pictures if someone is interested. She likes all sorts of outdoors: hiking, skiing, etc.

Her requirements are:
must be 40 or younger
not overweight
at least 6 feet tall
white
have a good job (even though she herself has a good job she is looking for a man who could be a provider because she would like to stay home with kids when they are small. She also likes when a man pays for going out, vacations, etc. So in a sense she has traditional roles expectations.
lives in a relatively big city. (Reno is too small for her LOL)
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Welcome to the forum!

Go here to see how many men meet her standards

http://keeper.ai/tools/calculator


Udachi !

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Oh wow! This is a great calculator!
I will be sure to show her :)
I am trying to convince her she is being too picky
Thank You so much!

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Hi Olga, welcome to our board.
Not much activity here compared to what it was like 4 or more years ago.
I have been with my Ukrainian wife for 20 years.
She has PhD and is math professor at a flagship state university here in USA.

I am too old to have any close friends less than 40 years old, so can't of any help to your female friend.

Although I always paid 100% for everything when dating, I don't think the  attitude she has will go over very well with the men 40 and under.  Particulary when she can easily pay some expenses herself.  This is the country of women's lib and equal status for men and women.

Maybe she will have to go back to the FSU to find the man she wants !  :-)
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OMG Congratulations on such a long marriage and I am very proud of Your wife!
Yes my friend's mindset is very strange for me as a professional woman, but I am thinking
this must be the newer generation of FSU women.

I am trying to argue with her and show that younger men only very rarely want to be or are able to be a sole provider,
and that if she find such a guy he will likely be very traditional and expect a woman to also play a very
traditional role. I find that many young women want a traditional men but yet not ready to be a 100% traditional woman :)

Hopefully I can change her mind soon and she can then find a nice guuy 40 or under who wants more of a partnership.
Meanwhile I told her to put her education and job into her profile.

And she doesn't like Russian/Ukranian men either I am not sure why :)
I think the stereotype is that they expect a woman to contribute financially AND do all the housework and child care.

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OMG Congratulations on such a long marriage and I am very proud of Your wife!
Yes my friend's mindset is very strange for me as a professional woman, but I am thinking
this must be the newer generation of FSU women.

I am trying to argue with her and show that younger men only very rarely want to be or are able to be a sole provider,
and that if she find such a guy he will likely be very traditional and expect a woman to also play a very
traditional role. I find that many young women want a traditional men but yet not ready to be a 100% traditional woman :)


Hopefully I can change her mind soon and she can then find a nice guuy 40 or under who wants more of a partnership.
Meanwhile I told her to put her education and job into her profile.

And she doesn't like Russian/Ukranian men either I am not sure why :)
I think the stereotype is that they expect a woman to contribute financially AND do all the housework and child care.

I think you are right in terms of a guy who is a provider or can provide so much will want a traditional woman, not necessarily exclusively though. Some people are 'career types' who live, sleep and shit their careers and it's non stop career talk. I myself prefer traditional woven even though I am not on a high salary. If a traditional woman is demanding them that can make things difficult if it amounts to a continual spend out too often. At the moment I am with a girl who is more of a career girl though her career is sidetracked for the meanwhile. Honestly while it can work and is going ok so far a woman with the whole career deal wasn't what I was aiming for. I've turned down a lot of FSW online before in messaging who were obvious career women often in their thirties with me in my forties.

It's just that the dynamics that often come with career women aren't that great for me. I prefer to lead and having a woman banging on about her career isn't the sort of focus I would like in a relationship. I would rather hear from a woman about having children, pregnancy, about the babies, children etc once we have them, days out, what we enjoy as past times etc. If I'm hearing, it's me, me, me about my career very frequently it's more something I find I need to tolerate than what I want to hear about. In general I don't really care about a woman's career it does nothing for me. I imagine that there could be a lot of men out there like me.

That's the thing, a bit like Bill's calculator link identifies effectively I think that there is the ideal world then there is reality. If we go for the ideal world too much are chances meet of meeting anyone who fits AND is into me, her, etc shrinks A LOT. So it can be a case of prioritising the necessary and the not so necessary. Some people can change over time and get more into alignment with each other but some things may remain as not ideal but just about liveable of course.

What I would say is there a cheaper area she can move to, where she could buy a cheaper property with a guy?

I'm UK so I don't know the US as well but if we take being able to borrow 5 times $150k then that's $750k, for two earning much the same $1.5m, plus any deposits. I would be guessing that would be somewhere near the maximum, so maybe a property in the $1.2m - 1.5m range as a rough average. My guess is that there is probably cheaper property around in another nearby city. She can move up the property ladder in the future, at the moment she is still fairly near the early earning years rather than the end of a lifetime if earning. Perhaps she is already unrealistically aiming for a lifetime of earning outcome. Some may achieve that but for her I think it's restricting the men available too much. As is her wanting a man with a high salary to provide while she does child bearing & rearing in the early years. The man doing some child rearing, a baby sitter, nursery, etc some other solution may be better devised to deal with that issue. Again it may not be seen as ideal but something that is workable.

I think that is the problem though with everything being jumbled up to the old set ways or a defined set way, everyone thinks differently and is in different positions and that can make it much harder to find a match. I hope this may help your friend.
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Here's an AI generated Google response to how expensive it is to buy a house in Reno,

"Reno, Nevada is considered a top city for home purchases and has a somewhat competitive housing market. In May 2024, the median sale price of a home in Reno was $580,000, up 10.9% from the previous year. The median listing price in July 2024 was $629,000, down 4% from the previous year. While Reno's home values are generally higher than other major cities, some say it's not necessarily affordable".

Depending on what level mortgage lenders use to determine the maximum level of a mortgage out there my guess would be that she might be able to buy a place on just her salary never mind two salaries combined. Two salaries combined is of course easier and a bit safer as if one loses their job then there is still some income coming in. My guess is that she is overcooking it in terms of what she is determining her other half needs as many women I think can do. I wouldn't suggest her buying a place without a guy as that could make her situation even worse, she could then expect the guy she meets to already have his own place.

One thing she might bear in mind is in a way she got very lucky, she won the Green Card lottery then came to the US and landed a good paying job. However had she not won the Green Card lottery she would still be in Belarus on a hell of a lot less money with no access to the US other than through marriage to a US guy. If that had remained the case she would then theoretically be in the inferior position and many a US guy in a superior position. How would she see what type of men are suitable then?

My guess is that she would have seen more men as suitable that she is currently turning down. So in a way her luck and success may have contributed to placing her mind in a situation where she is turning down men she would have seen as acceptable. It's why woman taking the lead or ending up in that position can be a problem in terms of them finding a life partner.
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In general I don't really care about a woman's career it does nothing for me. I imagine that there could be a lot of men out there like me.
Maybe older men past 45. Young men like my friend is looking for mostly want a woman to work that was her experience dating so far.
And they even want her to have a good job. I think what you call "career woman" is an ambitious woman whose work is the main thing in her life.
Not many men want that. They just want a woman to have a salary and contribute to expenses the more the better, because it's very hard to make it on single salary these days in US.
And of course very few women who have good jobs are career women who constantly talk about their career and put it over the family wellbeing.
I know I always made a good salary but I am not very ambitious I never wanted to move into management or move up career ladder.
I am just pretty good at what I do and in my profession if You are good You make a lot. But my husband and I never talk about work at home even though he is in the same field :)

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What I would say is there a cheaper area she can move to, where she could buy a cheaper property with a guy?

We are already in a relatively cheap area, but you need at least 600K for a house unless you want to live in a poor area with horrible schools (in which case you pay at least 450K here) Anything cheaper is an economically depressed area with no jobs or in a middle of a ghetto. Also she doesn't like to live in small towns even our town is too small for her already. And here I don't think You can borrow 5 times your salary. We did mortgage calculator and this is how we came up with 150K. In any case the mortgage payment with property taxes  on a house with current interest rates are probably going to be like 4K, so if a man makes less that 100K he will probably make 5K after taxes, he can't pay most of his take home into a mortgage! Banks don't like if Your mortgage payments are more than 1/3 of your before tax salary.

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I think it's restricting the men available too much. As is her wanting a man with a high salary to provide while she does child bearing & rearing in the early years. The man doing some child rearing, a baby sitter, nursery, etc some other solution may be better devised to deal with that issue. Again it may not be seen as ideal but something that is workable.

Yes it's very hard to find a man who can provide middle class life style just on his salary, but it's not too hard to find a man with a job similar to hers with whom they would make at least 150K together and who wants a woman to contribute financially. Again such men are not looking for "career woman", they are just looking for a woman who works and contributes. It's even possible to take time off while a child is small because money can be saved from househols income for such periods so she can stay home.
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Here's an AI generated Google response to how expensive it is to buy a house in Reno,

"Reno, Nevada is considered a top city for home purchases and has a somewhat competitive housing market. In May 2024, the median sale price of a home in Reno was $580,000, up 10.9% from the previous year. The median listing price in July 2024 was $629,000, down 4% from the previous year. While Reno's home values are generally higher than other major cities, some say it's not necessarily affordable".
notice this is a median price of a HOME not a HOUSE. A home can be a 1 bedroom condo which is included in this stats

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My guess is that she would have seen more men as suitable that she is currently turning down. So in a way her luck and success may have contributed to placing her mind in a situation where she is turning down men she would have seen as acceptable. It's why woman taking the lead or ending up in that position can be a problem in terms of them finding a life partner.

Well yes if she was still in Belarus she would have been more accepting, because part of the equation would be the green card a man can provide.
But then You can't believe how many FSU women I know who settled for a guy not making a lot in US and then on arriving here realized they can't afford anything on his salary and his house or rental is trashy by her standards. I have seen many divorces because of this very reason!
So the fact that from over there she doesn't understand his socially-economic status in US is a drawback not an advantage IMHO. It's much better she doesn't pick a lower income man to begin with than later break his heart after he spent money and energy on bringing her here.

What men don't realize is that Russia, Ukraine, Belarus also have a lot of men who can't provide a comfortable lifestyle and women loo
king for westerners reject these FSU men. So yes a woman is disappointed once she figures out she married a western version of such a man!

For example I know a woman who married a man 30 years her senior because this man presented an image of a well to do guy. Meanwhile she worked with a lot of russian single men in her profession. So I asked her why not marry such a russian guy her age? And she said she wanted an american upper middle class lifestyle with a house in a suburb. Well she ended up divoorcing her husband who turned out to be a loser. Meawhile many of her RM peers got a job in the west and are doing very well financially. Anyways she later found an american her age who does well financially when she was 38, and she herself now also has an amazing job.

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I'm sure your Amerikanski moosh, has stories to tell you of life "when he was a kid"
back in the period of time when most American women stayed home while their husbands all worked a 40 hour per week job in some factory (that was later closed and shipped to China)

when I was a little malchick
a working class house cost between $10,000 to $20,000, and an engineer's salary was over $20,000 /yr
the garment district in Manhattan had 250,000 women making clothes, before all their jobs moved to Asia

what does this mean?
it means, Boomers had it easy, and that's why THEY have all the money
every generation after boomers will be poorer than the one before them
and that's WHY she will have to get up off her jhoppa and be a robotnik just like everybody else...
because bottom line, when dewds look at AI porn all day, and then look at her, they're just gonna shrug their shoulders...ponelle?
so the probability of her ending up with someone in the top 1% income bracket is VERY LOW

if I were in her shoes...
I'd focus on "optimizing" my choice rather than hoping for a statistically impossible outcome
this is like one of them multi-variable optimization problems I learned from an old Russian Linear Algebra book
don't they teach you Russians stuff like that anymore?

ever since the collapse of the Soviet Union the place has just gone to hell....


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I'm sure your Amerikanski moosh, has stories to tell you of life "when he was a kid"
back in the period of time when most American women stayed home while their husbands all worked a 40 hour per week job in some factory

yes back then it was possible with a man having just a regular job.

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when I was a little malchick
a working class house cost between $10,000 to $20,000, and an engineer's salary was over $20,000 /yr
the garment district in Manhattan had 250,000 women making clothes, before all their jobs moved to Asia

Yes since then salaries have grown slower than house prices!

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what does this mean?
it means, Boomers had it easy, and that's why THEY have all the money
every generation after boomers will be poorer than the one before them
and that's WHY she will have to get up off her jhoppa and be a robotnik just like everybody else...
because bottom line, when dewds look at AI porn all day, and then look at her, they're just gonna shrug their shoulders...ponelle?

totally agree!

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you're SMART!!!
I LIKE YOU!!!!




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you're SMART!!!
I LIKE YOU!!!!

Thank You! It's mutual :)
I like Your sense of humor

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I'm sure your Amerikanski moosh, has stories to tell you of life "when he was a kid"
back in the period of time when most American women stayed home while their husbands all worked a 40 hour per week job in some factory (that was later closed and shipped to China)

when I was a little malchick
a working class house cost between $10,000 to $20,000, and an engineer's salary was over $20,000 /yr
the garment district in Manhattan had 250,000 women making clothes, before all their jobs moved to Asia

what does this mean?
it means, Boomers had it easy, and that's why THEY have all the money
every generation after boomers will be poorer than the one before them
and that's WHY she will have to get up off her jhoppa and be a robotnik just like everybody else...
because bottom line, when dewds look at AI porn all day, and then look at her, they're just gonna shrug their shoulders...ponelle?
so the probability of her ending up with someone in the top 1% income bracket is VERY LOW

That's the problem, a lig of western countries particularly thd US and the UK have made their house prices boom over the last 20 years or so by keeping the population high. If house prices are high then that gives money that can be drawn upon. If there is a big population then it helps keep wages low, boosts industry and the economy, hence immigration to bring this about.

However,bits not all good news, housing gets more expensive, wages lower in comparison to buy these houses with. So less babies are born so more immigration is needed to sustain this economic model. If it isn't then relative catastrophe strikes, house prices fall away rapidly, big negative equity strikes and one hell of an economic mess, a real bind to get into.

High end IT is a pretty good area to get into if you can. A lot of other people are going to struggle. Either having to move into poorer areas or having less of a life to enjoy potentially. Only upside is when the Baby Boomer generation pass on some will inherit that will make more possible. However, for some they may be too old themselves for it to have much impact on their lives. Overall the situation doesn't lend itself to many having a great life but for many having cramped accommodation, in not great areas and having to work a lot for low money.
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Trench me lad...
If I were you...
I'd go find a Ukrainian oriented charity, surely there must be one in the Midlands somewhere, Birmingham, maybe?

and learn how to do "fund raisers"
raise some funds and then go rescue poor old lonely babooshka in Ukraine

and, while overthere...
adopt a cat who always rides along with you to deliver aid and good cheer to babooshkie

have a Youtube channel that you monetize, have merchandise to "support de cause"
meanwhile...
since you must be hornier than 2-peckered BillyGoat...
you can schlep pretty much any Ukrainian girl slower than you that you can catch during your travels there
somebody like you would be able to do whatever TF you want to over there

you ONLY have ONE LIFE to live Trench
why not live it to it's fullest
instead of the same ole, same ole, Yorksire Puddin (which ain't EVEN Pudding, and Sainsbury Frozen Meat Pies)
you could be sitting next to the campfire at night with your trusted feline companion, watching the Russian shells burst o'er the horizon and you could be "live feeding" this to youtube for a gazillion hits

ah, the roar of the camp fire, baked beans and grilled sausages, a pint of Guiness watchin artillery flashes
it'd be like freakin Tolstoy dawg!!!
but with video instead of slovo

you'd be an "influencer" instead of an "influencee"
change yur life

vios con dios moy amigo
and god will shield you from Russkie Pooskie
but you're gonna have to sacrifice the cat at some point, just for a ratings "bump"
so don't get "too attached" to it, know what I'm sayin'?
you can always fake the tears, after the cat "gets killed by Russians"

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notice this is a median price of a HOME not a HOUSE. A home can be a 1 bedroom condo which is included in this stats

Well yes if she was still in Belarus she would have been more accepting, because part of the equation would be the green card a man can provide.
But then You can't believe how many FSU women I know who settled for a guy not making a lot in US and then on arriving here realized they can't afford anything on his salary and his house or rental is trashy by her standards. I have seen many divorces because of this very reason!
So the fact that from over there she doesn't understand his socially-economic status in US is a drawback not an advantage IMHO. It's much better she doesn't pick a lower income man to begin with than later break his heart after he spent money and energy on bringing her here.

What men don't realize is that Russia, Ukraine, Belarus also have a lot of men who can't provide a comfortable lifestyle and women looking for westerners reject these FSU men. So yes a woman is disappointed once she figures out she married a western version of such a man!

For example I know a woman who married a man 30 years her senior because this man presented an image of a well to do guy. Meanwhile she worked with a lot of russian single men in her profession. So I asked her why not marry such a russian guy her age? And she said she wanted an american upper middle class lifestyle with a house in a suburb. Well she ended up divorcing her husband who turned out to be a loser. Meanwhile many of her RM peers got a job in the west and are doing very well financially. Anyways she later found an american her age who does well financially when she was 38, and she herself now also has an amazing job.

It can be pretty difficult to make the bar in the West. If the guy doesn't excell in maths/IT then there aren't that many fields that are that lucrative anymore. Most other things most people with a bit of learning and dedication to the subject can master, maths is a lot, lot harder to most. Time over again if I had realised the score I would have spent more time & effort pursuing maths/IT. While it might sound a bit male chauvinist the pure logic of it is the more people in the workplace whether extra females, immigrants, etc the less pay as after all no Employer is going to pay high wages if his reception area is full of applicants.

Myself I come from a fairly Middle Class area with a small degree of wealth myself and in the family in general, though really I am from a working class family background, we just happened to move into an area that became increasingly Middle Class/wealthier over time. Yet even from this fairly well off background it has not been at all easy for me dating in the West. Females in the West tend to have a very high minded outlook for what they want. In general like your friend, basically too much and not just on how wealthy. When I was younger, in my late teens & early twenties my Father used to say that he couldn't understand it why there weren't girls queuing up outside to get with me. Well I don't think he was talking the pee lol, I thought at the time he was casually heating, but he used to say it quite frequently and I think he probably was for real. The thing is, is that times had changed between my generation (1990s) and his (1960s). If things had remained as they were in his generation I probably would have had girls wanting to visit in on me. I lived in a fairly sizeable house (not big but reasonable size) in a generally good area where house prices were on the move up (house was fully paid up for). I was 6ft tall with a slim to average build, a full head of hair and achieved qualifications, so not dumb. If things had been the same way they were in his time I would likely be seen as a good prospect for local girls. Things had changed however, girls were now in competition with the guys, in School, College and in the Workplace. Only guys right at the top in some way garnered much attention. My social skills were not the best, not necessarily the worst but not the best so I kept falling out of the frame with attractive enough local girls. That's the big issue for me and many guys in the West, sure I could get a girl but one that would be so low down that the equation just wouldn't be fair upon me or one that I would want.

Fast forward to my present FSW, well we get on well enough usually but not without the occasional argument as many couples have. My own house is small but larger per square meter than most FSU apartments on a Google check of internal space. She finds it small, but I guess that's probably what you were saying about FSW having a vision of what they can get with a guy in the US/UK. It's not bad for the UK, where the housing market is very competitive and house prices very high in general but FSW are kind of stuck with their vision that usually won't line up, certainly unlikely to do so in the UK.

But now of course things are different in Ukraine & Russia, many men lost in both countries, the economy increasingly becoming a mess in both countries, so less opportunity than ever for FSW to turn to their native men. Myself, I could buy a large new build flat in the centre of Kyiv, probably even Minsk, right near the top social strata of society and no doubt be viewed very favourably by women there, whereas one plane journey over here and they might see the scene as so, so compared to their preconceived vision.
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NO MONEY!!!!
NO HONEY!!!!

if M = 0 then H = 0

what's hard to understand here????

there's 1,000 ways to make money
they ALL require EFFORT and THINKING!!!

therefor...
all these things will REMAIN OUTSIDE your experience
cuz you a LAZY WHIE BOY

slack, and kicking back, and "chillin" is what you value the most in life
you'd be happy, if you weren't so DAMNED HORNY, amiright?
and this is what has disrupted your little bubble you dwell in

for the sake of having the most comfortable life, you've painted yourself into a corner
with no way out

fortune favors the bold...
not the comfort seekers
you are the captin of your soul
and you let the ship run aground
cuz navigating is hard

redemption, does not "come cheap"
but if you don't find redemption, you will ALWAYS pay a much heavier price of self-damnation
you fail to see...
how you yourself created your own self damnation
by always followin the path of "least resistance" which invariably led to a "lesser outcome"

I'm sorry...
but I'm afraid that's all we have time for today Trench...
see you again next week, and I hope to see some progress....

Margaret, send in the next patient...

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NO MONEY!!!!
NO HONEY!!!!

if M = 0 then H = 0

what's hard to understand here????

yes exactly! And while FSU women might seem like they have lower standards than western women while they are still in FSU,
trust me, after a couple of years here their standards (maybe not for looks/age) but for living style a man can provide will become much higher. Either that or they were already high and the woman simply thought a western man must be well to do.

I would hope that men are looking in FSU because women are more feminine and take care of their appearance more,
NOT because they want less than western women when it comes to living standard.
Wanting less is NOT a part of FSU culture at all! As You can see my friend from the same culture and very recent immigrant has
standards not lower than any AW her age.

In my experience things work out well when the western man is on a good financial standing by western standards and just wants a woman a little out of his league in age/appearance or just likes a more feminine woman.
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beauty(time) is a dimishing function
every day she's single, it drops

this means her chances only get worse over time
and also the older she gets the fewer available pool of men will also decrease her chances
yes, she can TRY to sell her old dacha for 10 million dollars
but later she'll have to take $5,000 and be happy

i've seen gazillions of women behave the exact same way
they either become cat ladies, or have multiple divorces after they "marry down"
woe to the man who marries someone like this
100% guaranteed they'll take everything they worked for their entire life and hand it to her and her lawyers
I've seen SO MANY guys destroyed this way by this kind of designing woman

this is why I married "a Ukrainian village girl" they just wanna cook kartoshkie and borscht, no devious plots


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This is very true this is why I think if you want a traditional woman role, you need to compromize on age/looks of a man, and especially age in our economic reality.

woman's worth is diminishing with her age while a good provider's worth is usually only increasing with time.
This is why many of them seek out even younger women as they get wealthy.

With an older man you are likely to always be young in his eyes, while your peer when he hits middle age crisis will have a lot of interest from 20+ year old. Just fact of life.

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this is why I married "a Ukrainian village girl" they just wanna cook kartoshkie and borscht, no devious plots

Yes but I am sure you can provide her with a decent (by western standards) life

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Krim the UK is VERY competitive if you're not a top level IT guy or similar level. Sure you can chance it by chucking in your job and trying some sort of business venture, but business ventures are competitive in the UK. If your finances are not on ab eden keel going into a business venture and you've chuck in your own means of income, your job, you could flat on your face and hard. Sure there is the benefit system and hope of finding another job, but if your financial situation deteriorates badly enough that your house is on the line, that's not a good place to be, you'll be worse if than before.

Progression is possible but it often needs careful planning to avoid gambling and risk seeing a disaster unfold before your eyes. Soon I should be at a point where I can progress.
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Yes I know :( It's pretty hard to make money these days.
This is why young men are now seeking wives who also make some money.
But men your age by now ususally have made a good life for themselves unless they have lost everything in a divorce.

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Privet Olga!  :welcome:


Like your Belorussian friend, I also immigrated to Canada by myself, hoping that my skills would earn me a better life here, both professionally and personally.


Is your friend dating in the U.S.? How is her experience been so far, any prospects?


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privetiki :)
She is dating but has hard time finding a man which meets all the requirements I listed here.
The main problem is that she wants a 6 ft tall white good looking guy who can take care of her and pay for stuff.
I have worked in IT all my life till I retired at 51 so from my persective with her job she could contribute to household financially and doesn't need a guy who makes as much as she wants.
How about You? Are You dating? Do you also have pretty high requirements?
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