Do Ukrainian Students get more Sex at University than in the West?

[Trenchcoat]

I mean in general if you're one of the popular crowd in the West you can plenty of sex at University but for most University Students in the West it's an arid desert and most guys find the chicks pretty frigid even the everyday looking ones.

So how about in Ukraine (or Russia even) are the Student Girls a bit more at ease and less upright than Western Student Girls?

My guess would be as there are less of the Western Values that the girls there would be more eager to get it on with a dude. However I have little knowledge of the scene there itself.

[olgac]

Wait I thought Western Values was all about women being promiscuous and the FSU women are more traditional? 

[Trenchcoat]

Wait I thought Western Values was all about women being promiscuous and the FSU women are more traditional? 

Western Women may flaunt it more but they usually aren't at all promiscuous, only a few are and then only with a small percentage of men, often the pretty boys, etc. More often Western Women are Feminists and are often against everyday men and not at all open to mens advances. Often Western Women are in competition with Men.

I can only assume the Environment is less hostile in Ukrainian Universities?

[krimster2]

when ALL of your assumptions are incorrect, so is your conclusion

if you only took 10% of the time you spent on thinking nonsensical random ideas
into "fixing yourself" instead....

but NO....
mustn't DO THAT.....

anything BUT that!!!

becuz you have a stubborn attachment to a life of "slack"
yur a "slacker"
 
how can you have a "girlfriend" in the UK
and NOT take her on the Chunnel to Paris and buy clothes????

HOW?
are slacker girlfriends low maintenence?
comatose?

try becoming a female prisoner pen-pal and write her erotic love letters full of violent imagery to stoke her libido...
i'm sure nothin bad could happen that you couldn't handle mate

what type of Dominatrix do you prefer?

I fancy the ones with European accents the most...
it makes them sound more harsh
and I want to please them

[ML]

When I was a university student, I was already married with a child, so I wasn't trying to have sex with female students . . . but I do know that adult FSUW are much more likely to have sex quickly into a relationship compared to USA women.

My sample was of women aged 35 -50.

Several of the 150 or so FSUW I dated (not just tea and cake) mentioned they hadn't had sex (with another person) in several months or even years.  I don't think they had any reason to lie about this.

I think this was a major factor why they were ready for quick sex.

Why had they gone so long without sex ?

Their explanation was the lack of men who were desireable candidates for sex or even lack of men who could obtain erections and perform sex acts.  This was attributable to alcholism, drug addiction, depression, and just overall poor health related to no jobs, no job prospects,  etc.

During the terrible times of 1990s and early 2000s, women fared better than men because the women tried harder than men.  Even highly educated women started cleaning houses, started vegetable gardens, became sellers in the underground stations, took courses in computers and did many other things to survive and take care of their  children.

Meanwhile the men took to the bottle and needle.

[ML]

I mean in general if you're one of the popular crowd in the West you can plenty of sex at University but for most University Students in the West it's an arid desert and most guys find the chicks pretty frigid even the everyday looking ones.

It is my understanding that among university students and the general population of young folks who attend bars, nightclubs, etc. is that Trench is right.

In those environments the females control and sexual activity is much like occurs in the animal world.  i.e. 10% or so of the males are getting 90% or so of the sex.  With caution abandoned and no real plans to find a mate for a LTR, the females choose as they did in the cave ages.  e.g. choose a partner who is strong, appears protective, can bring home the food, and can care for the children (even as the females are not consciously thinking of these things.)

[krimster2]

you get used to your LOCAL level of sexual attractivenes and what the possibilities are
aka "Reality"
so when ya see a super model you don't even bother approaching her
cuz "ya know"
BUT...
different story in Ukraine...
cuz yur level of sexual attractivenes  is higher there!!!!
YOU CAN hit on the good looking women!!!
if fact, you'd be a damned fool if ya didn't

you're an "exotic"
someone colorful in a dull gray world
use this...

Russian guys don't do "oral"
this is another thing to use to yur advantage as well
your tongue can be "God's Gift to a woman"
you don't need no stick with this carrot

ya gotta learn how to properly manage a Russian woman
to keep her tame, so she doesn't become a danger to yourself or to others...

[ML]

BUT...different story in Ukraine...
cuz yur level of sexual attractivenes  is higher there!!!!
YOU CAN hit on the good looking women!!!
if fact, you'd be a damned fool if ya didn't

This relates to a couple of points I have repeated here over the years.

1) A western man can use his economic advantage to attract and keep FSUW who are of a higher grade (on any of several variables) than the man can attract and keep in his home country.
(Side note:  Those same higher grade women exist in your home country, but you can't attract them because they have economics equal to or nearly so of your situation).

2) In  the past here when we had a hundred times more  men here actively looking . . . there was a lot of talk how the men must adapt to the search and dating norms in the FSU.

I always said . . . that is B.S.  There are far more women available to western men in the FSU than there are western men looking in the FSU  . . .  especially when we add the requirement that the men are actually ready and able financially and have time off from work to travel to the FSU.

So it is the FSUW who have to adapt to the western men . . . not vice versa.
Basic supply and demand.

Doesn't mean the men should be a$$holes and treat the women poorly.
Just no need to kowtow to them.

I treated all the women I met very courteously during a meeting, even where they were bitches or witches . . . of course I ended such meetings as soon as I could graciously do so.

[ML]

Russian guys don't do "oral"

That is not true.

And on a related note:  3 FSUW 'taught' me something new regarding sex; they had FSUM as previous partners, so . . .

[Trenchcoat]

Yeah thanks guys, I think as a foreign guy going to a university in Ukraine there is probably the potential to get a little more sex than as a student in the West. If a Ukrainian student girl landed a western student guy in a Ukrainian University it would probably be a good deal for her. I'm not going to do that though as I'm sorted for a girl and a bit on the old side for all of that, I was just wondering.

For native Ukrainians my guess is for many male students they are possibly still more likely than their male counterparts to get laid. My guess is that female Ukrainian students would see them as better of the bunch than most of the local guys who didn't go to university so would probably see that they are better off with them.

[krimster2]

if yur the new guv'ner
can I haz a bauxite mining permit?
how much?

[2tallbill]

I mean in general if you're one of the popular crowd in the West you can plenty of sex at University but for most University Students in the West it's an arid desert and most guys find the chicks pretty frigid even the everyday looking ones.

So how about in Ukraine (or Russia even) are the Student Girls a bit more at ease and less upright than Western Student Girls?

Asking about how much sex happens at Universities these days in the West vs the FSU to a bunch
of men who haven't been in School for several decades, then commenting on what you think about
it is a pretty silly undertaking.

We don't know, you don't know, it doesn't matter since none of us will be having sex with a University
student. I don't know if they do studies on such things and I sure as heck am not going to try to use
my computer to find out. My wife knows where I sleep.

[Boethius]

My kids are university age or recently graduated. Sex is very prevalent on campus. I doubt there’s a discernible difference.

[olgac]

Our daughter is at the university studying Computer Science so lots of young men in her classes.
not sure how prevalent sex is, but she is not having sex and she is already 20.
She lives with us at home though.
She tells me everything so I know

[Trenchcoat]

Asking about how much sex happens at Universities these days in the West vs the FSU to a bunch
of men who haven't been in School for several decades, then commenting on what you think about
it is a pretty silly undertaking.

We don't know, you don't know, it doesn't matter since none of us will be having sex with a University
student. I don't know if they do studies on such things and I sure as heck am not going to try to use
my computer to find out. My wife knows where I sleep.

Well we can sure as hell try! Why don't a load of us old foggies on here get together, travel to Ukraine and turn up in some lecture theatre kind of randomly over there and ask if any student girls would like to get it on with us

[olgac]

Well we can sure as hell try! Why don't a load of us old foggies on here get together, travel to Ukraine and turn up in some lecture theatre kind of randomly over there and ask if any student girls would like to get it on with us

If You think Ukrainian girls are just itching to "get it on" with men 25+ years older than them You are gravely mistaken!
Most UW will only have sex with such men in a hope to find a better life not just for fun. This seems like a pipe dream. Sorry

Here in US too some beautiful college girls will have sex with an older man if he is well to do and behaves like a sugar daddy. My daughter knows an american girl who is 21, blonde, blue eyes and very fit and she is being spoiled and is living with a 40 year old guy whom she met at the gym. The guy has a nice house where she lives and he is basically a gym rat like her so he is in great shape.

[krimster2]

what is this thing you speak of "SEX"????
I always put "M" on the form...
why is it imprtant?


I did ask, to see a girl's "pee pee" one time...
she didn't have one, someone cut it off
and that scared the hell out of me, it was such a shock and surprise!!!!
WTF??
I pretended like I didn't notice anything unusual

[Trenchcoat]

If You think Ukrainian girls are just itching to "get it on" with men 25+ years older than them You are gravely mistaken!
Most UW will only have sex with such men in a hope to find a better life not just for fun. This seems like a pipe dream. Sorry

Here in US too some beautiful college girls will have sex with an older man if he is well to do and behaves like a sugar daddy. My daughter knows an american girl who is 21, blonde, blue eyes and very fit and she is being spoiled and is living with a 40 year old guy whom she met at the gym. The guy has a nice house where she lives and he is basically a gym rat like her so he is in great shape.

I was joking, I wasn't being serious, at least not for myself.

However, the way things are going in Ukraine quite possibly a much older guy could be a good deal for a young University girl in times to come. There will.be a shortage of men in Ukraine and the economy will likely be in a bad way, so a western guy with a US or UK, etc passport could be seen as gold dust by some Ukrainian women.

My would be that for most Ukrainian chicks getting with a Western man would be high status in Ukraine and a good find in most cases?

[2tallbill]

Well we can sure as hell try! Why don't a load of us old foggies on here get together, travel to Ukraine and turn up in some lecture theatre kind of randomly over there and ask if any student girls would like to get it on with us

Try? They go to College/University at age 16. With an underage teenage girl? +90% of them
live at home. 100% of the parents will think you're a weirdo. In the FSU the father and brother(s)
might beat you half to death with clubs. The police will not feel sorry for you or give a crap about
your injuries. I have seen fights in the FSU, it's not a gentlemanly one on one Marquis of
Queensbury affair. What's next Trench's home for wayward girls? Think about all the
threesomes you could have in your remodeled home once it's finished in 2029.

Trench, you have a far better chance going after the English teacher(s) I have dated many. The
teachers have a far greater interest in the language and possibly even you. Many of the students
take English because it's required to graduate. OR go over there to volunteer bringing meals to
Babushka's like Krimster said.

As for loading up all the fogey's here, going to Ukraine we are all married. Who is going to talk to
the girls for you? Many of these girls will have boy friends, then go back read about the beat down
part again.

You aren't going to do any of this, this is a sex fantasy that you are posting on a find a wife/get
married forum.
 

[krimster2]

the cost of the pursuit of slack
is you give up EVERYTHING ELSE

this leads to a lack of money
the lack of money is the root of Trench's INCELism
and that's caused by laziness and inability to do difficult things

all you young dewds out there, instead of investing time chasing Pooty Tang
invest it in yurself to make more $$$$
money is a great lubricant to fix problems of friction to make things run smoother

in Russia/Ukraine, buy a 40' boat and keep at a guarded marina
you will NEVER have to worry about finding girlfriends

unfortunately, Trench doesn't have that option, and instead will have to swim naked, and show off his leetle pink English genitalia
which face it, will be of NO help to him, because it's too small to be seen by the naked eye, especially with the well documented phenomenon of "shrinkage"

[2tallbill]

the cost of the pursuit of slack
is you give up EVERYTHING ELSE

this leads to a lack of money

+100!

Solid Gold advice

[Trenchcoat]

the cost of the pursuit of slack
is you give up EVERYTHING ELSE

this leads to a lack of money
the lack of money is the root of Trench's INCELism
and that's caused by laziness and inability to do difficult things

all you young dewds out there, instead of investing time chasing Pooty Tang
invest it in yurself to make more $$$$
money is a great lubricant to fix problems of friction to make things run smoother

in Russia/Ukraine, buy a 40' boat and keep at a guarded marina
you will NEVER have to worry about finding girlfriends

unfortunately, Trench doesn't have that option, and instead will have to swim naked, and show off his leetle pink English genitalia
which face it, will be of NO help to him, because it's too small to be seen by the naked eye, especially with the well documented phenomenon of "shrinkage"

Andrew Tate gives the same advice

[Trenchcoat]

Try? They go to College/University at age 16. With an underage teenage girl? +90% of them
live at home. 100% of the parents will think you're a weirdo. In the FSU the father and brother(s)
might beat you half to death with clubs. The police will not feel sorry for you or give a crap about
your injuries. I have seen fights in the FSU, it's not a gentlemanly one on one Marquis of
Queensbury affair. What's next Trench's home for wayward girls? Think about all the
threesomes you could have in your remodeled home once it's finished in 2029.

Trench, you have a far better chance going after the English teacher(s) I have dated many. The
teachers have a far greater interest in the language and possibly even you. Many of the students
take English because it's required to graduate. OR go over there to volunteer bringing meals to
Babushka's like Krimster said.

As for loading up all the fogey's here, going to Ukraine we are all married. Who is going to talk to
the girls for you? Many of these girls will have boy friends, then go back read about the beat down
part again.

You aren't going to do any of this, this is a sex fantasy that you are posting on a find a wife/get
married forum.

You mean no boxing like this!



Surely not!!!

Lol you make me laugh Beel, well some if the girls might have boyfriends some may not. Probably not as bad as it is over here where every even everyday looking girl seems to have a boyfriend. Possibly the war might have decreased the degree of the problem of oversupply of boyfriends over there.

Well I'm just joking about us going over there. I'm not looking for myself as I'm sorted in that regards at the moment. I'm just interested to know how things are over there and how my experience over there might have differed if I went to University there back in the day in my early to mid twenties.

[krimster2]

where I differ from Tate, he indulges his ego
I starve mine

my ego makes mistakes like his does
but I never do

BEEL is tryin to use some of that "behavior modification" on me, by giving me a "reward"
so I don't spill my bottle of Marx all over his Christian Nationalism

I smoke Marx and get high as a kite off of some that sweet Das Capitale

i'd hit that holmes in the face with my hand-held XXX Capsaicin spray
then take the cover off of my snake venom ring and stab him in the cheek with it and then walk out the bar
Holmes collapses and dies a couple of hours later
nobody knows how it happened, and I'm on the boat to France with a new identity as an Italian violin player

[2tallbill]

BEEL is tryin to use some of that "behavior modification" on me, by giving me a "reward"
so I don't spill my bottle of Marx all over his Christian Nationalism

If you say something that is solid gold, it's worth pointing out for the newbies/lurkers since
you post so much unhinged, unrelated flotsam and jetsam that some people might just ignore
your posts altogether. I am not of the opinion that your behavior is modifiable. I am just calling
balls and strikes as I see them.

I have the ability of distilling your 400 words of drivel into a quote of 20 words so that people
don't have to read the pablum to get to the good stuff that you post. You apparently don't know
how to work the quote feature.