Could this become a common sight in Russia & Ukraine in the future?

[Trenchcoat]

With the number of men becoming less in both countries due to losses in war and the economy of both countries becoming increasingly bad could young FSW start getting with very old men as a solution to the problem of not enough decent single young men?

Will we in future see some young FSW sexually riding some old guy of retirement age in these countries to get what she wants?

[olgac]

LOL on  the painting the woman doesn’t look like she wants to “ride him to get what she wants” at all! She is miserable. This is supposed to be a very depressing sight showing the ills of the society. The young girl is forced to marry him by her family and sex is not even one of the reasons.

I don’t think any young woman would ever want a much older man purely for sex. She wants him either as papik who pays for a lavish lifestyle or to marry and get a lavish lifestyle and get his money after he dies. For sex there are always men available this has never been the problem, there are married men.

[2tallbill]

Will we in future see some young FSW sexually riding some old guy of retirement age in
these countries to get what she wants?

Doubtful, the poor old sods usually crack open their wallets before any rides take place.
Desperate old men don't really get the young girls, they only fantasize about it. So I
doubt it will work for most older men. Most will get a quick trip to the cleaners.
If you stay reasonable, you can get an excellent good-girl. I know you think
you want something else, but you are playing with dynamite in the dark
with only candles for light.

I see older Russian men with a young mistress from time to time, but I think it's a very
expensive endeavor, not suitable for Walmart greeters.

 

[Trenchcoat]

I see older Russian men with a young mistress from time to time, but I think it's a very
expensive endeavor, not suitable for Walmart greeters.

Lol, I assure you I'm one rung up from that Beel

Seriously though that's my next topic, 'Can a guy at the bottom of the social status world in the West managed to get a girl in the FSU'?

I don't mean it in a derogatory way though, I personally don't view anyone doing one job as any less than another job, but I know many women may do and others in society.

In terms of a guy on low pay, maybe even unemployed, can this challenge be met by them to score a woman from the FSU?

That I think would be an interesting one. Now I'm not exactly in what women would regard as a high status job, but I have a property and some money behind me and come from a reasonably wealthy area. So I'm not exactly starting at ground zero in terms of having something to work with.

I used to know a guy who worked in a newsagents, rented a place, no real money behind him, didn't have a car or know how to, never really had a girlfriend and was getting towards his thirties. He was also short, a little overweight but had a full crop of hair. He was a nice enough guy, used to talk to me a bit and I guess on the upside could talk to people ok and initiate conversation. That said I wouldn't say he was better than average socially.

So a guy like that perhaps. He's not been dealt much of a good hand in life, not in terms of a lot of stuff to work with. Could he come good for a woman in the FSU though? Bearing in mind that not all of those wanting a western man on Fdate are necessarily all that good looking, a few are but most women on there are everyday looking or possibly less so. Could such a guy score with one of those less frequented women perhaps?

[olgac]

Seriously though that's my next topic, 'Can a guy at the bottom of the social status world in the West managed to get a girl in the FSU'?

Do you mean get or do you mean keep? I think You are confusing the issue especially when You keep saying "score".
If buy score You mean get a woman to have sex with him, then probably yes because the FSU woman has no idea
what his status is and she is hoping to marry. Most likely she will not have sex with him just for fun
but with the expectation that he will improve her life financially.

But can he keep a woman out of his league long term? In my experience: most probably no.

[2tallbill]

Lol, I assure you I'm one rung up from that Beel

Seriously though that's my next topic, 'Can a guy at the bottom of the social status world in the West managed to get a girl in the FSU'?

There are three things involved here.
1. Occupational status
2. Income
2. Potential for improvement

You are definitely higher on social status but the same income as an American Walmart Greeter.
Bill's opinion.

1. A store greeter can definitely get a hair dresser or kiosk girl, but probably not a mathematics
professor An architect can get either occupation based on social status but likely neither one
based on sub $30K income.

2. A sub $30K income can't get a gal who wants kids.

3. Regardless of occupation if you are satisfied with living on the dole and not improving your lot in life.
Most serious girls will move on to greener pastures.

Women put a lot of faith in the potential category. They will hitch their wagon to a guy with potential
If they don't see potential then they will move on like you are milk 4 weeks past the due date.

[olgac]

I think a potential only plays a role when a man is young: 35 or younger
There is a saying in Russian:
"В 40 лет денег нет и не будет."⁠⁠
meaning if by 40 you have no money then You will never have money

[2tallbill]

I think a potential only plays a role when a man is young: 35 or younger
There is a saying in Russian:
"В 40 лет денег нет и не будет."⁠⁠
meaning if by 40 you have no money then You will never have money

This is America

I know guys who made millions, lost it all and started over to do it again.
I know malcontents who think everyone who makes more than them is lucky
(or crooked) and they believe the world is stacked against them.

The second guy should be treated like poison.

[olgac]

Yes this is true! In US one can totally make it from nothing even late in life with enough hard work.
But I don't think women still in FSU realize it, so they don't really see a potential if a 40+ year old man is poor.

[2tallbill]

Yes this is true! In US one can totally make it from nothing even late in life with enough hard work.
But I don't think women still in FSU realize it, so they don't really see a potential if a 40+ year old man is poor.

If you are actually poor, then you should leave the poor girls alone. Build up some money, because if you
actually find an excellent woman, you are going to be spending money way too fast for a poor man.
You need to fly to see her (and her to visit you). Paperwork, a wedding, a new bed, she is going to
remodel your house and garden. There will be another car, driving lessons, English lessons, dental
and bumps to the hopefully used car. Additional insurance, USCIS, paperwork expenses and it
goes on and on.

Poor men can't afford an FSUW and shouldn't be bothering them.

[olgac]

But yet many poor men do bring FSUW here! I know so many stories of guys acting all generous,
taking her on vacations to woo her, buying expensive gifts. Then she comes here to realize
he has a 50K or even 100K credit card debt she needs to start helping him pay off because he isn't even making enough to survive.
Needless to say the woman is usually gone as soon as she can.

[2tallbill]

But yet many poor men do bring FSUW here! I know so many stories of guys acting all generous,
taking her on vacations to woo her, buying expensive gifts. Then she comes here to realize
he has a 50K or even 100K credit card debt she needs to start helping him pay off because he isn't even making enough to survive.
Needless to say the woman is usually gone as soon as she can.

That is a recipe for failure.

[Trenchcoat]

But yet many poor men do bring FSUW here! I know so many stories of guys acting all generous,
taking her on vacations to woo her, buying expensive gifts. Then she comes here to realize
he has a 50K or even 100K credit card debt she needs to start helping him pay off because he isn't even making enough to survive.
Needless to say the woman is usually gone as soon as she can.

That is hilarious

Those guys are geniuses! Imagine the girl expecting one thing then finding out the opposite then having to be on the receiving end and ending up paying his credit card debts lol

Guess they would need to do it to buy their own flight home lol.

[olgac]

Well it's not going to be very funny when the girl files false DV charges to get legalized fast and get out of the marriage.
I haven't seen a single FSU woman who wanted to go home after her marriage didn't work out, so I don't understand
what flight home You are talking about Obviously all these women are still here in US 25 years later married to
someone else.

[2tallbill]

Well it's not going to be very funny when the girl files false DV charges to get legalized fast and get out of the marriage.
I haven't seen a single FSU woman who wanted to go home after her marriage didn't work out, so I don't understand
what flight home You are talking about Obviously all these women are still here in US 25 years later married to
someone else.

Plus a man needs to sign an affidavit of support guarantying to reimburse the government for
anything services that she uses for the next ten years. She could be living in a rent free apartment
while getting banged by the trainer at the gym all of which is getting paid for by jailbird, who didn't
think about getting their financial ducks in a row before pursuing a hot FSUW.

[olgac]

Very true and I even heard stories that some judges interpret this affidavid of support to assign the alimony.

[ML]

With the number of men becoming less in both countries due to losses in war and the economy of both countries becoming increasingly bad could young FSW start getting with very old men as a solution to the problem of not enough decent single young men?

Will we in future see some young FSW sexually riding some old guy of retirement age in these countries to get what she wants?

The future has always been here.  Will this feature be heightened in todays world . . . possibly.