Outlook for Children of joint Western/FSU relationships

[Trenchcoat]

I definitely think the Western Education System breeds too much Self Interest in Women. I think that is what you are dealing with here Krim with your daughter.

In general it has been noted by many that modern Western Women are very Self Interested and that of course is usually a bad thing for us Men.

[krimster2]

the WHOLE WORLD IS ABOUT "SELF INTEREST"

women choose men who have the ability to satisy "their needs"
same way we do, to satisy ours
they choose from one set of criteria, and we choose using another (T&A)

think of it as a "barrier to entry" to keep out horny low life Incel males from the dating market becuz they have nothin to contribute

you want a tall gorgeous playboy centerfold to oogle in the shower and become yur lawfully wedded spouse?
what do you have to offer in return?
quid pro quo - where's yur quid HOME BOY?

smart guys have wealth and accomplishments and abilities and knowledge
and offer safety and comfort to women in exchange for their "services"
been goin on fer thousands of years

once I "wized up" this perspective worked quite well fer me!!


every place has a "dating market"
depending on the local demographics
yur worth in foreign dating markets can be dramatically higher than yur "appraised fair market value" in yur home country

this is how you gain leverage in the dating market, through information leading to action

see www.behorneynomore.com

but this favors smart, rich guys
and not dumb poor ones

Darwin called this "Natural Selection"

so it's "ALL natural" and 100% Organic

alas, poor Bee Farmer, a fellow of infinite jest
who bared his Incel soul for us to mock and ridicule
while showing us the fragility of the "human condition"
a random representative of the great mass of humanity living lives of "quiet desperation"

I guess buddha was right about desire and suffering
upon reflection, my only desire - is to desire nothing

the more you posess, the more your posessions start posessing you and become a burden

the only physical asset you should own in the USA, is a property-tax free farm that borders a major highway

the more you work "outside the system" the better off yur gonna be

you need to learn blue collar skills and have yur own blue collar buisiness, like plumbing, etc, and find a niche for yourself and be INDEPENDENT
if you work for somebody else, you lose at least half the value of yur work as their profit, compared to doing the same job for your own profit

hundreds of years ago, pre-Industrial revolution
the UK was a nation of Bakers, Smiths, Potters
before they ended up workin at slave wage levels in the dark satanic mills of Birmingham

in "The Real World"
yur primary focus as an adult man, is to figure out how to make money ENTIRELY on yur own, and NOT just take a paycheck from somebody else
after that...yur free to pretty much do whatever else you want with yur life, how and when and where ya want
capische?

[Trenchcoat]

With modern Western Women the Self Interest is different to the general self interest people have. It tends to exclude pretty much anybody or anything else, it's a world that starts and finishes the day with themselves each day. Where before they used to see Western Men as complimentary to themselves now he is something non complimentary. Modern Western Women really are focused intensely on themselves in every aspect.

It's Western Education & Culture that has done this to them. It's said, 'hey you can have all of this... (trappings of wealth) if you go out and get by following a career path'. The woman's focus then all shifts to what she can go out and get for herself. The man is often discarded or used in this situation, at best he might be seen as a companion in the career world if he can keep up. Doing better than the girl may not be such a good idea as it can lead to much jealousy from the woman and break up. Doing too badly in comparison to the girl can lead to the girl disrespecting the guy and breaking up.

Not all western women may be like this and some relationships go the distance but so many western women tend to be like this these days.

[krimster2]

let he who is without sin...yada yada

why would female behavior be ANYTHIING other than what it is in reality?
it's "all about" satisfying their desires, that are just as base as yours Trench
both sexes use each other for their own gratification and satisfaction
and they have this honed to a fine art

EVERY woman's path to prosperity is GREATLY enhanced by having an obediant strong donkey
if you are a "beast of burden"
then some woman is gonna put a saddle on ya and then tell ya where to take her

and so she dangles her girly bits in front of ya
and you're hornier than a two-peckered billy-goat
so you become devoted and dedicated to serving her whims in exchange for...well modesty prohibits me from saying....
allright...allright....
in exchange for "pooty tang"

the devil's bargain each man must make with the object of his desire and himself

OTOH, I greatly enjoy brushing my face on my wife's naked breasts
I call it, "doin a drive-by" cuz I have my mouth open and tongue out

it's a "man's life" here in Texas
and not for no Incel like Bee Farmer
who is totally perplexed by the dilemma of "how to go about getting laid for the VERY first time"

Trench, instead of bein one of them there "misogynists"
you wanna be the opposite
and be someone who knows how to please a woman and make her happy and relaxed
and THAT's when you can totally grab 'em by the "you-know-what"
ya feel me bruv?

[Trenchcoat]

I really see myself more as a 'Male Chauvinist' than a 'Misogynist' and proudly so I like women but feel they need to be treated a certain way

On a more mundane level I feel it's better to treat girls as girls and boys like boys. If you treat a girl like a boy, say getting her to do mechanical/technical subjects then you'll get a girl who looks a girl on the outside but with a boy's mind. That can lead her to a bad place such as being career minded, not wishing to have babies, trouble with relationships with men in a intimate sense.

Better to put her into a course in child care no matter how gifted or brainy she is. It's like in the Grand National horse race. Do you race last year's winner or put last year's winner out to stud to go forth and multiply on good genetics

For both men and women I think we become what we do largely, probably kind of self evident I guess. Time over again I kind of wished I had done motor mechanics when younger, I could have saved a fortune in car repairs and spotting problems early. As it is I'm fairly blind to the world of mechanics and how mechanical stuff operates, but at the time all that stuff was looked down upon and out of vogue. Many people thought white collar work was the way to go and what women wanted to see in men. It sort of was but too much supply ruined riding any wave there.

[Trenchcoat]

smart guys have wealth and accomplishments and abilities and knowledge
and offer safety and comfort to women in exchange for their "services"
been goin on fer thousands of years

once I "wized up" this perspective worked quite well fer me!!


every place has a "dating market"
depending on the local demographics
yur worth in foreign dating markets can be dramatically higher than yur "appraised fair market value" in yur home country

this is how you gain leverage in the dating market, through information leading to action

It's a shame the UK is not a lot more like Ukraine. In Ukraine if you are a bit more intelligent that can mean you can pass qualifications that lead to a good salary. A good salary in Ukraine means a lot more comfortable conditions and that attracts women.

In the UK there is a big oversupply of people with qualifications so the money you get often isn't particularly better than without qualifications. So no uplift in the dating market for those with intelligence.

The Welfare State here also screws things up in the dating market in that it provides for the feckless. Women can get pregnant, put the whole cost down on the state to pay, the taxpayers, and get her own flat. Guys on dole in the UK can attract a girl not because they are good providers but because they appeal to women socially, act up, etc. In Ukraine most women run the opposite way from those guys.

So even aside from any wealth, exchange rates, etc are taken into account the different way Ukraine is in terms of who it rewards would tend to favour me.

The UK is essentially a joke in terms of rewarding those that work, it puts those who don't in a more favourable position to me lol. It would be funny had it not screwed me over so much for women, the UK is a crazily stupid society.