New Agency with a different slant

[retired_army_ranger]

Our website, www.experienceodessa.com,  is being constructed. We already have a huge tour lined up.  People already in Odessa may participate at a reduced cost which will be determined later. Odessa contact:  Phil Coffman at 80974970515.  E-mail:  garyfmeyer@comcast.net.

[jb]

Huh~??!!

We go from;

I'm not planning on marraige. I'm here to have fun and I can find plenty of women who play without pay.

to cranking up a new agency.   I guess I missed something somewhere along the line.:?:?

[Son of Clyde]

The link will not work unless you remove the comma at the end.

[retired_army_ranger]

You confusion is noted; however, we are aiming at guys who may not want to find a woman for marriage.  The girls we have interviewed so far are not "play for pay" types.  They are girls who will hang out with us, and whatever happens, happens - whether its a serious thing or just a fun thing.  We've got plenty of bites so far, most from guys who are fed up with marriage and dating sites that promise everything, and deliver very little.  Speaking from my onw experience, I can tell you that there are plenty of women to satisfy just about everything guys want.  Some of these women have been burned by guys who come here, promise them the world, go back home, and never contact the girl again - some of whom wind up pregnant.  We've told the girls that some of these guys may be in serious search for a wife but, most just want a vacation to spend time with beautiful women.  We've got almost 100 girls on tap.

[retired_army_ranger]

I see you like dancing Son of Clyde.  Well, we have two dance instructors in our group - one teaches West Coast Swing and the other teaches ballroom adapted to club dancing.  I specialize in a hot Latin Hustle which ladies like. Lots of spinning, dipping, etc.

[philb]

I bet you attract a lot of quality people (both men and women).

[Bruno]

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We've told the girls that some of these guys may be in serious search for a wife but, most just want a vacation to spend time with beautiful women.
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I see, ... Elena was wrong when she have think that you are a sex tourist ... Are you the owner of a agency who go promote tour for sex tourist ? :?:?

[Elen]

If he posted from the beginning he was from Ukraine I would not make a mistake

[Bruno]

Please Elena, this is nothing to make with Ukraine... he can make the same in Russia :?...

[Elen]

Oh my GOD!!! I'm not against Ukraine again but now HE posted he's from UKRAINE

(I could not write "if he posted from the begining he was from RUSSIA.... as he is from Ukraine)


(it seems you all become as crazy about any mention Ukraine by Russians as Ukraines themselves)

[retired_army_ranger]

We carefully screen both men and women.  We also have developed a "Code of Conduct" for the men coming here so we can have good representatives from America. We are tired of the "Ugly American" image that often is perceived in East Europe and other countries.  The women are also interviewed to determine if they are girls who want to play for pay or, just ordinary girls who want to hang out with Americans who will show them a good time.  We do not accept the play for pay girls.  If some of the men and women happen to get along well and want to pursue a serious relationship, then good.  But, everyone will have a good time - guaranteed.  

[retired_army_ranger]

No, we are not a "sex tour" agency.  We simply place men and women together in a party atmosphere.  And, we realize that some of the men and women may develop a serious relationship.  We also know that some men will join us just for a good time for a different kind of vacation.  The girls know this up front.

[philb]

[user=188]retired_army_ranger[/user] wrote:

We carefully screen both men and women. We also have developed a "Code of Conduct" for the men coming here so we can have good representatives from America. We are tired of the "Ugly American" image that often is perceived in East Europe and other countries. The women are also interviewed to determine if they are girls who want to play for pay or, just ordinary girls who want to hang out with Americans who will show them a good time. We do not accept the play for pay girls. If some of the men and women happen to get along well and want to pursue a serious relationship, then good. But, everyone will have a good time - guaranteed.

 

And this is going to help improve the image of American's?  There are many different kinds of ugly and so far I fail to see how what you have described will do anything other than promote this ugliness. 

I could give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you are not aware of how your advertisements will be interpreted, but I won't.  I think you are completely aware of what you are trying to sell.

A sex tour under any other name is still a sex tour, whether you "pay for play" or not.

[jb]

Yeah,,, I'd like to see the *fine print* on that contract too.  Maybe there's a paragraph devoted to "tipping" at the end of the party?

Get real, folks, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...

[Elen]

and smells like fish....

[retired_army_ranger]

So many doubting Thomases.  Well, the proof is in the pudding.  Just thought I'd throw in a few other quotes to counter such negativity.  I suppose some of you may have ben burned in some way by agencies.  Some of the girls that post profiles with agencies have been "scammed" by Ameericans.  So, scamming is not restricted to only girls.  Any of you are welcome to observe this as it unfolds, and I'm sure that you'll see a difference in the way we do business.  I am the first to get in some American's face when I see something that is embarassing to me as an American, and I'm sure that some of you know what I mean.  Pay for play?  I suppose that, in some way, that interpretation may be correct because, sure, the men will be paying for dinners, drinks, etc.  But, isn't that done in the course of normal dating when the man picks up ther tab?

[Elen]

Wonder what is that interest for young girls to"play in pick-ups" with American old men:?:?

[ConnerVT]

Just another international swingers club. **shrug**

[retired_army_ranger]

Our "old" men range in age from 23 to 35.  Now, I'm old.  But I guarantee that none of the young pups posting here can keep up with me in ANY physical endeavor.  Don't you guys get out much?  Sounds like some of you need to get laid.

[Elen]

What for men in age from 23 to 35 do want to fly 1000s kilometrs just to pick up some pretty girls??? What?? There is nothing at their  own homes??

[retired_army_ranger]

You have missed the entire point.  These men usually vacation in the same old boring places in the US.  None of them have have ever been to a foreign country other than Mexico or Canada.  They have never crossed the Atlantic Ocean.  And, sure, there are women in the US, usually obese, selfish, and spoiled with their own agendas.  I would think that people in Odessa would be happy that Americans are spending money there.  Also, I don't know any man who would travel over 5,000 miles just for sex when he could spend the money for a beautiful prostitute or escort girl.  

[Elen]

Also, I don't know any man who would travel over 5,000 miles just for sex when he could spend the money for a beautiful prostitute or escort girl.

Yeah?? Really?? Wonder when then such "abstract" concept like "sex tourism" does go from??

[retired_army_ranger]

Too bad we can't meet because the eyes can tell more than words on a computer.  You seem to be very cynical.  Maybe you've had an unhappy experience with an American?

[Elen]

What is cynilcal in my question??? I just try to catch a difference between that business of yours and "sex tourism".

And NO!! I have not BAD experience with Americans:D. And I speak not about Americans (you can't find any post of me where I said something bad about Americans - except politic thread - but it's poliric, that's all)

I'm about "fishy" businesses. And there no need to test s*** for know it's s*** and nothing more.

[retired_army_ranger]

I'm not stating that you had a bad experience with an American-  ASKING.

OK.  Assume that this is a "tourism sex" business, which it is not.  But, assuming it is, what would be so wrong with that if every one involved benefits?  From a moralistic view, I would agree that its wrong but, from a business point of view, c'est la vie.  Far worse things are happening in countries of the former USSR.