New Agency with a different slant

[Elen]

From a moralistic view, I would agree that its wrong but, from a business point of view, c'est la vie. Far worse things are happening in countries of the former USSR.

You said THAt by yourselves:D As for me I don't play in games which demand overstep my "morals", but there are a lot of girls (in Ukraine:P:P:P) who do otherwise you would not be in such business THERE:D. 

(Ah Somebody will come running now and start to shame me for my imperial chauvinistic "manners". Save your breath up to the evening, boys:D coz I'm running off for my business right now)

[Evgeni]

Hey Ranger buddy,  you need to "beat your boots."  When you plan a river crossing, you better have paddles!  I checked out your website.  I wanted to see if you offered apartments, but your site has this:

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Apartment Rental
This is where we tell them about the apartment, wha'ts included BLA BLA BLA



Second Paragraph
More BLA BLA if you need it



Third Paragraph
More BLA BLA if you need it



Fourth Paragraph
More BLA BLA if you need it[/align]

Well I know that every RANGER knows how to find Paragraph II.  THE MISSION.  I checked your Mission Statement under Our Mission:

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Our Mission Statement
This is where we explain our mission statement BLAB BLA BLA



More stuff to say
More stuff to say about the title above



Our Commitment
We need a quality or commitment statement here BLA BLA BLA
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Did you work for MICROSOFT after leaving the RANGERS?  You know they consistently come out with software that is half-finished.  Here's a free tip RANGER buddy:  Have your web page completed before publishing it!

 

 

 

[retired_army_ranger]

If you read the original post, you would see that I stated that the website was under construction, BUDDY!  And, don't worry, everything is going smoothly.  We didn't use the website to attract our first clients.  We used the BUDDY system, and word of mouth got us started.  The website will be ready soon, and we expect soem good hits.  I don;t have to do this.  I'm just involved because a friend asked me to help.

[retired_army_ranger]

P.S.  We have 60 (sixty) apartments in the city center. You sound military.  Which unit?

[Kvinna]

[user=188]retired_army_ranger[/user] wrote:

P.S. We have 60 (sixty) apartments in the city center. You sound military. Which unit?

ha! very cheap brothel! 

wonder what would pimps from Odessa say of this project... or maybe they don't know yet about this western expansion to prostitution market?

[Elen]

wonder what would pimps from Odessa say of this project

Они не будут говорить , они подвесят его за Фаберже

 

[Bruno]

Like a lot of business in ex-USSR... he got pay some special "tax" to local mafia

[Kvinna]

а может, правда, оповестить их о вторжении импортных козлов в родной одесский бизнес

[Elen]

Сами разберутся:P

[retired_army_ranger]

Well, another misinformed person.  First, I spit on pimps.  Secondly, the so-called "Mafia" has not bothered us in this endeavor.  Thirdly, if they do, then we know what to do.  We have our own local people of some influence, and I don't give a crap about the "Mafia".

[retired_army_ranger]

Why is your "antidate" website in English but, all of the posts in Russian?

[Kvinna]

[user=188]retired_army_ranger[/user] wrote:

We have our own local people of some influence, and I don't give a crap about the "Mafia".

 

ahs so you are involved in local criminal system?   Oh, my my

and by the why, I see you are  not able to find difference between russian and english langage

[retired_army_ranger]

We operate honestly and do not deal with anyone involved in corrpution.  If everyone decided to do that, you would see things in Ukraine change.  Corruption even extends to college professors who are bribed to give students good grades.  Now, if anyone has a porblem with what I'm saying, I can be found easily to discuss it in detail.  Tarantino's Restaurant in Odessa on Ekaterina Street.  I am well known there.

I am known anywhere I go as a gentleman, and I do not tolerate anyone, official or otherwise, asking for money for me to operate an honest business.  So, if any "Mafia" types are reading this - f*** you!

[Elen]

Just curiouse when you registrated that "honest business" of yours how did you call it??

[retired_army_ranger]

Experience Odessa.  Registration processed  by a member of the tax police who made sure that everything is legitimate.

[Elen]

I didn't mean the "name" as it is but a name of "sphera of business" - "сфера деятельности" - tourism- intertaiment-education-....what?

[retired_army_ranger]

Oh, sorry.  Tourism.  These are young guys who normally spend several thousand dollars going to the same old beaches in America.  Many jumped at the opportuinity to travel overseas.  Several have never even had a passport.  None have had a visa for any country in Europe, Asia, or Russia.

[Elen]

Aga! So that's tourism:D:D ..... with sex bonus

[retired_army_ranger]

You seem to be hung up on sex.  You could be my kind of woman:)  Actually, we now have four women interested (not lesbian).  They will be with our first tour.  They may be a little depressed when they see how beautiful the Ukrainian and Russian women are. May give them some incentive to stop eating at McDonald's and work out more.  Seriously though, I'm sure that some of the guys and girls will partake of pleasures of the flesh.  Then too, maybe some will find a life partner.  Who is to say?  

[Bruno]

Tourism is the future big business for ex-USSR country...

The only problem is that you have present your agency like a agency for sex tourist...

If you organize great trip and stay, i don't see any kind of problem but if you earn money with sex, you are not better that the local pimps...

Don't be involved in this is a good advice... and in any case, if one of your tourist wish sex, just give him the name of some street...

The day Ukraine will become a European country, a tourist agency can make a lot of money... and actually, the new president wish to be a member for europe... in europe, prostitution tolered but not pimps... if your main goal is sex tourisme, you go dissappear with the time... when new law will be coming...

Some reference for you :

Policy and Law Ukraine has adopted a law making trafficking and forcing someone into prostitution punishable by up to 15 years in prison. (Radio Liberty Prague Czech Republic, "Ukraine Cracks Down on Sexual Slavery," RFE/RL Newsline, Vol2, No71, Part2, 14 April 1998)

The governments of Poland and Ukraine agreed on July 16, 1998, to cooperate in fighting prostitution and sex slave trafficking to the West. "The Mafia has got engaged in [the trafficking of women]. We must take preventive measures together," a Ukrainian Interior Ministry representative commented on the agreement. ("Poland, Ukraine to fight sex slave industry," Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty Newsline, Vol. 2, No. 136 Part II, 17 July 1998)

[Kvinna]

maybe we have to report this to FBI and will see what they think about this business

[retired_army_ranger]

You may be interested to know that I worked as an investigator charged with hthe responsibility of tracking down people in South America who were involved in what is know as the "white slave trade".  So, I know full well what you're talking about.  And, I abhor people who traffic in any form of prostitution or slavery.

And, I will again empahasize that we are NOT operating a "sex tourism" agency.  So, get off the subject because its going nowhere, and I won't respond to any other statements that imply that we are running a "sex tour".  Notify the FBI, the CIA, the DIA, Interpol, the Mafia, or anyone you want to because we are legitimate and will be licensed shortly.  If any of you want to come to Odessa to check us out, the drinks are one me.

[Bruno]

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OK. Assume that this is a "tourism sex" business, which it is not. But, assuming it is, what would be so wrong with that if every one involved benefits? From a moralistic view, I would agree that its wrong but, from a business point of view, c'est la vie. Far worse things are happening in countries of the former USSR.
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[align=center]Criminal Code of Ukraine[/align]


[align=center]Article 124(1)[/align]

 

           

 



Open or hidden power over a person, connected with the transition of that person, with or without his or her consent, over Ukrainian border, or without it, with subsequent trafficking, or any other paid transition of the person, with the intention to exploit him or her in sex business, porno business, crime, claiming debts, adoption with the intention of getting financial revenue, using the person in armed conflicts, exploitation of his or her labour -

is prosecuted by imprisonment for the term of up to eight years, with or without the confiscation of personal possessions.

The same action committed to a person under 16 years old, to a group of persons, or not for the first time, or using a preliminary criminal agreement between a number of people, or abusing authority, or using financial or other dependency of the victim -

is prosecuted by imprisonment for the term of five to ten years, with or without the confiscation of personal possessions.

The action, described in Part 1 and 2 of this article, committed by an organised group, or connected with illegal transition of children over the border of Ukraine, or retaining them abroad, or intending to take organs or tissues for transplantation from the victim, or forced donorship, or when this action resulted in grave consequences,

is prosecuted by imprisonment for the term of eight to fifteen years with the confiscation of personal possessions.

Amendments to Ukrainian Criminal Code adopted by Ukrainian Parliament on March 24, 1998, will also be made to a number of its other articles.

 

Exploit Ukrainian woman in sex business ( in Ukraine or abroad ) is not allow by the Ukrainian law... if somebody clain against you to Ukrainian authorithy because you receive money from foreign man in exchange of sex service of Ukrainian woman ( same if she agree ) ... be ready to stay in jail for long time... and lose all your money...

Your are not a sex business but be carefull about what can happen... you receive money from man and you introduce ladies to these man ... and from your first post, several people have understandt that you was like a sex tour operator... if the law think the same, you will know some problem... take care about what you go write on your own site... think about this before make your text...

[retired_army_ranger]

See my last post.  You guys are obsessed with sex.  Get laid or something.  Maybe you'll feel better.

[Bruno]

I have see your last post... but i have begin type my post before you publish the your's... and about sex, sorry, you was one of the first to speak or invoque it in your own post