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Computers in Ukraine schools
« on: December 19, 2006, 02:18:39 PM »
I was talking with Margo last night about Microsoft Powerpoint.  She has done a few projects for school and was asking some questions about it.  We have it on the machines at home and she does some of her work here also.  She uses Word and Excel also for school.  I wasn’t thinking and asked her if they use Microsoft programs in Ukraine or something different.  She looked at me strange and paused for a few seconds and said, “David, we don’t have computers in Ukraine.”  She meant in school they don’t have them.

I asked if the teachers had them or maybe the director of the school and she said that nobody had a computer in the school.  Her mother later confirmed that when I asked her.  I keep forgetting how far behind they are with technology in their schools.  The schools here have had computers down to the pre-school level for about 10 years or more. 

This really doesn’t mean much in terms of learning the basics of math, science and the languages but it allows everyone who attends school to be computer literate.  They may not be able to read past the 6th grade level here but they surf the web and create great Powerpoint and Excel spreadsheets.

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Re: Computers in Ukraine schools
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2006, 03:01:09 PM »
I agree. Cultural literacy is pretty much dead here in the States. I mean that no one knows who Thomas Pynchon but everyone can identify Paris Hellton or a Crackberry!  ;D
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Re: Computers in Ukraine schools
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2006, 03:46:29 PM »
She looked at me strange and paused for a few seconds and said, “David, we don’t have computers in Ukraine.”  She meant in school they don’t have them.

I asked if the teachers had them or maybe the director of the school and she said that nobody had a computer in the school.  Her mother later confirmed that when I asked her.  I keep forgetting how far behind they are with technology in their schools.  The schools here have had computers down to the pre-school level for about 10 years or more. 

It is not a technology problem but more a money problem...

Now, it can seem crazy but what about these computer ( edit : the crank at the right side is for charge the battery, no need of electricity ):


He is not commercial shell in shop... it is from a special program who shell it worldwide to school via gouverment administration... it is simply for help children to have access to computer... 100$ by computer... i think that a school can have a little computer local with 10 unit without to much problem...

Russia have already join these project who start distribution in 2007... http://www.ed.gov.ru/ob-edu/noc/rub/ischool/321/ , http://www.ed.gov.ru/anons/922/ ...  time for Ukrainian teacher for make pression on own gouverment...

detail of the computer is ( sorry, it use Linux since windows license will be more expensive that the computer, partner in software development is Red Hat ) :

from the site : english http://laptop.org/ , ukrainian : http://laptop.org/index.ukr.html
 
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    * AMD Geode GX-500@1.0W
    * CPU clock speed: 366 Mhz
    * Compatibility: X86/X87-compatible
    * Chipset: AMD CS5536 South Bridge
    * Graphics controller: Integrated with Geode CPU; unified memory architecture
    * Embedded controller (for production), ENE KB3700: Image:KB3700-ds-01.pdf
    * DRAM memory: 128 MiB dynamic RAM
    * Data rate: Dual – DDR266 – 133 Mhz
    * BIOS: 1024KB SPI-interface flash ROM; LinuxBIOS open-source BIOS; Open Firmware bootloader
    * Mass storage: 512 MiB SLC NAND flash, high speed flash controller
    * Drives: No rotating media

Display:

    * Liquid-crystal display: 7.5” Dual-mode TFT display
    * Viewing area: 152.4 mm × 114.3 mm
    * Resolution: 1200 (H) × 900 (V) resolution (200 dpi)
    * Mono display: High-resolution, reflective monochrome mode
    * Color display: Standard-resolution, quincunx-sampled, transmissive color mode
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      eToys (Squeak) running on the OLPC display
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      eToys (Squeak) running on the OLPC display
      Special "DCON" chip, that enables deswizzling and anti-aliasing in color mode, while enabling the display to remain live with the processor suspended. Since we will always be running the frame buffer at 1200x900 resolution, the color resolution is lower, but exactly how this works out in effective resolution is very complex.

Integrated peripherals:

    * Keyboard: 70+ keys, 1.2mm stroke; sealed rubber-membrane key-switch assembly
          o Keyboard Layouts
          o Layout pictures - US International, Thai, Arabic, Spanish, Portuguese, Nigeria
    * Cursor-control keys: five-key cursor-control pad; four directional keys plus Enter
    * Touchpad: Dual capacitance/resistive touchpad; supports written-input mode
    * Audio: Analog Devices AD1888, AC97-compatible audio codec; stereo, with dual internal speakers; monophonic, with internal microphone and using the Analog Devices SSM2211 for audio amplification
    * Wireless: Marvell Libertas 88W8388+88W8015, 802.11b/g compatible; dual adjustable, rotating coaxial antennas; supports diversity reception
    * Status indicators: Power, battery, WiFi; visible lid open or closed
    * Video camera: 640x480 resolution, 30FPS

External connectors:

    * Power: 2-pin DC-input, 10 to 25 V, -23 to -10 V
    * Line output: Standard 3.5mm 3-pin switched stereo audio jack
    * Microphone: Standard 3.5mm 2-pin switched mono microphone jack; selectable sensor-input mode
    * Expansion: 3 Type-A USB-2.0 connectors; SD Card slot
    * Maximum power: 500 mA (total)

Battery:

    * Pack type: 5 Cells, 6V series configuration
    * Fully-enclosed “hard” case; user removable
    * Capacity: 22.8 Watt-hours
    * Cell type: NiMH
    * Pack protection: Integrated pack-type identification
    * Integrated thermal sensor
    * Integrated polyfuse current limiter
    * Cycle life: Minimum 2,000 charge/discharge cycles (to 50% capacity of new, IIRC).
    * Power Management will be critical

BIOS/loader:

    * LinuxBIOS is our BIOS for production units; Open Firmware is used as the bootloader.

Environmental specifications:

    * Temperature: somewhere in between typical laptop requirements and Mil spec; exact values have not been settled
    * Humidity: Similar attitude to temperature. When closed, the unit should seal well enough that children walking to and from school need not fear rainstorms or dust.
    * Maximum altitude: -15m to 3048m (14.7 to 10.1 psia) (operating), -15m to 12192m (14.7 to 4.4 psia) (non-operating
    * Shock 125g, 2ms, half-sine (operating) 200g, 2ms, half-sine (non-operating)
    * Random vibration: 0.75g zero-to-peak, 10Hz to 500Hz, 0.25 oct/min sweep rate (operating); 1.5g zero-to-peak, 10Hz to 500Hz, 0.5 oct/min sweep rate (nonoperating)
    * 2mm plastic walls (1.3mm is typical for most systems).

Regulatory requirements:

    * The usual US and EU EMI/EMC requirements will be met.
    * The laptop and all OLPC-supplied accessories will be fully UL and is RoHS compliant.

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Re: Computers in Ukraine schools
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2006, 06:22:07 PM »
I agree. Cultural literacy is pretty much dead here in the States. I mean that no one knows who Thomas Pynchon but everyone can identify Paris Hellton or a Crackberry!  ;D

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Re: Computers in Ukraine schools
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2006, 06:57:00 PM »
     My daughter goes to a private school here in Simferopol that is associated with one of the uniuversities and I have never seen a computer in any of the classrooms, only in some of the administrative offices.  As a rule, the public schools don't have computers for the kids. There is a technical/trade school just down the road that has a computer lab and my friends runs that as well as the computer club.  There are also several other technical schools that have computer courses as do the universities.  It really is a question of money.  But don't get the idea that they are computer illiterate here.  I am amazed at the number of young people here that are not only computer literate, but computer whizzes.  There is a huge pool here of very competent programmers here and if someone can come up with a plan to do outsourcing like they have done in India and more recently in other Eastern European countries, they could do very well.
     I have spent time talking to a lot of young people here in my English classes and we have discussed the strengths and weaknesses of the two educational systems.  In general terms, on the pre-university level, I would say that the US is stronger in the science disciplines, mostly due to financial restrictions here.  The FSU is stronger in the cultural and social sciences.  They are required to take three languages: Russian, Ukrainian and a third of their choice.  They know their geography and their world history as well as having a better grasp of world events.  They can name and quote numerous Western authors from Shakespeare to Mark Twain and.  Some of you out there ask your kids how many Russian writers or poets they can nameand I bet they would be lucky to come up with even one.  They are an impressive group of young people and I cannot help but have optimism for the future of this country.

 

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