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Offline Kvinna

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« on: April 01, 2005, 08:59:59 PM »
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Warning Signs
[align=justify]     The following is a list of some of the typical "Red Flags" or warning signs you should be on alert for during your correspondence.  Some of the items in the list may be legitimate and should not be immediate cause for concern or distrust.  You are more likely to be interacting with a scammer if several of these conditions are present.  Review the list several times during your correspondence and add up how many items apply to your lady.  It is up to you to use your common sense and trust your instincts.[/align]
·  You found her ad on a free-to-post-personals website
·  Her personal ad is listed on several free-to-post personal websites
·  Her personal ad has very little information posted
·  Her personal ad has too much 'flowery' narrative
·  Her personal ad has a broad or simplistic description of her personality and preferences
·  Her personal ad has the same description or information as others
·  Her personal ad indicates a very large (e.g. 20 - 60 years) acceptable age range
·  Her personal ad indicates not preference for age, race or religion
·  She is from Lugansk, Ukraine a hotspot for scammers

·  She initiates the contact with you
·  She replied to your ad listed on a membership dating site that she can't afford
·  She asks for your phone number and calls you directly for more than one minute

·  She writes overly tender letters at the very beginning of your correspondence
·  She flatters you too much or thinks you are perfect
·  She doesn't ask many personal questions
·  She is not curious about your financial circumstances
·  She falls in love very fast
·  She uses the words "honesty", "trust", "love" and "Sex" frequently
·  She writes long dreamy and poetic monologues and doesn't personalize her letters
·  She uses CAPITAL letters on key words
·  She responds to your letters frequently and usually very quickly
·  She sends her letters during a time she should be sleeping or working
·  She sends the same letters that known scammers have written to other men
·  She usually writes very long letters and rarely short notes
·  She doesn't answer your direct questions even after repeated attempts
·  She repeats things that have already been mentioned a in the past
·  She addresses a letter to you by the wrong name
·  She only uses your name once at the beginning of the letter
·  She asks questions about subjects that you have already answered in the past
·  She makes it a point to tell you how small her salary is without you asking
·  She openly discusses or mentions her "financial problems"
·  She has a computer at home with internet access but doesn't have an adequate income to justify it
·  She has a cell phone but doesn't have an adequate income to justify it
·  She is a perfect "10" and your not
·  She is more than 15 years younger than you
·  She claims to be a virgin
·  She has extensive foreign travel experience
·  She would rather have money than flowers

·  She asks for money for correspondence costs
·  She insists she has a visa or can get a visa to visit you
·  She asks for money for a visa and/or travel expenses
·  She asks for money for living or education expenses
·  She asks for money for an illness, hospitalization, surgery, accident or debt
·  She wants you to send her the money as soon as possible
·  She is indignant if you don't send her money when requested
·  She is ungrateful if you offer to send a smaller amount of money
·  She is knowledgeable on how to send and receive money via Western Union
·  She prefers that you send money via Western Union
·  She wants you to send money in the name of someone else

·  Her photos are always professional looking or taken in a studio
·  She sends a new photo with every letter
·  Each new photo is number sequentially (1.jpg, 2.jpg, 3.jpg, etc.)

·  She sends sexy or very suggestive photos
·  The names of her photos are numbered above "10" (e.g. "015.jpg", "025.jpg")
·  She can't send you recent snapshots
·  She doesn't have simple snapshots taken around her home or with her friends, family or pet
·  Snap shots and studio pictures don't look like the same person
·  She refuses to give you her address
·  She doesn't have a phone and doesn't have a friend, neighbor or relative that has a phone either
·  She refuses to give you her phone number even after repeated request
·  She uses a free e-mail service*
·  Her photo or name is listed as a known or suspected scammer on anti-scam sites

·  She wants to meet you at as soon as possible
·  If you meet, she requests luxurious gifts or insists on going to expensive places or events
·  If you meet, she has limited or infrequent time available to spend with you
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in fact I selected only most ridiculous patterns, but what I really have understood She is a scammer because she is alive

 
When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I didn’t speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.

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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2005, 09:34:18 PM »
Kvinna, Where have you been?
Is this your list or a list you found on the net?
What do you mean by this?:
'in fact I selected only most ridiculous patterns, but what I really have understood She is a scammer because she is alive'

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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2005, 09:55:11 PM »
[user=134]Photo Guy[/user] wrote:
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Kvinna, Where have you been?
Is this your list or a list you found on the net?
What do you mean by this?:
'in fact I selected only most ridiculous patterns, but what I really have understood She is a scammer because she is alive'

 

It is not my list I have found this in the Net,,, and laugh too much...

what I meant? Well as long as you will follow such ridiculous patterns in your search for russian wife, the untrust and misunderstanding between western men and women from FSU will only rise

following quote for russian ladies

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    [/*]
    • Visas. It is difficult for FSU citizens to get a visa to a western country. For Europe, maybe 1 in 20 can get one. The others are flat out rejected. Anyone who says, "I'll get a visa in a 3-6 days." is lying to you. It's next to impossible. 3-6 days to hear that they were rejected.
    [/*]
    • A taxi is any car that stops and the cost is about $2 for anywhere in the city. Maybe $5 or $10 for Moscow and Kiev. A translator should cost about $5-10 a day. Or $50 a week.[/*]
    • [/font]If a girl tells you that her family has approved of her moving abroad, she is feeding you a line to relax your worried mind. Most Russians, especially older Russians and especially those in the family don't believe in leaving Russia. They are very patriotic and believe that Russians should marry Russians and live in Russia. [/size][/*]
    Let's offer your virtual boyfriend to try to go to Moscow and to get the downtown from SVO-2 for 10$ :D:D:D
[/font][/size]
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2005, 01:13:05 AM »
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If a russian woman don't speak of you and about moving abroad with familly, she is certainly a scam... Move abroad is not a problem... but RW respect family and inform it... for the second meeting with Galina, i go meet his big brother who life in Griekeland and the young one from Moldava... all the familly will be present and all wish know me...:cool:
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2005, 04:33:48 AM »
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If a russian woman don't speak of you and about moving abroad with familly, she is certainly a scam... Move abroad is not a problem... but RW respect family and inform it... for the second meeting with Galina, i go meet his big brother who life in Griekeland and the young one from Moldava... all the familly will be present and all wish know me...:cool:
[/font][/size][/quote]Why so? And if russian woman all the time tell you how much she dream about move to your country, what will you say???

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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2005, 05:00:08 AM »
Probably, he will be very glad ;):)
I am not looking for absolution. Forgiveness for the things I do. But before you come to any conclusions - try walking in my shoes.

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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2005, 05:06:58 AM »
I just have found some more patterns on the site of well-known scammer and cheater Saul

if a woman has different hair color on different photos she is scammer!

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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2005, 05:38:31 AM »
scammer and cheater Saul - definitely, he is kinda paranoid. :D
I am not looking for absolution. Forgiveness for the things I do. But before you come to any conclusions - try walking in my shoes.

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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2005, 06:12:24 AM »
seems to me the guys on this board are not interested to refer the scam patternes... they agree to use all these I have posted here
When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I didn’t speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.

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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2005, 06:16:14 AM »
:( - they are keeping silence coz they are applying all these patterns to their Russian women now. ;)
I am not looking for absolution. Forgiveness for the things I do. But before you come to any conclusions - try walking in my shoes.

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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2005, 06:39:21 AM »
Quote from: Kvinna
seems to me the guys on this board are not interested to refer the scam patternes... they agree to use all these I have posted here
They must be writing them down. For not forget to use.

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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2005, 06:41:40 AM »
:D:D:D
I am not looking for absolution. Forgiveness for the things I do. But before you come to any conclusions - try walking in my shoes.

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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2005, 06:47:13 AM »
OK I'll jump in.  It now appears that I have been seeing a scammer:shock:,  She has met the different hair color in different photographs test.  What should I do? :D

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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2005, 06:52:20 AM »
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OK I'll jump in.  It now appears that I have been seeing a scammer:shock:,  She has met the different hair color in different photographs test.  What should I do? :D
You are joking :( But this problem is very serious, by the way.
I am not looking for absolution. Forgiveness for the things I do. But before you come to any conclusions - try walking in my shoes.

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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2005, 07:03:42 AM »
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OK I'll jump in.  It now appears that I have been seeing a scammer:shock:,  She has met the different hair color in different photographs test.  What should I do? :D
You can continue to laugh but that woman was blacklisted by that cheater-scammer Saul.

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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2005, 07:07:16 AM »
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OK I'll jump in.  It now appears that I have been seeing a scammer:shock:,  She has met the different hair color in different photographs test.  What should I do? :D
You are joking :( But this problem is very serious, by the way.[/quote]

What is serious?  Different hair colors or scammers.:D

I think that the main pattern is if something appears to be good to be true it usually is.  ie. 18 year old model who says appearance and age is not important or 25 year old multimillionaire who just can't find a girl in the US with "traditional" values.  For the most part I think that most guys who look for "scammer patterns" and the like are just overly paranoid.

Maybe I have been fortunate, but I have never been scammmed.   It has been attempted on me once or twice, but these attempts were always very obvious.

« Last Edit: April 03, 2005, 07:10:00 AM by philb »

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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2005, 07:11:25 AM »
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Maybe I have been fortunate, but I have never been scammmed.   It has been attempted on me once or twice, but these attempts were always very obvious.


For how long have you been searching your Russian Miss Right? Or maybe you have found her?

Not all men are so smart and lucky as you are. Read their posts - they moan they were scammed. But when Fiorella posted her message here - none thought serously. But when they are scammed they start posting "pinks snots" (Russian figure of speech, sorry) here.
I am not looking for absolution. Forgiveness for the things I do. But before you come to any conclusions - try walking in my shoes.

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« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2005, 07:23:55 AM »
Quote from: Kvinna
  She would rather have money than flowers

  She is knowledgeable on how to send and receive money via Western Union[/b]

 

HHmmm, she meets three of the many signs.  That's it I'm looking elsewhere:P

Kvinna

I do not care what some of the other members say, the list you posted has some very good points.
Necessitas dat ingenium

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« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2005, 07:24:53 AM »
I did not mean to make light of the situation.  It is just that some of these "patterns" are ridiculously unbelievable.  I could not help but laugh. (the one about different hair colors in particular)

I think I have found her (Miss Right).  I made my first trip almost 4 years ago and have been to Russia or Ukraine a total of 9 times and will be returning in May.  None of these trips were part of a "tour" or a "dating campaign".

A lot of guys who do this behave very stupidly and for the most part I have very little sympathy when they yell scam.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2005, 07:26:00 AM by philb »

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« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2005, 07:34:03 AM »
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I did not mean to make light of the situation.  It is just that some of these "patterns" are ridiculously unbelievable.  I could not help but laugh. (the one about different hair colors in particular)

I think I have found her (Miss Right).  I made my first trip almost 4 years ago and have been to Russia or Ukraine a total of 9 times and will be returning in May.  None of these trips were part of a "tour" or a "dating campaign".

A lot of guys who do this behave very stupidly and for the most part I have very little sympathy when they yell scam.
Good luck in May then. And keep your fingers crossed. :)
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« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2005, 07:34:04 AM »
One more infamous red flag in addition to the different hair colors. She will be coming to visit me for a month this summer on a tourist visa.  She really can get a visa with out any problems. 
« Last Edit: April 03, 2005, 07:36:00 AM by philb »

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« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2005, 08:48:32 AM »
You RW really make me laugh today!
I laugh, then I cry, then I laugh.
Larisa's profile shows her with striped chestnut hair. Her more recent
snapshots have red hair. But, her business is..beauty. Nail stylist.
The list of warning signs doesn't help much. :shock::):shock:

Many of the warning signs, obviously can or cannot be a true
red flag. Let's make a short list.
1- She asks for beaucoup bucks (much money) for a tourist visa
    to your country.
2- She writes to Doug
3- She writes to Greg
4- She has written to Bruno or Goombah Kevin
5- But, seriously, the water is unclear, and the weather is foggy.    Doug

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« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2005, 08:51:41 AM »
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in fact I selected only most ridiculous patterns, but what I really have understood She is a scammer because she is alive


Kvinna, this morning I had enough coffee and can plainly see that you meant that after you check this entire list, there will be NO WOMEN who pass the test. Ha. I get it. :D     Doug

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« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2005, 12:12:53 PM »
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I just have found some more patterns on the site of well-known scammer and cheater Saul

if a woman has different hair color on different photos she is scammer!

My God... i was too busy today for read these post... if i have read it before, i was not become a scammer...

Today, i have cut my beard and hair... and i have cover my grey hair with black hair color... i am become a scammer...:D:D:D

 

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« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2005, 12:25:39 PM »
·  Each new photo is number sequentially (1.jpg, 2.jpg, 3.jpg, etc.)


Hey guys, i need your help... my digital camera is a scammer machine... do you know some other digital camera who don't use number... if use letter, please refert one who don't follow the alphabeth order... :D:D:D

And now, i need to find a other classification system for my own photo's :X

 

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