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Scenario: Girl's Profile is Stolen and Used in Scamming. Girl Asks for Profile to be Removed From Black List. Should it be Removed?

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In this scenario, a girl's profile is stolen by others and used in scamming activity.

Based on the scamming activity, the girl's profile is Black-Listed.

Girl (non-scammer) discovers her profile on a Black List and requests its removal from the Black List.

Scamming activity using the stolen profile continues.

Should the girl's profile be removed from the Black List?

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Re: Scam Sites Policy re: Removal of Stolen Girl's Profiles from Blacklist
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2007, 10:20:14 PM »
I think a girl's profile who was stolen and used for crime should remain but the anti-scam site should note that the photos and name were stolen and they should possess the real address and phone number of the girl without posting the info in case a man needs verification through e-mail if he's communicating with a scammer or the real woman.

If scammers learn real women's profiles will never be posted on anti-scam sites due to all anti-scam site's policies, it will promote them to steal more innocent women's profiles and it would hurt men too since they would never be able to Google and find the potential scammer warning pertaining to a real woman's name and profile.
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Re: Scam Sites Policy re: Removal of Stolen Girl's Profiles from Blacklist
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2007, 03:01:57 AM »
I would vote to remove the pictures, as they are not of a scammer, but to continue listing the name with a remark this was a stolen profile. Billy has a valuable point as far as the name is concerned, but the blacklist should make a clear distinction to avoid the girl losing the interest of sincere guys who happen to be a bit paranoid  ;)
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Re: Scam Sites Policy re: Removal of Stolen Girl's Profiles from Blacklist
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2007, 08:24:59 AM »
Yes, the profile of good woman accussed of being a scammer should be removed.

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Re: Scam Sites Policy re: Removal of Stolen Girl's Profiles from Blacklist
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2007, 09:38:31 AM »
I agree with BillyB's points, also considering that :

1. When looking for a suitable FSUW in agency portfolios, usually one is first attracted by photos ;).
2. Photos cannot be used (yet) to search automatically through anti-scam site databases or via Google (only names, addresses, etc.), which would NOT turn up the innocent girl's photos used by a scammer.
3. If one notices her stolen photos in the newsletters periodically issued by anti-scam sites, one would be naturally driven to read the corresponding profile, and the corresponding disclaimer about the photos. 

Therefore, I think that this approach, though probably unpleasant to her, would do little or no harm to the innocent girl, but more so to real scammers.
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Re: Scam Sites Policy re: Removal of Stolen Girl's Profiles from Blacklist
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2007, 12:19:29 PM »
If an honest womans profile and photo are stolen and used by a scammer, and the honest woman requests her name and photo be deleted from the sites it is a reasonalble request. However the scammer will most likley continue to use this womans profile. And then the process will most likely be repeated. So I think that the profile should remain in the site with notations that this is a real woman but being used by others and make sure the real owners phone number, address, email address is listed so that all other data should be recognized as false. Since most scammers change email addresses on  regular basis and most real women continue to use the same one for many years, it may be possible to notate that unless THIS email address is used all others are false.
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Re: Scam Sites Policy re: Removal of Stolen Girl's Profiles from Blacklist
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2007, 02:54:01 PM »
If she is a real woman she will object to have her address and phone number listed.
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Re: Scam Sites Policy re: Removal of Stolen Girl's Profiles from Blacklist
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2007, 03:30:39 PM »
Yes, the profile of good woman accussed of being a scammer should be removed.

Voted the same... and WOW! I agreed with Jack!!!!

Turn the table guys... what if your pic and profile showed up on antidate as a male scammer?  What would you want?


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Re: Scam Sites Policy re: Removal of Stolen Girl's Profiles from Blacklist
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2007, 09:00:26 AM »
Removing her profile is the only right thing to do.  It is akin to someone stealing one of my credit card #'s and charging it up illegally.  I should not be posted anywhere as a scammer.  The thief should be posted.  My kopecks worth. 
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Re: Scam Sites Policy re: Removal of Stolen Girl's Profiles from Blacklist
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2007, 11:52:31 AM »
How is a girl going to prove up that her profile was stolen in the first place? We are talking about not just the pictures but an entire profile?

She has avenues available to her in her own country to deal with this identity problem so if she shows that she utilized them- police reports, etc. then why not remove her? That is only fair.

If it is just because she says so and cant explain away what got her there, then leave her up.

As I say this, I had a similar situation a few years ago where a jilted boyfriend put up a woman on Elena's blacklist. Upon my request with a little bit of evidence, the woman was taken off.

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Re: Scam Sites Policy re: Removal of Stolen Girl's Profiles from Blacklist
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2007, 09:23:48 AM »

Turn the table guys... what if your pic and profile showed up on antidate as a male scammer?  What would you want?


I'd want antidate to leave my photos and profile up to prevent girls from getting hurt from the scammer using my pics. I don't want my private info such as e-mail and phone number listed but antidate could keep it so women could verify, through PM's, they would be writing to the real or false BillyB. My philosophy is the benefit of many outweigh the benefit of a few. We're only talking broken hearts and loss of money for men but if it were life and death matters, you better believe authorities would post an innocent person's pic if that's the image a scammer chooses to portray as a would be killer.

I see gross abuse of innocent women's pics and profiles if antiscam site's policies are not to post them. Scammers pick up on these things and identity theft will run rampant. The very women we want to protect will have their pics and profile abused by scammers on a larger scale.

If the agenda of antiscam sites is to right a wrong, then they should be noting to men, in these cases, that an innocent woman's pic and profile was stolen and to e-mail the antiscam site to get the real e-mail address to the woman. The innocent woman, to her benefit, will then have her e-mail distributed to the very men who want to correspond her. Also agencies could verify with anti-scam sites if the woman listed at their site is the real woman in a pic, leaving her profile posted to benefit the woman, or a scammer which needs to be removed to protect clients.
Fund the audits, spread the word and educate people, write your politicians and other elected officials. Stay active in the fight to save our country. Over 220 generals and admirals say we are in a fight for our survival like no other time since 1776.

 

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