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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #275 on: March 02, 2007, 11:56:33 AM »
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In talking with a woman about this issue, she thought it was great he was so open minded and wanted to date only much older women. I thought he actually was close minded and probably has issues where he really is searching for his mother.If he only likes ones much older what is the reason? Has he even tried dating women his age? Why is he not attracted to compatible age?

well to be honest ,, as the WOMAN you spoke to thought,,
they are compatable in ages, he likes older women, they like younger men
in that case its perfect capatability?
maybe he just LIKES older women, nothing more to it than that? things can be that simnple?
hey its a possibilty he has some mother fetish, but it certainly isnt a conclusion?
but agreed it aseems on the surface a bit odd..
but there are a lot of "odd" folks in the world,his attraction seems pretty harmmless.

why is this viewed so much differently than a man being attracted to a rather large bust,or a tall women or short women or blondes por brunnettes
does it always mean thiers some deeper issue?
where do you/we draw the line?

i have a buddy thats enamored of large breasts ,
it wouldnt matter anything about the woman at all.. her personalty, looks, everything else pales in comparison and isnt relevent to him...
is that not just as odd and just as hampering in his life by narrow mindedness?
but many would view this as not that far out, and somewhat  typical
of a man.LOL
and if its adeeper issue? what the issue?
and isnt it as strange as a hand or  fetish? but by society it isnt viewed that way..
 
any way the line is drwn by what?

 societies "norms" ?
and just who defines those? is thier a bulletion on the post office somewhere?  ;D
or a memo your friend did not get cc'ed on?   :D


for example pamale anderson is a goddess at least physically to many men.
shes not my type at all. at all.
so i'm out of the societal norm right?

but perhapos  because my *type*
 is more penelope cruz, brigette fonda, courtney cox, sandra bulluck, and mmmm claire forlani :o

and  since, while different than blond buxom bombshell ,
 they are still within the societal "norm" of accepotable beauties..
i'm alright and dont need to see a psycharitrist afterall? fantastic.

see how silly all this gets quickly?  

your buddy likes older women..
some like  more voluptious women, some like model thin..

women have individiualistic tastes as well..

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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #276 on: March 02, 2007, 12:13:49 PM »

Olga,   Thanks for the comments.  You are sounding a bit like the energizer bunny. 

Turboguy,

If somebody looks at my thoughts from his/her position and tries to give the explanation of my thoughts and sense of my statements again from his/her own position  I will be the "energizer bunny". What is wrong with it?

Olga. 



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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #277 on: March 02, 2007, 12:18:27 PM »
AJ,

 Most of us think you 've needed a good therapist for years now... ;D

 Actually excellent points. I saw a Playboy years ago where they showed Pam Anderson from her college days. She was a real beauty then. Brown hair, no fake lips or boobs. A genuine girl who fit much more into your choices. She turned into (my opinion only so no flames please) what I would call a "skank". I wouldn't touch her with a 20 foot pole.

Beauty is from the inside pouring out through the person.

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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #278 on: March 02, 2007, 12:26:55 PM »
'Simon who is about like jb.'

It is funny how so many grumpy Brit celebrities get mega-buck deals on US TV: Simon Cowell and Ann from weakest link are obvious examples.
I have yet to see an American cleb getting to do his/her show in UK.Maybe the British don't have money to pay them but somehow the Americans can only produce sitcoms.

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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #279 on: March 02, 2007, 12:48:45 PM »
Liking older women is not a problem. Liking only someone old enough to be your parent is. Why do you need a spouse who represents parent more than peer? That is why I said "I am not a therapist". But we do know of Freud's Oedipus complex. :)
« Last Edit: March 02, 2007, 01:01:11 PM by mspanky »

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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #280 on: March 02, 2007, 01:25:31 PM »
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   Glad to hear you were a fellow singer : soprano or contralto ?         

I am soprano:)


You know why do not you understand that there are women and women , some want only career and money and some want to be mothers to be loving wives , of course to work and to support their families too , but they are mostly oriented for home, kids arranging cosy things helping and supporting her husband

It is just  comes from the family, I was brought up in complete family I have dad and mom and they are still together and they are probably younger than some of people here and they just are lucky to be out of this internet dating, age gaps and all these mess which is rotating in this World

Understand me correctly I am not judging anyone here , I like the forum I like different opinions and that people are not scared to tell what they think and it is a wonderful debating sometimes from which I can get something informative 

Just  young  appearance beauty of woman fades away ,  her inside beauty always stays , men are the same their beauty fades away but this kind hearted beauty honour always stays . I already noticed that here are almost all the couples with huge gaps between men and women , I probably even do not suit to your community at all as my boy is my age ,  just I admit at first sometime ago I judged such people  but with time I could partially understand  them, but again it should be in balance

To Aj

also wanted to add things about models well I am not generalizing them , just it is rarely you 'll find model girl cooking in the kitchen for her kids and hubby , those models usually have servants to do so

and you are wrong men are different , some cares for body appearance some cares but not that much as you do



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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #281 on: March 02, 2007, 01:29:22 PM »
Oy sorry Aj ahhaha I posted that thing to the wrong topic ahahha I am confusing hahahah I am sorry really that was to Russian girls topic

you guys just cofused everybody with your scandals:)) and finding who is who:P

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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #282 on: March 02, 2007, 01:43:15 PM »


Beauty is from the inside pouring out through the person.

Ken

The success of a good relationship depends not from physical beauty, age and rewarding of persons but from the moral and ethical principles of both sides.

Olga.

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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #283 on: March 02, 2007, 02:17:53 PM »

you guys just of course everybody with your scandals:)) and finding who is who:P

Jazzy,

for me it is not a scandals  :) We just share our views on life and of course we can have diference of opinion  :)

Jazzy, ask your American boyfriend why he has chosen you from other girls I'm not sure that his answer will be - Because you, Jazzy, are my huge reward in perspective. I'm not sure that you look at your boyfriend like a Charitable fund or Investor-businessmen.

Maybe I am  mistaken...

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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #284 on: March 02, 2007, 02:40:28 PM »
I am soprano:)

Hummm, There is an HBO series part waiting for you Jazzy

Just  young  appearance beauty of woman fades away ,  her inside beauty always stays ,

I guess that is why making good choices is so critical.   Inner ugliness always stays too!
« Last Edit: March 02, 2007, 02:42:20 PM by Turboguy »

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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #285 on: March 02, 2007, 03:23:09 PM »
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   Jazzy, ask your American boyfriend why he has chosen you from other girls I'm not sure that his answer will be - Because you, Jazzy, are my huge reward in perspective. I'm not sure that you look at your boyfriend like a Charitable fund or Investor-businessmen.

Maybe I am  mistaken...
          

sure Olga , just your sharing of opinions is very aggressive sometimes and provoking , what can I say........

i do not look at my boyfriend as a charitable fund, we are not talking here about me and him and he is not American, his profession is completely different from what you and your husband are , we are both not rich - we are middle class people me and him:)

this your phrase Maybe I am mistaken , should be directed towards you:) absolutely  :) you keep telling that you are so genuine and the other women on this board  just can not be compared to what you are - so pure and so smart and amazingly just Goddess , for your Legal you are:)and that is perfect, but why is it so important for you to establish your cult among others here?

If you are so smart why do not you bring this discussion till the end?

« Last Edit: March 02, 2007, 03:36:41 PM by Jazzyclassy »

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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #286 on: March 02, 2007, 03:38:20 PM »
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and you are wrong men are different , some cares for body appearance some cares but not that much as you do

ahh JC i am often wrong,, just ask my wife!  ;D

as far as being wrong about men?
maybe there was a miscommunication ?
i never said they were the same?
in fact just like women ,they differ greatly??
I would completely agree with your statement about men being different from each other..


but i would disagre a bit about your a statement about me..lol
, wether you care to believe it or not,
most men care much more about a womans appearences than i do.

while like most men, i appreciate outward beauty,
a womans  character and personalty are far far more important to me,and i certainly know that the beauty of youth is fleeting..
and a lifetime together will see both partners grow old together and change and adapt.



In that post I was not stating my preferences,, or my own values?

I was simply using examples , and  pointing out you can't generalize a woman (or man)
as being "less " at something ,
 For example: cooking,
 simply because of thier outward appearences.
beautiful or not so attractive....

its kind of amusing that you state you are not generalizing about models , and in the same sentence state most model types have cooks? ;)

I will try and  make my thoughts on this  more clear?
while that appears on the surface to be a general sterotype that many would accept as accurate.

There are far more "model looking/model type " beautiful women, cooking dinner and caring for thier children in the world today , right this minute,
than those having cooks to prepare meals for them.

There are even far more actual employed working models,
that are cooking dinner right now ,
 than are having a "cook" employed by them to prepare thier meals.

that is much closer to reality.
so the stereotype is not accurate even though most people would accept or agree with it  

No i am not trying to make a point about models cooking or not cooking ;)
it is about stereotyping peoples abilties and values  on apperances.
 
Almost any stereotype based on physical apperence is silly when applied to an individual.
and far too often people base character ,and skills of a person,
 by thier appearance!
weither thier physical look, thier clothes or shoes..etc etc.

this may surprise you,
but perhaps no where in the world is this more common ,
than in the FSU.



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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #287 on: March 02, 2007, 03:38:41 PM »
just your sharing of opinions is very aggressive sometimes and provoking , what can I say........

Jazzy,

 I think many here would say the same thing about your posts.

 In the end isn't it really about the perception of what was posted? You take it one way, I take it another, another member takes it a completely different way.

 By continuing to jab at each other we are spending much less time trying to understand and learn and much, much more looking for ways to get in the last word.

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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #288 on: March 02, 2007, 03:47:18 PM »
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   In the end isn't it really about the perception of what was posted? You take it one way, I take it another, another member takes it a completely different way.

         

so what is wrong with my post,  I took Olga's recent posts like that ,

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By continuing to jab at each other we are spending much less time trying to understand and learn and much, much more looking for ways to get in the last word.


Why do not you try and say that to Olga:):) will be very interesting to hear what and how she will answer you:)

Her provoking character I noticed from the start and I knew she would keep trying for some of us to tell what she wants to hear finally:) what is wrong with that ,  I play my cards open , she allowed herself to post very doubtful statements and aggressive words, why am  I not allowed to defend myself?:P oh actually I do not care just makes me laugh sometimes in a strange way,

 People  who live in glass houses should not throw stones
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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #289 on: March 02, 2007, 04:00:54 PM »
Jazzy,

I need not compliments. I'm what I'm. Nobody is perfect in this World and I too. You are goddess for your boyfriend.
I'm glad that you understand the foundation of good relationship and I hope that you understand that it is not ethical to convert a personality and relationship of other people to money and it is not ethical and even silly to compare the unknown to us people. It is my position.

My opinions are very aggressive sometimes and provoking just for you and in your perception. Sometimes in your posts you  trample down the feelings of other people, people who are more older and experienced than you and you even don't notice how you do it.

Olga.
 


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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #290 on: March 02, 2007, 04:44:15 PM »
she allowed herself to post very doubtful statements and aggressive words, why am  I not allowed to defend myself

Jazzy
If she is I then let me ask you what are the aggressive words I  used :) Have I said you that you are stupid or crazy or any other such words?  :)

If you have to defend yourself from people it would be better to look inside yourself to find the reason why you have to defend yourself.

Olga.
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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #291 on: March 02, 2007, 08:40:57 PM »
To all the words being said just a little addition:
in general i understood position of vwrw but only after dozen of explanations, sometimes even corrections on her part. But what i consider to be unfair is comparing what's right for you and for others. Being 1 is good untill you don't see others as 0.5. And too many words about rewards, money bla-bla-bla and just a small "right woman" stands for love and commitment. Sure this woman is not materialistic ??? .
Богу - богово, кесарю - кесарево, слесарю - слесарево :)

Strangely this thread reminded me of another one - a woman posted that her husband is dying now home and she doesn't know how to apply for a second green card, in the end of her first post she asked if her getting married again would help. First reaction was shock. After a while and after many negative comments an author said that of course she was depressed, a bit insane - it's hard to think when your husband is screaming from pain in the next room etc. But the facts are that though being in such poor emotional state she first mentioned not this but possibility to remarry to obtain her plastic. She even posted the dates she came to the US and when she had her first interview. Of course some women started defending her - something like "poor woman, she should think of her and her daughter's future anyway, so why not to ask etc". It's all understandible - but the manner it was presented was at least non ethical . So i find some parallels here when the first words were the strongest in reflecting the way of thinking.
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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #292 on: March 02, 2007, 08:53:01 PM »
This thread was the good, the bad, and the ugly, but..
...what does it have to do with POTATO PANCAKES!!?

...food on the table...affection...good health...  to all.

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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #293 on: March 02, 2007, 09:06:39 PM »
You are making me hungry PG

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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #294 on: March 02, 2007, 11:34:55 PM »
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   Jazzy
If she is I then let me ask you what are the aggressive words I  used  Have I said you that you are stupid or crazy or any other such words?   

If you have to defend yourself from people it would be better to look inside yourself to find the reason why you have to defend yourself.

     

Dear Olga , leave it alone , let it go:)

I do not have to defend myself, we already understood your Majesty here:)))

relax , people just post what they think at that moment so , your posts  lighted up some contradictory thoughts

Maybe I am mistaken ,your words concerning me being not genuine  - read your post upper please:)))

It is absolutely in vain to talk with you about anything like that cos you will just press with you being mature and so smart and so wise - you are lucky to be so

So everything is great,

do not worry nobody is trying to compete with you Olga :))) if there will be such people I am sure you wont tolerate them very long:P

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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #295 on: March 03, 2007, 12:03:25 AM »
Jazzy,

How lovely!  :D Sometimes you talk like a child who has a grudge against whole World  :D I can even  picture how you pout your lips  :D


I know my mistakes and I know that life will change my attitude and I am trying to get rid of prejudice about some statements, but  again I should not make any excuses, that is my point of view , accept it as it is or just ignore it!



Olga.
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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #296 on: March 03, 2007, 12:04:35 AM »
I’ve read only few posts on this huge thread.. For some reason younger women almost always think that youth = beauty and .older women from their point of view always jealous because they’ve lost that precious commodity - youth. I was very surprised yesterday. I went for lunch with my workmates to restaurant where my son works. When he came home he told me that one of the waitress said to his mate who pointed out me to her “Wow! Slava’s mom is so beautiful!” Those of you who saw my picture know that I am quite average looking but I have to admit that to get such a compliment at the age of 41 was very pleasant. The fact that the girl who said that was barely 18 herself was the icing on the cake.

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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #297 on: March 03, 2007, 12:25:54 AM »
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   Jazzy,

How lovely!   Sometimes you talk like a child who has a grudge against whole World   I can even  picture how you pout your lips   


Quote from: Jazzyclassy on February 16, 2007, 07:21:17 AM

I know my mistakes and I know that life will change my attitude and I am trying to get rid of prejudice about some statements, but  again I should not make any excuses, that is my point of view , accept it as it is or just ignore it!




Olga.     


Well at least there is no anger ever:)

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Re: So IT IS the youth (and the beauty)
« Reply #298 on: March 03, 2007, 12:57:09 AM »
Hello,

  I really really really like JazzyClassy because she speaks her mind and is not afraid to learn. She is learning as she sleeps and when she awakens it's as if she was always awake because her heart is soooo healthy.

Makkin
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« Reply #299 on: March 03, 2007, 01:27:29 AM »
Makkin

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