Babe in Ukrainian politic

[Bruno]

It seem that beauty is a political weapon in Ukraine... do you know the ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko... she is already 44 year old but really a beauty... she will not have problem to charm political man from western country, take a look she is the woman in white :

For more , visit her website at

http://www.tymoshenko.com.ua/eng/index/

Of only for photo,

http://www.tymoshenko.com.ua/eng/photo/

Maybe one day, you will be able to see her in your US playboy :P:P:

In an earlier interview, given in 2001, she was asked whether she would prefer to make the front cover of Playboy, Time or the Ukrainian women's magazine Natalie.
Mrs Tymoshenko said Playboy would be "the best choice for any real woman".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4461169.stm

some other article :

- Yulia Tymoshenko: by style or beauty http://www2.pravda.com.ua/en/archive/2005/february/8/4.shtml

- Republican babe of the week : Yulia tymoshenko http://www.jerseygop.com/RepublicanBabes80.html

- http://www.astrologyweekly.com/natal-charts/yulia-tymoshenko.php

Hey guys, ... it is the best prove that old and beautifull is possible in Ukraine... next time you use a search engine in a marriage site, maybe you can use the top age range around 45 yo... this is the example of what you can miss when you search only young cutie... ;)

[Elen]

She is afraid to visit Russia because of her "black past":P She is still in the list "WANTED":P

[andrewfi]

SHe is a very scary woman.

Possibly the biggest benificiary of graft in the FSU. Wanted in Russia. Her former associate is in prison in the US on the same charges as the Russians raised against her and for the same reason.

A hugely manipulative woman. I looked at some of those pictures, this one is possibly the most indicative



The anachronistic hairstyle is not a reflection of her style sense, but a calculated hearkening to the good old days. Look at how she is 'giving' the people the religious image... That is not an accident.

[Bruno]

She is afraid to visit Russia because of her "black past":P She is still in the list "WANTED":P

Not more a problem since the 19 March... when Putin have visit her in Kiev...  Now, need to see if the justice in Russia is independant of gouverment ...

In all case, her "black past" is from the communist time... and in these time, all politic people was +/- corrupt... it seem now that she is fighting corruption in Ukraine... maybe she have enough experience for this

And it seem that with time, all charge can be removed against her, without know if these charge are true of not :?:cool:

14/04/2005 KIEV, Ukraine -- Prime Minister of Ukraine Yulia Tymoshenko was excluded from all search systems of Interpol. Thus, she cannot be arrested on the case, brought by the Senior Military Prosecutor's Office of Russia.

http://blog.kievukraine.info/2005/04/yulia-tymoshenko-excluded-from-all.html

Yulia Tymoshenko Will Help Russia Resolve Its "Embarrassing Situation"

http://www2.pravda.com.ua/en/archive/2005/march/9/news/15.shtml

Now, for the Russian one... do you find normal that military judge civilian ? What have to make law with army ? It seem that law, politic, religion, army are always mixed together... how the system can good work without separation of the different powers ?

[Elen]

Not more a problem since the 19 March... when Putin have visit her in Kiev...  Now, need to see if the justice in Russia is independant of gouverment ...

  Russian public prosecutor has another opinion , the actio is not closed yet because 100 millions $  of damge are big for forgiveness only for "krasivye glaski" (buautiful eyes" And it seems in this case Timoshenko trusts Ustinov's word more than to Putin's one (she did cansel her visit to Russia in april)

 

In all case, her "black past" is from the communist time... and in these time, all politic people was +/- corrupt... it seem now that she is fighting corruption in Ukraine... maybe she have enough experience for this

No Bruno HER black past is from "democratic" times when she started her "business' with import Russian gas to Ukraine in middle of 90s. (Wonder is it due to her activity Ukraina has now a reputation of gas "thief" in Russia:D)

Now, for the Russian one... do you find normal that military judge civilian ?

Have no wish to deal with military judge then don't bribe military men:P:P

 

[andrewfi]

Bruno,

Her graft occured in the last few years with the connivance and knowledge of the current president. Indeed, it was his own intervention that saved her from prosecution in Ukraine, preserving her wealth, even as one of her 'lovers' languished in gaol in the US, found guilty of the same kind of crimes as she (and he) we accused in Ukraine.

She is an impressive piece of work and it is certain that Yushchenko would not now hold his position without her, notwithstanding the influence of the CIA through his wife. I find myself wondering just how long it will be before she assumes the role she claimed for herself several years ago and supplants Yushchenko?

[Bruno]

Yep, politic is not always a easy and clean world...

I have more initiate these post for show that woman can be beautiful same older that 40 y.o. ... and i have hope some other reaction from the woman present of these forum... because something was really shocking in his own words about woman :

Mrs Tymoshenko said Playboy would be "the best choice for any real woman".

It mean that for her, a real woman is a woman who show his body to everyone...

Now, about his politic work ( and corruption )... i don't judge her... in some way, i don't trust any politic man... politic is a world make of lie...

[Elen]

and i have hope some other reaction from the woman present of these forum...

Really Bruno I wonder what did you hope to hear from one woman about other woman?:D

because something was really shocking in his (her??)  own words about woman :

she produces many "shoking" words because somethimes a lie in her words is just boundless 

And if you wanted to show how women could look fine after 40 then why didn't chose some wives of American's politic.? They all look very beautiful and have nothing in common with descriptions American males gave to their former wives at thids forum:D

 

[jb]

What really pisses off my wife about this woman is her arrogance.  She actually had a historical building bulldozed so she could have her new ritzy home in Crimea built on that location.

[andrewfi]

jb ~ I would suggest she is not arrogant. At least not in the terms that you and I would understand. This is a woman whose personal wealth was, around 7 years ago, equivalent to 10% of the GDP of Ukraine.

With this kind of wealth and concommitant power, arrogance is not needed, nor a part of the makeup. For her anything was possible, there was no need to think about it any more than for me to brush my teeth, perhaps less.

Arrogance implies a degree of consideration that just would not have been present!

[jb]

Andrew,

Perhaps you are correct, arrogance may not be the right word, but to bulldoze a 19th century summer house that was home to numerous well known and famose Russian literary figures for almost 100 years certainly takes gall.

[andrewfi]

It was not a criticism. People like her do not exist on the same plane of existance as you and I.

Well, at least not until the real world intrudes with a hefty thump.

This may sound strange, but I have a deal more respect for Kuchma than I do for this woman and those that stand with her.

[Bruno]

People like her do not exist on the same plane of existance as you and I.

Well, at least not until the real world intrudes with a hefty thump.

True... and this make her dangerous... money, charm, political power, corruption, ambition... several ukrainian people hate her, fear her... a beautiful "cobra"...

And imagine, several see her like a future president of Ukraine...

I find more news about her that about the previous and now president of Ukraine together...

In some way, she have pay his place of first minister : " She became one of the key players in Mr Yushchenko's government of 1999-2001, launching an all-out assault on the oligarchs' interests in Ukraine's highly corrupt energy sector.  As the result of her efforts, some $2bn were re-directed into the state budget. " http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4070663.stm

[groovlstk]

I don't care if this guy plays in a heavy metal band and looks like a viking, I will bet my last dollar that when he's around his mother-in-law, the words "yes mum, whatever you say" will be repeated ad infinitum.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4302644.stm

[Ste]

I don't care if this guy plays in a heavy metal band and looks like a viking, I will bet my last dollar that when he's around his mother-in-law, the words "yes mum, whatever you say" will be repeated ad infinitum.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4302644.stm

I never heard of this guy and I am totally into UK music scene. Not heavy metal tho....

Apparently he runs a market stall on Leeds Market so he's not exactly a 'Rok Zvezda'. also he has a police record (no, not Roxanne...), for belting his first wife, fracturing her upper jaw.

Still, apparently he's a nice man......

Ste, RWD UK Music Scene Correspondent and shît-hot lead guitarist (retired)

[acrzybear]

Apparently he runs a market stall on Leeds Market so he's not exactly a 'Rok Zvezda'. also he has a police record (no, not Roxanne...), for belting his first wife, fracturing her upper jaw.

Still, apparently he's a nice man......

Ste, RWD UK Music Scene Correspondent and shît-hot lead guitarist (retired)
[/quote]
With mum's rumoured connections I don't think this "gentlemen" would hit her daughter more then one time before we read about a 36 year old British rocker floating in the River Thames or the Black Sea or disappearing on a "camping"  trip.

[anono]

i'm in with andrew when it comes to this woman. she is so scary, i'm scared typing this sitting in kiev.

i met a woman who has been a waitress at a high end restaurant here in kiev. (surprise is the name) and she says all the government types, including yushencko and julia dine there as did kuchma. she says yushenko is "simple". julia is surrounded by security, who are tall and all dressed alike (by her). she is short and when they sit, it is in a huddle and you cannot even see her. maybe she's a bit paranoid?

she, in spite of her obvious past is hugely popular and may be the most popular and well liked politician in ukraine today. i do think the political faction she heads "regions of ukraine" or something like that, holds the majority seats in the rada.

you do not become a billionaire in this country without stealing most if not all of it.

[Bruno]

you do not become a billionaire in this country without stealing most if not all of it.

She have not steal a lot in ukraine... she is become billionaire by stealing russian oil... why do you think that russian have always a free place for her reserved in some jail :cool:

 

[andrewfi]

The Russians have dropped all charges against Tymoshenko. Her fortune came from her manipulation of the Ukrainian energy industry, speifically gas. At the time, Ukraine had little foreign exchange and energy supplies were paid for by barter, cash, or stock deals. She was able to arrange that UES benefitted excessivley from these deals, but it is unlikely that she 'stole' Russian oil. The Ukraine governemnt was, and is doing so anyway.

IIRC the Russian charges were in respect of money laundering, the same as her colleague and former lover, Pavel Lazarenko who is in prison in the US, und guilty of money laundering. Lazarenko and Tymoshenko were lovers and colleagues whilst he was Prime Minister of Ukraine.

[Bruno]

26/09/2005 :
MOSCOW -- Russian prosecutors said Monday they had canceled an arrest warrant for former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko after she appeared in Moscow over the weekend and was questioned.
Tymoshenko had been accused of bribing Russian defense officials while she headed Ukraine's main gas distributor, the now-defunct United Energy Systems. Tymoshenko has denied the Russian charges, saying they were politically motivated.
Russia's main military prosecutor's office canceled the international arrest warrant it had issued a year ago because Tymoshenko had provided investigators with necessary "explanations" over the weekend and agreed to show up for questioning in the future, the prosecutor-general's press service said in a brief statement.
Tymoshenko, who was ousted from the prime minister's job Sept. 8, had been protected by the immunity that all high officials enjoy. But after her ouster, she lost that immunity. There was no suggestion that her former ally, President Viktor Yushchenko, would consider handing over Tymoshenko, but her position, nevertheless, became more vulnerable.
Tymoshenko's spokesman, Petro Yakobchuk, said the former prime minister had been in Moscow Sunday and was questioned by prosecutors.
"Common sense prevailed over absurdity," said Valentyn Zubov, a lawmaker from Tymoshenko's parliamentary faction, of Russia's decision to cancel the arrest warrant. "All the accusations against Tymoshenko were groundless."
Zubov said that the Kremlin's attitude toward Tymoshenko had hurt the ethnic Russian population in Ukraine and damaged relations between Moscow and Kiev.
Tymoshenko did not travel to Russia during her seven months at the head of Ukraine's government - once canceling a planned visit earlier this year, a day after Russian prosecutors said they would not drop the charges, although they did say they would respect her immunity as an official.
At the time, she said the visit's cancellation was due to Yushchenko's order to all Ukrainian officials with responsibilities for agriculture to concentrate on the spring sowing campaign.
For many Ukrainians, Tymoshenko symbolized their "Orange Revolution," rallying hundreds of thousands in Kiev last year to denounce fraud by the former government in the presidential election and force a new vote, which Yushchenko won.

[anono]

Tymoshenko has denied the Russian charges, saying they were politically motivated

that's what they all say. recently the rada speaker, volodymyr lytvyn, was implicated in the death of a journalist (georgy gondadze) who was found wandering around just outside kiev looking for his head in 2000.

lytvyn says the commission's report (implicating him) is "a provocation aimed at diverting the attention from the real culprits".

[BradSTL]

No Bruno HER black past is from "democratic" times when she started her "business' with import Russian gas to Ukraine in middle of 90s. (Wonder is it due to her activity Ukraina has now a reputation of gas "thief" in Russia:D)

   You know Elen... I have often wondered this.  Did Tymo and all the business partners make money off natural gas futures that were actually written all the Russian natural gas stored in Ukraine?

Putin is a man of tolerance and patience... how he can meet these people and not unleash cuss words and other unseemly behavior in front of the TV cameras is AMAZING

[prince_alfie]

She seems to be somewhat shady to me. Ironically, Putin could win on the issue...

[beattledog]

Very well perserved and fine woman for her age.  If she was not married, I would consider going after her, but probably would have no chance.   fine, little filly. 

beattledog

[poseidon84]

she got my vote