Hello Mirror

[Makkin]

Hello Sofia,

  Yes we have the therapist here but usually they are not doctors as they are specifically trained for therapy. Therapist here is someone who trains without medical school but may have a university degree. They can vary in what types of therapy they do but they do not have the ability to give medicine just do therapy.

  The ability to work here as a doctor depends of English and how fluent you are? Then it depends on the skills you have and if your skills can pass the American standard tests for the needed requirements to be certified. It's not easy as you might know and sometimes you must take classes or cram a lot of study to fill the required needs of being certified. You could do it but task one would be to get to theUSA?

  My work involves sales and that type of thing but it's not glamorous and I'm not rich..lol...If I had another fifty dollars I'd have 100 dollars and if I did an exchange rate in London then I'd be back to fifty or less..lol Money is something I don't worry about for many reasons but I know I'm lucky to be that way. I feel that love,family,country,and a host of other things go before money in my mind.

  Please feel free to ask any medical questions you like as I am able to find the answers easily enough and can direct you to a member here who is a doctor. "Mir" is on these boards and can help with the technical questions as he has always been very helpful to members.

  What are you immediate plans now that you and Wiz have seperated ways? Do you feel as if you two will get back together? I hope this set of questions does not upset you? I am fond of his writings and he seems like a pretty down to earth man to me?

Thanks,

Makkin

 

 

[mirror]

Hello Sofia,

  Yes we have the therapist here but usually they are not doctors as they are specifically trained for therapy.
Therapist here is someone who trains without medical school but may have a university degree. They can vary in what types of therapy they do but they do not have the ability to give medicine just do therapy.

It is different thing than we have in Russia.All our doctors have medical diplomas.And all they can give a prescriptionsBut it is not neccesary sometimes people can buy medicines in a farmacy without any prescriptions.

  The ability to work here as a doctor depends of English and how fluent you are? Then it depends on the skills you have and if your skills can pass the American standard tests for the needed requirements to be certified. It's not easy as you might know and sometimes you must take classes or cram a lot of study to fill the required needs of being certified. You could do it but task one would be to get to theUSA?

Yes, it is similar like in the UK. First I need to improve my english from my 2-3th level untill 7th.Then I must pass a professional exam.My american friend said me that many american hospitals need a medical stuff and can invite foreign doctors to work and can give a job after some tests.I don't know is it true or not.

  My work involves sales and that type of thing but it's not glamorous and I'm not rich..lol...If I had another fifty dollars I'd have 100 dollars and if I did an exchange rate in London then I'd be back to fifty or less..lol Money is something I don't worry about for many reasons but I know I'm lucky to be that way. I feel that love,family,country,and a host of other things go before money in my mind.

Ok.I am sure you think about financial side too because if you want to have family you need to think more about that. I hope I am right to say a family life needs more money than lonely life.  If you are not agree...no problem.

  Please feel free to ask any medical questions you like as I am able to find the answers easily enough and can direct you to a member here who is a doctor. "Mir" is on these boards and can help with the technical questions as he has always been very helpful to members.

I know Mir is a doctor. He lives in the UK. I know much about doctors in the UK myself.I had a chance to be there and knew everything from first hands.Now I am interested to know more about USA.

What are you immediate plans now that you and Wiz have seperated ways? Do you feel as if you two will get back together? I hope this set of questions does not upset you? I am fond of his writings and he seems like a pretty down to earth man to me?

Now we are separated. We can not understand each other . I can communicate with him but I find it very difficult.Not more about us ..pls,OK? I have a communication with one american man but I think it is not perspective to us.In present time I created few profiles in some dating sites and I try to find someone special like we love to say  .What about your girls from Ukraine and Chesh republic? 

Thanks,

Sofia
 

 

[SANDRO43]

Sofia, a few years ago I was corresponding/chatting with a woman in St. Petersburg (assistant/secretary to the General Manager of a local shipyard). One winter day she told me she had great trouble with a stiff neck, had got a rub with a smelly substance from their toilet attendant that had not improved her condition at all, and was feeling very uncomfortable and awkward at the office.  I suggested her to take a couple of days off work on sick leave, since rest and warmth could probably ease her condition. She replied that she could only
get sick leave if she had a high temperature running and called an ambulance or some emergency service that would certify her condition. Is this still true ?   

[mirror]

Sofia, a few years ago I was corresponding/chatting with a woman in St. Petersburg (assistant/secretary to the General Manager of a local shipyard). One winter day she told me she had great trouble with a stiff neck, had got a rub with a smelly substance from their toilet attendant that had not improved her condition at all, and was feeling very uncomfortable and awkward at the office.  I suggested her to take a couple of days off work on sick leave, since rest and warmth could probably ease her condition. She replied that she could only
get sick leave if she had a high temperature running and called an ambulance or some emergency service that would certify her condition. Is this still true ?   

No, no, of course no.She can go to visit therapist or neurologist and ask "sick paper" ( I don't know how to name at english language) .Therapist (neurologist) can give a possibility to rest for 3 days, to treat and to pass analises.Then if she will feel not healthy a doctor can continue "sick paper", iy depends of sickness.

These doctors can not ignore her sickness ( not only high temperature, emergency...). But of course a doctor can check her sickness and can decide she can work or not.

You can ask me about homeopathical treatment too.I am not only therapist ...I am a doctor of homeopathy too. 

Sofia

[Bruno]

You can ask me about homeopathical treatment too.I am not only therapist ...I am a doctor of homeopathy too. 

Ok, can you explain me how a solution without any active molecule, only with the the diluent (water, alcohol or sugar) can have a medical effect... The few positive result proved have a rate similar to the placebo effect... How a real doctor like you can explain me the healing mecanism of the homeopathy product ?

[ScottinCrimea]

ScottinCrimea,

for whom this question?

mirror, this is the question and the answer.

[SANDRO43]

Ok, can you explain me how a solution without any active molecule...

Bruno, some active molecule IS present, albeit in extremely diluted concentrations : as the name implies ("similar pain"), the theory is that the same substance that caused the complaint will cure it, when administered in minute doses.

Current thinking in clinical circles (not totally objective bystanders, in many cases, however ), is that if ever it works, it may be due to a psychosomatic reaction (belief in its effectiveness). Which, in itself, should not be dismissed too hastily, as "miracle" recoveries still seem to happen, with no scientifically-convincing explanation.

A very recent report issued here by a panel of medical authorities, appointed by our Ministry of Health, dismissed it as having no scientifically-provable basis, along with acupuncture, moxibustion, and other alternative-medicine methods that were gaining increasing popularity.

[mirror]

Ok, can you explain me how a solution without any active molecule, only with the the diluent (water, alcohol or sugar) can have a medical effect... The few positive result proved have a rate similar to the placebo effect... How a real doctor like you can explain me the healing mecanism of the homeopathy product ?

I am not scientist...sorry...I (like a practicioner) can see positive effects in many cases.For me it is not important how.If my patient can loose weight only after taking homeopathical medicines it is enough to me to believe.It can be a big imagination of my patients,  a placebo effect or something else. I can say more I believe some people can have extrasensitive abilities.

And I know in which cases I can give this medicines and in which cases I must not.

Homeopathy  not only my profession, it is my hobby too. 

[mirror]

Bruno, some active molecule IS present, albeit in extremely diluted concentrations : as the name implies ("similar pain"), the theory is that the same substance that caused the complaint will cure it, when administered in minute doses.

Current thinking in clinical circles (not totally objective bystanders, in many cases, however ), is that if ever it works, it may be due to a psychosomatic reaction (belief in its effectiveness). Which, in itself, should not be dismissed too hastily, as "miracle" recoveries still seem to happen, with no scientifically-convincing explanation.

A very recent report issued here by a panel of medical authorities, appointed by our Ministry of Health, dismissed it as having no scientifically-provable basis, along with acupuncture, moxibustion, and other alternative-medicine methods that were gaining increasing popularity.

OH!! I use acupuncture, moxibustion in my practice too. And I can say it works too! 

[Makkin]

Hello,

  Okay I apologize and will not mention the past relationships of yourself and Wiz.

  I have a friendly meeting on a regular basis with my friend from Czech Republic and she is a very warm and caring person. I really like her a lot but you know it takes a long time to really get to know a person and as far we have only met on the internet. I would really like to meet her in person.
  No women for me in Ukraine but I am talking with one lady who I have just met recently and she seems very nice....In actuality I've yet to meet in person either of these ladies so I am what you might call a dry dater with these two..lol

  No...I have never had a profile listed on web sites...well maybe once but was a while back...hmmm...can't remember now..lol...Anyway I have not really put myself out there on the dating scene but realize now it's good to talk with someone for a decent amount of time and then go on and meet them in person.

  I suppose I'm like most of the men here and am attracted to the eastern european women and have interest in finding the right one. Is too bad that it's so expensive to do and one is constantly reminded of how precise and accurate you must be in this process...Surely there is a point when your heart has to decide?

Makkin

 

[Bruno]

Bruno, some active molecule IS present, albeit in extremely diluted concentrations

Yep, you are right :

Usual solution are 30C solution ( dilution by a factor of 100e30 = 10e60 )... let see for a 15C solution...

"As Avogadro's number is only 6.02 × 10e23 particles/mole, the chance of any molecule of the original substance being present in a 15C solution is small, and it is extremely unlikely that one molecule of the original solution would be present in a 30C dilution. For a perspective on these numbers, there are in the order of 10e32 molecules of water in an Olympic size swimming pool; to expect to get one molecule of a 15C solution, one would need to take 1% of the volume of such a pool, or roughly 25 metric tons of water."

And when i see prize of homeopathic product, i find it very high for some water, sugar of alcohol... About prize, i have the same problem with herborist... one day, my ex-russian wife have come back from Holland where she have consult a herborist... and buy 3 little bottle of 5cl at 50 euro... when i have check what was the product, i have become mad... it was Urtica Doica... a plant that you can find everywhere, with all these i remove at my work, i will be able to make several 100 liter year... yes, maybe i need to start a business 

Mirror wrote :

I am not scientist...sorry...

Not scientist  and you are doctor... here a doctor at the college level have follow the science way... biologie, chimie and physic... at the university level, a lot of science is studied... Biologie is linked to chimie... our body work because of chimic reaction...

Ok, no need to say more... i know that i will never be one of your patient 

[mirror]

Ok, no need to say more... i know that i will never be one of your patient 

...not big loss for me.

[mirror]

Yep, you are right :

Usual solution are 30C solution ( dilution by a factor of 100e30 = 10e60 )... let see for a 15C solution...

"As Avogadro's number is only 6.02 × 10e23 particles/mole, the chance of any molecule of the original substance being present in a 15C solution is small, and it is extremely unlikely that one molecule of the original solution would be present in a 30C dilution. For a perspective on these numbers, there are in the order of 10e32 molecules of water in an Olympic size swimming pool; to expect to get one molecule of a 15C solution, one would need to take 1% of the volume of such a pool, or roughly 25 metric tons of water."

And when i see prize of homeopathic product, i find it very high for some water, sugar of alcohol... About prize, i have the same problem with herborist... one day, my ex-russian wife have come back from Holland where she have consult a herborist... and buy 3 little bottle of 5cl at 50 euro... when i have check what was the product, i have become mad... it was Urtica Doica... a plant that you can find everywhere, with all these i remove at my work, i will be able to make several 100 liter year... yes, maybe i need to start a business 

Mirror wrote :
Not scientist  and you are doctor... here a doctor at the college level have follow the science way... biologie, chimie and physic... at the university level, a lot of science is studied... Biologie is linked to chimie... our body work because of chimic reaction...

Ok, no need to say more... i know that i will never be one of your patient 

Ok, Bruno

despite of I don't see reason to answer at your this message but I returned again to here. Of course I know more about homeopathical technology than you know. When you described a method of solution you lost one very important thing. ...dinamisation.You can find this word in the internet and to know more about that if you are interested ( really I think you are not interested).

I can say also that homeopathical medicine can treats people with allergy..it is very important too. 

smile 

[Bruno]

When you described a method of solution you lost one very important thing. ...dinamisation.You can find this word in the internet and to know more about that if you are interested ( really I think you are not interested).

First, don't think for me... i am interested by everything...

Let see :

The most characteristic and controversial principle of homeopathy is that the potency of a remedy can be enhanced (and the side-effects diminished) by dilution, in a procedure known as dynamization or potentization. Liquids are progressively diluted (with water, or alcohol) and shaken by ten hard strikes against an elastic body (succussion).

Hmmm... so, the barman from my usual cafe is a homeophatic doctor... he mix some ingredient, add alcohol and shake... there, result is called a coktail... lucky for me, the dilution is not so high that in homeopatic product and price are lower... 

Thus, even homeopathic remedies of a high "potency" contain, with overwhelming probability, only water. Practitioners of homeopathy believe that this water retains some 'essential property' of one of the substances that it has contacted in the past.

Water will have been in contact with millions of different substances in its history. According to this molecular paradigm, any glass of water must be regarded as an extreme dilution of almost any agent you care to mention. Thus, critics argue that by drinking water one receives homeopathic treatment for every imaginable condition

Mirror, can you post any link who show with scientific evidence, with double blinded test that homeopathy is really something working, something not related to the Placenbo effect, the Forer effect and the regression fallacy.

despite of I don't see reason to answer at your this message but I returned again to here.

Don't need to reply to these until you can prove me that homeopathy is something working...

[mirror]

First, don't think for me... i am interested by everything...

Let see :
Hmmm... so, the barman from my usual cafe is a homeophatic doctor... he mix some ingredient, add alcohol and shake... there, result is called a coktail... lucky for me, the dilution is not so high that in homeopatic product and price are lower... 

It is different  things.

Mirror, can you post any link who show with scientific evidence, with double blinded test that homeopathy is really something working, something not related to the Placenbo effect, the Forer effect and the regression fallacy.

Don't need to reply to these until you can prove me that homeopathy is something working...

Don't try catch me...you know it is impossible. Our science can not prove that in present time. If you know what is it crystallography you can find some information about a memory of water in the internet. And I hope you know how a positive energy ( for example prayers) can change structure of water and give water extra positive ( medical) power.

I think homeopathical medicines can have some electromagnetic power. Alcohol can save this power very long time. If you shake your coktail all powers into your glass can be dinamised ( I mean wrong and good powers). Remember that and don't let anyone to shake your coktail !

smile

[Bruno]

Don't try catch me...you know it is impossible. Our science can not prove that in present time.

So science cannot prove that Homeopathy work... and it is not possible to prove it in other way... So, these homeopathic doctor sell product at very high price but they are not sure that it wil work... I call these people : thief...

If you know what is it crystallography you can find some information about a memory of water in the internet.

Crystallography have nothing to make with memory of water... but if you can prove the memory of water, you can become very rich...

James Randi placed a $1 million challenge to the BBC Horizon team to prove the "water memory" theory.

One have try before... http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2002/homeopathytrans.shtml ... but she was not lucky... maybe you ? $1 million will be better that a WM...

And I hope you know how a positive energy ( for example prayers) can change structure of water and give water extra positive ( medical) power.

Water is H2O... change the structure and it become something other that water... ohhhh... i see... you refert to the new testament, when Jesus have change water in wine... today, i have fill my bad with water... pray, pray a lot... and spring in the bad... but it was not wine  ... but you are right... with time, the color of water have change... yes, it was a lot of dust at the work today...

Don't worry Sofia... American seek the proof... the FBI Special Agent Fox Mulder will contact you soon... you will receive a free T-shirt with "I believe" written on it...

For the supernatural, you can find the evidence there : http://www.eztvefnet.org/index.php?main=show&id=192

 

[Makkin]

Hello,

  Just a note pertaining to James Randi who is also known as "The Amazing Randi". I have met him and he tries to de-bunk everyone and everything..lol

  He does not guarantee the money either..lol He just says he has the money..He refuses to use a board of people and let the money sit in a neautral account for anything..lol Is as if he wants attention?

Makkin

[mirror]

Water is H2O... change the structure and it become something other that water... ohhhh... i see... you refert to the new testament, when Jesus have change water in wine... today, i have fill my bad with water... pray, pray a lot... and spring in the bad... but it was not wine  ... but you are right... with time, the color of water have change... yes, it was a lot of dust at the work today...

Do you know what is it hard water?

Don't worry Sofia... American seek the proof... the FBI Special Agent Fox Mulder will contact you soon... you will receive a free T-shirt with "I believe" written on it...

 

For the supernatural, you can find the evidence there : http://www.eztvefnet.org/index.php?main=show&id=192

 

[Rvrwind]

Bruno...kinda reminds of my wife. She throws a fit everytime I use the microwave & don't unplug it when I am finished. All them little microwaves leaking into our living space & all. I still don't unplug it just to hear her explanation & proof. And I still ROTFLMFAO everytime she presents her facts. Which ain't facts or proof but that some fool somewhere sometime in Russia swore it was true so according to Russian logic, if there is such a thing, it must be true. Doesn't matter how much scientific proof I can come up with that positively shows otherwise, it wasn't a Russian so it can't be right!!! TFF
Sofia, if you believe that crap really works, you go right on taking it & when your on your deathbed we'll ask you if you want real medicine or the phoney crap you been taking for years. Bet I know what your answer will be.
Homeopathy is for nut bars. Ever heard of Jim Jones, well, he led the sheep to paradise too, just like Jesus, except he killed them all, or at least most of them. Yep those old wives tales keep getting older & better, TFF.
"water memory" now that one realy kills me. First time I heard of it & I cannot believe that any intelligent person would even consider that that is possible, Sheeesh.
Here's yer sign.....

[Kuna]

Sofia, if you believe that crap really works, you go right on taking it & when your on your deathbed we'll ask you if you want real medicine or the phoney crap you been taking for years. Bet I know what your answer will be.
Homeopathy is for nut bars.

Rvrwnd,

She aint TAKING it... she's practicing it... AS she said earlier - it's not only her job, it's her hobby.

[Bruno]

Do you know what is it hard water?

Yep, my washing machine always complain about it... specialy the electrical heating elements part of the machine are complaining...

And hard water reduce the life... of my toilet flushing units 

"water memory" now that one realy kills me. First time I heard of it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_memory

Homeopathy is for nut bars.

Not really... in some way, it make some effect on the believers... but if you give them sugar or water, the result will be the same... it is simply the power of the mind on the body... when you have some illness, the body produce a stress hormone... it is the alarm... a needed biological function... but the repair are difficult when the alarm continue to ring... when believer take homeophatic product, it reduce the level of stress hormone and help to a better repair... Very similar to the placenbo effect... and this, science explain it...

One of the stress hormone is Cortisol. Cortisol is produced by the adrenal cortex that is involved in the response to stress; it increases blood pressure, blood sugar levels, may cause infertility in women, and suppresses the immune system. The last effect is the real problem :

Cortisol prevents proliferation of T-cells by rendering the interleukin-2 producer T-cells unresponsive to interleukin-1 (IL-1), and unable to produce the T-cell growth factor. It reflects leukocyte redistribution to lymph nodes, bone marrow, and skin.

A other negative effect is when you broke bone :

It lowers bone formation. Cortisol moves potassium out of cells in exchange for an equal number of sodium ions. This can cause a major problem with the hyperkalemia of metabolic shock from surgery.

A other stress hormone is Norepinephrine... Very bad for Richard by example :

It is released from the medulla of the adrenal glands as a hormone into the blood. It will increase systolic and diastolic pressure, causing compensatory vagal reflex, which overcomes its direct cardioaccelerator action. Therefore, it will cause reflex bradycardia in patient.

So, same if Homeopathy have not direct chimical effect on the body, believing in it and use it help to reduce the stress level and help for a faster healing.

What i have wrote up was the type of reply i was waiting from Sofia who is a doctor... and not some supernatural and obscure comment like she have wrote.

A other example is hypnosis in hospital environnement... work on some people and don't work on some other... usually, these who believe in it are more receptif... used in Belgium for operation without anesthetics ( after having test if the patent is receptif to hypnosis ).

For lower the stress level, in Belgium hospital, we have clown... have almost the same effect that homeopathy... So, if Sofia marry a Belgium man, she will be able to work in Hospital... She simply need to take her big shoes and red nose 

Sofia, i am not against you... but against all these charlatan who say that they are doctor and use some magic for heal... i have know first hand so practice... when i was married to a Russian woman... her daughter was ill... she have receive drugs from doctor but the ex-wife have consult so Russian doctor in the city ( not official one, with illegal practice )... result was my ex-wife stopping the doctor treatment... 3 days after, the child was send urgently to hospital... in intensive care during two week, between life and dead... so, i have my personal reason to be septical to doctor who speak about supernatural !!!

PS: I am not a doctor... but i am not really a gardener too... my knowledge of plant is more related to the job of Herborist... not reconize in Belgium but in Holland... a few year ago, i have start my own book over the medical side of plant ( not yet finish )... if you wish, i can forward it to you ( but you need learn Dutch before )... at the difference of a lot of "sorcer" book, a bio-chimical analyse is make for each plant... and all the first part is related to several body cyclus, to molecular biologie, etc...

EDIT : for the curious... and these who don't believe me... the title/intro pages http://www.love-from-russia.be/Title.pdf and one plant pages http://www.love-from-russia.be/Sambucus_Nigra.pdf ... a total of 300 pages in 5 year... Hmmm, i am very slow... and since i wish make around 1000 pages, it can maybe be finish in 10 year  ...

[mirror]

but against all these charlatan who say that they are doctor and use some magic for heal... i have know first hand so practice... when i was married to a Russian woman... her daughter was ill... she have receive drugs from doctor but the ex-wife have consult so Russian doctor in the city ( not official one, with illegal practice )... result was my ex-wife stopping the doctor treatment... 3 days after, the child was send urgently to hospital... in intensive care during two week, between life and dead... so, i have my personal reason to be septical to doctor who speak about supernatural !!!

this case is realy sad case. I feel sorry for her. But I have a official license for practice and I don't think this illegal "doctor" was right.

In Russia only practical doctors can use this method and of course a health and a life of patient is the most important.

For example when I treat some patients with some patology I  recomend to pass some analises and to go to specialist first ( maybe not to one specialist).We name that specialist's group consultation.Only after that I can be sure I can help or I can not. I keep this way always and I know this way is right for me and for patients.

I am able to see a dangerous situation and I know what to do.

I agree with you some people can be charlatan and it is VERY BAD

Now I could understand why you were so sarcastic.

Thank you.

[wiz]

Bruno

I do not take sides in this discussion but has it occur to you that luck of fluency in English language may prevent mirror to give you comprehensive answers?

 

[Makkin]

Hello Sofia,

  You are a doctor and of course you have been educated in your field to practice medicine. You should be proud that you have accomplished this high educational status and also that you help people.
  Learning another language is not easy and you seem to have learned a lot so far. I bet you will learn a whole lot more and will be very fluent soon. I'm wondering how hard it would be for me to learn Russian and be as fluent as you are already?
 
  I've been busy lately and have missed writing here on this thread but I wish you well in all you do and hope your English learning goes well.

Makkin
 

[mirror]

For lower the stress level, in Belgium hospital, we have clown... have almost the same effect that homeopathy... So, if Sofia marry a Belgium man, she will be able to work in Hospital... She simply need to take her big shoes and red nose 

...no, no, it is not only because of my poor English. Bruno tried to show his unrespect to homeopathy and personaly to me. I am able to understand that. He has shown his attitude.

My point of view is: I respect even a clown who tries to give  little happines to the sick children. My view is even a clown  with red nose and big shoes can be more charitable  than someone very powerful man.

Thank you, Wiz and Makkin