International Womens Day

[Mamma D]

Plan for it and make her heart sing .....It is so special to our ladies.

Mamma D    

[Bruno]

Not so special... when i have ask at Galina ( Ukrainian woman ) about this before, she have reply :

" As for a holiday 8 March, I don't think it's men's favorite one in my country. We even write anecdotes about it. In general everything depends on relations between a man and woman. If the relations are harmonic then the holiday isn't a problem and the woman doesn't ask the man to be like a woman at that day. But if the whole year you can't listen a nice word from your beloved man that at that day you may demand anything. To be short even if it's our national holiday each family celebrates it in different ways probably there are families where they don't celebrate it at all.

There is another problem in relations - promises, how it's easy to give them but how it's difficult to do. I've recently talked to my friend about it. I'm a person who judges people not because of their words but because of their acts. That's why your points of view according to people relations impress me. if a man always says about his love but does nothing and doesn't help I'll understand that these words are empty and he feels nothing. But if a man pays attention to me, I feel his support, understanding and help then I'll need any words."

In short, it is not important to make something special these day ( some little flower are enough )... try to be good with your woman each other day of the year... they will appreciate it.

[Mamma D]

Well... you had better  do a whole lot better if you want to keep a fine Russian lady! This is HER DAY....

DAYS left until Valentines Day (February 14):         17
DAYS left until International Woman's Day (March :  39

Mamma D

[Bruno]

These special days are for people who don't take care of woman the rest of year... make a lot for these special day and the rest of year in sofa reading newspaper when woman make all the work home...

I help in kitchen, i help clean home, i help with laufry, i help to take care of children... and not only one day in the year... all the year...

This allow us to have more free time together and enjoy of the life... i don't need a slave home but a wife...

And i can say that russian woman are happy when man help home... and they reward your help with a lot of love...

[anono]

ok..  i understand you bruno but this is from a different angle...

what would you do (or what does your RW think) if you have a number of ladies you are writing to but have not met and want to send a select few something. would you chose valentine's day or international women's day if you did not want to do both?

i have been told that valentines day is not as big as international women's day (yet) in ukraine and russia. anyone have any useful information?

 

[Mamma D]

Well... Dick would be sleeping in the Doghouse if he forgets....... and they don't even have a dog....

Mamma D

[Bruno]

In our country, valentines day and the international women's day are not official holiday... but in Russia the 8 March is official holiday... and a very big one ...


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Official "Women's Day" is 8 March. On this day men give women gifts, usually flowers. Men also are supposed to do all the housework, this is pretty nice - at least once a year women can take a break and forget about all those dishes, cooking, kids, take a magazine and relax on the coach...


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[anono]

great board! ask for a little useful information and look what happens...

[Elen]

i have been told that valentines day is not as big as international women's day (yet) in ukraine and russia. anyone have any useful information?

Valentinies day is a "new" holiday for the FSU. People just didn't use to it yet. And I doubt it will happen because it's too close to the other two holiday Feb 23 and March 8, celebrated in Russia . One more day when you're supposed to give gifts is a "surplus".

 Mostly V-day is marked by the youth. More older people don't notice it at all.

 March, 8 is another case.  I wouldn't want to be at your place, males, if you decided to "ignore" this day:D

[ConnerVT]

I have to back Elen on this one.  Ignore this day at your own risk.

If your woman is anything like my wife, she will not only put significance on March 8, but on the many anniversaries of your relationship.  Men may forget, but women remember everything (even when their recollection tends to change over time )  My wife even reminds me of the anniversary of the day I proposed to her, and the date she arrived in the US.  Now, I don't need to have gifts for all of these days, but it helps if I act as I remember.

As for Woman's Day, I am fortunate to combine this date with another milestone in my life -- it is the day my wife and I met!  :cool:

[Turboguy]

If Russian women and American women are anything alike that is the biggest problem with women.   They NEVER forget.   Don't send flowers for one Woman's day and you will hear about it for 20 years even if you did send them the next 19.   I was hoping to get away with the valentines flowers but I guess i had better start watching for flower sites for delivery to Russia.

[Vaughn]

It's a busy time for me, too.

Feb. 04 - her Birthday
Feb. 14 - Valentine's Day
Feb. 22 - our Wedding anniversary (2 years this Tuesday)
Mar. 08 - Need I say more?

We tone down the middle two, and fire it up
for the Birthday and March 8!

Elen wrote:

it's too close to the other two holiday Feb 23 and March 8

Elen, I was not aware of 23 February and I see it's called Defender's Day, a sort of Men's Day, during which ladies give small gifts to their beloved man - is this holiday widely celebrated?
Can I expect something special this Wednesday? Пока!

[Elen]

Yes Feb23 is widely selebrated by all males (never mind how "close" they are to the Red Army)  Now it is even a day off in Russia.  Small gift for men are obligated (otherwise women risked to hear out a boring lecture on the subject ' March 8 is an offense for females, because ......blah-blah-blah - something a-la Bruno's post )

Russian used to give gifts to each others at Feb. 23 and March 8 from school's years (even in kindergarten kids made gifts by their own hands for dads and moms for this days) And I see no one reason to deprive your wife of this day.

But this day is only for Russian males:P Let's find another day in a year for youselves , Americans:D

[Bruno]

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(otherwise women risked to hear out a boring lecture on the subject ' March 8 is an offense for females, because ......blah-blah-blah - something a-la Bruno's post )

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Helen, i have never say that the 8 March is a offense for females... i have only copy the meaning of my girlfriend Galina... and explain that these special days are a excuse for man... for say "sorry" about not have take care of the woman the rest of the year... i have advice to try make a "8 March" from each day of the year... Do you like that a man take care of you only one day in the year of take care of you the full year ?

Read all the post, same when it is boring before make false conclusion...

 

[Elen]

May be this day is an excuse for some males but mostly such "talks" come from those who doesn't want to do something even during one day in a year and from feminists who are offened with gifts they get just because they are women. And all agruments always are ended with an offer to cancel or ignore this holiday.

And otherwise to what your Galina says the majority females here do think it's special. Let's try to forget to bring her flowers just only in this day and we will see:P And never mind how many flowers you gave her in other 364 days in a year.  Special day is spesial.

 

 

 

[Bruno]

Of course these day is special... and i have write that flower can be good for these special day...

And about Galina, she like receive gift... it was his opinion... several woman, several opinion... and Galina is very far from these feminists, she is very traditional, sometime a little too much... she is the daughter of a orthodox cleric...

About myself, i try always to help for the work home... first, the kitchen is my domain, but i help with laudry, with shopping, i can repair clothes and several other thing... and to be honest, my help home is not without reason... more fast the home work is finish, more free time i have together with my "love"... this allow us to enjoy of the life together...

[Elen]

Ok! Good for you, Bruno!

 I just thought this discussion was about March 8 and how made this day special and shout it be done at all but not how you treated your woman in all others days of the year.

And I just don't like such statements about this special woman day like "These special days are for people who don't take care of woman the rest of year"

 And btw Orthodox traditions are f-a-a-r away from March,8  

[Bruno]

Helen, the topic is about 8 March... but you know how work a forum... people exchange meaning... in these case, it have lead to Valentin day, and to some other topic in my post... sometime, this can lead to the start of a new topic...

I know that you don't like boring text but a little history can help to understand the origine and real signification of the woman day

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1909 : In accordance with a declaration by the Socialist Party of America, the first National Woman's Day was observed across the United States on 28 February. Women continued to celebrate it on the last Sunday of that month through 1913.
http://www.un.org/ecosocdev/geninfo/women/womday97.htm
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 American origin !!!

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[font="arial,verdana,helvetica,sans serif"]The International Women's Day protest that changed the world occurred in Russia in 1917 (March 8 by Western reckoning, February 23 on the Gregorian calendar). Coming on the rise of long struggle and many strikes, International Women's Day 1917 inspired thousands of Russian women to leave their homes and factories to protest the terrible shortages of food, the high prices, the world war, and the increased suffering they had a bitterly endured. The protest inspired the last push of a revolution. A general strike spread through Petrograd, and, within a week, Czar Nicholas II was forced to abdicate.[/font]

http://www.nwhp.org/events/iwd/iwd.html
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 Woman day, origin of the russian revolution !!!

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In the early days if its observance, International Women's Day was celebrated as a socialist holiday honoring working women With the resurgence of feminism in the late 1960s came a renewed interest in International Women's Day. Feminists found it ready-made holiday for the celebration of women's lives and work and began promoting March 8 as such.

http://www.nwhp.org/events/iwd/iwd.html
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 You don't like feminist... no chance, the Woman day's is become a feminist since 1960... but here, they speak about good feminist, these who have ask the same right for woman that for man... if you don't find it boring, follow the two link up for know all the history of the woman day... and a little more below...

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March 8th is International Women's Day. This doesn't mean women from all over the world get together and go on a huge shopping spree. Instead, they look back and remember decades of struggling for equality, justice, peace and change. We also remember all the women who have made a difference in history to make these changes happen.
http://www.kidzworld.com/site/p1870.htm
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 And with all this, i don't see anywhere it is writing that man need to give gift to woman... we make it because woman ask it but the real signification of the 8 March is the commemoration of the fight of woman for equality. And i find this is important to apply these equality each day and not only the 8 March.

[Elen]

Ah, Bruno! Believe me nobody here  does associate this day with the name of  Klara Cetkin:D now (though I do know who she was. We did study all that stuff in our secondary school) But reality and theory are often different things

 And femenists are so fuzz about this holiday right because it turned out in its own contrary. We Do NOT want the "equal rights" in this day. We just want to feel ouselves "special" and "the best   God's creations" just because we are WOMEN:D. Just one day in a year. (I doubt you males would be abble to bear this the whole year:P)

And don't start to ratiocinate before March, 8 in such way that women should be treated well all year round. It's all rightly, correctly and so far, but can change little in sad reality and may just spoil a mood of the holiday. Let's leave all these right reasonings about firht for equal rifgts  for the others days in a year.

And with all this, i don't see anywhere it is writing that man need to give gift to woman... we make it because woman ask it but the real signification of the 8 March is the commemoration of the fight of woman for equality

 

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[Bruno]

You see:X where all that drived you  to???
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I don't give a gift because it is a special day, of because it is obligate... for the 8 March, i go give something to Galina because i love her, because i like make her happy... a woman with a smile  is always beautiful...

For St Valentin, i have send a living shell in a box full of sea water... she was not very happy first but i have ask her for open the shell... and she have find a pearl inside... a real one... and now, she say that it is the best gift she have receive... ( i have too send the necklace for put the pearl inside )...

It is my character, i give gift because i wish, not because it is obligate by some tradition... i have already these for the 8 March too.... already something original...

 

[Elen]

Yes we do expect gifts from our beloved because of they love us but not about obligation. But there are also a plenty other men (like colleagues at job) who should give gifts as well:P (never mind how much they "love" us in other days of a year.)