Want fo Divorce my Russian Wife -

[Simoni]

I hear it both ways....

AW are terrible.

FSU women are terrible.

Maybe, just maybe, that attitude is what helps create the "train wreck?"

[jb]

Simoni,

I have to agree with you.  People who are not ready for, or,,, are not willing,,, to put forth the effort to make a cross cultural marriage work should stay home.  The man listed above should have simply tied a $100.00 dollar bill on a string and dragged it through a trailer park in Little Rock, Arkansas, he'd have attracted the same class of woman.

Some men need to stay away from the FSU.

[Simoni]

The man listed above should have simply tied a $100.00 dollar bill on a string and dragged it through a trailer park in Little Rock, Arkansas, he'd have attracted the same class of woman.

Ha!  LOL

[Simoni]

It irritates me to see these jilted guys paint all FSU women with the same brush after they pick out a pretty puppy and then are shocked to see that she might actually have a mind of her own.

The man listed above should have simply tied a $100.00 dollar bill on a string and dragged it through a trailer park in Little Rock, Arkansas, he'd have attracted the same class of woman.

300...Yes, a little humor at your expense.  But do understand that your comments about FSU women GREATLY insulted all the married guys here, and our wives.

The truth is that it's much harder to make an international marriage work than a marriage in the US with a shared culture.  And I stand by my comments above:  If you think it's all the woman's fault, it's a sure sign that the majority of fault is in you.

[SANDRO43]

Stats
Train wrecks - 342,986
Good marriages - 12

Given those numbers, it seems this game should be called FSU Roulette with 5 rounds in the revolver rather than just 1 (you can have some practice here: http://www.funlol.com/funpages/russian-roulette-game.html) .

[mervin]

Well hold on there guys. No one knows anything about his story other than the few remarks he put forth. I for one am not going to jump to conclusions about things. I can see by his post that he's jaded and bitter about things, but maybe he has a good reason to feel that way. Either way I'm not going to jump all over him just yet. I think anyone who has a really bitter experience is going to make extreme statements about that experience.

[SANDRO43]

I think western birth rates are down predominately because of the secular nature of Europe...

Meaning less religious ? If so, you're way off-base, rates are down in religious Spain, Italy, Greece, etc. mostly because women are no longer just housewives cum baby-making machines.

and because European nations have become nanny states because of their socialistic governments.

In our electoral campaigns after WWII, Communists were gruesomely depicted as baby-eaters. Maybe the Socialists decided on a more humane approach .

[mervin]

Meaning less religious ? If so, you're way off-base, rates are down in religious Spain, Italy, Greece, etc. mostly because women are no longer just housewives cum baby-making machines.In our electoral campaigns after WWII, Communists were gruesomely depicted as baby-eaters. Maybe the Socialists decided on a more humane approach .

I don't think I'm off base at all Sandro. The church in all of Europe is dying fast. The number of people who attend church services and consider themselves Christians throughout Western Europe is a fraction of what it is here in the US, and it's a fraction of what it used to be in Europe just a few decades ago. Even if Spain is an exception to this rule it's the only country that is. France, Germany, UK, Greece and especially Italy fall into the category of what I was commenting on. Italy's birth rates are among the lowest in Europe. Hate to say it, but the birth rate of a country has a lot to do with religious predilections. And Europe is becoming a nanny state, big time. People depend more on the government for services and they're not having children at a rate that will allow them to sustain their culture for future generations even. I don't think socialists have a human approach to anything -- especially considering it's socialism and secularism that are destroying western Europe. I don't really think that's humane at all. And as far as I'm concerned, the communists were worse than baby eaters.

Not trying to argue with you Sandro I just I'm right about this. I respect your opinion of course.

[SANDRO43]

Not trying to argue with you Sandro I just I'm right about this. I respect your opinion of course.

Mervin, I live in Europe, have been interested in local socio-economical trends for quite some time, and find them often useful to form my opinions. On the other hand, you do not live here,  base your beliefs on religion, and simply say "I just I'm right about this".

Given our two widely-different approaches, then, we'll agree to disagree .

Some US sources making NO mention of religious reasons:

The change in the traditional role of women has been a major factor in the projected decline in population, the authors said. The demands of education and career encourage many women to put off having their first child.

Source: CBS News March 27, 2003 article on "European Birth Rate Declines" (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/03/27/world/main546441.shtml)

Throughout Europe, women have delayed having children, or opted out entirely, as they have become more educated and better integrated into the labor market.

Source: International Herald Tribune September 3, 2006 article on "Europe, East and West, wrestles with falling birthrates" (http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/09/03/news/birth.php).

However, in all fairness I'll also give you a reference supporting your views: "Is God dead in Europe?" (http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-01-08-faith-edit_x.htm). Needless to say,  I consider this source much less credible than the other two. 

[macman]

cum baby-making machines.

YO Sandro,

I'm following the post, even if at a low level; I held Sandro in high regard and desired as possible mentor. . .  This quote requires articulation. . .

Mm

[macman]

AND

I don't think I'm off base at all Sandro. The church in all of Europe is dying fast.

DUDE,

I was first introduced to Europe through a mission experience.  These countries are God's next proving ground.  Church dying???? HUH? Has it ever been alive?  Okay, sorry - I'm just a country boy - and know that the "next" Great Reformation may indeed be in these FSU countries. 

I could go on, however, you'd have me reading scripture vs. posts. . .

hummm. . .

guess I need to go read a bit before sleep.

NITEall

Mm

[macman]

Sandro,

I'll read closer tomorrow. . .

tired now - eyes are shot. . .

c y'all

mm

[SANDRO43]

cum baby-making machines. This quote requires articulation. . .

Not sure what you're looking for, but women were traditionally supposed to churn out one baby after another for a variety of reasons, all related to low economical conditions/expectations:
- Infant mortality
- Need of "power" to till the fields
- Need of fighting manpower for the army/tribe/clan
- Shared support of the elderly
- No alternative "recreations"
- Few effective forms of contraception
etc. etc. etc.

[ScottinCrimea]

Not sure what you're looking for, but women were traditionally supposed to churn out one baby after another for a variety of reasons, all related to low economical conditions/expectations:
- Infant mortality
- Need of "power" to till the fields
- Need of fighting manpower for the army/tribe/clan
- Shared support of the elderly
- No alternative "recreations"
- Few effective forms of contraception
etc. etc. etc.

I certainly hope this isn't what you tell the women you date.  But if you do, does it work?   

[Turkey]

I certainly hope this isn't what you tell the women you date.  But if you do, does it work?   

LOL!  You know those Italians, hopeless romantics!  You have your Puccini, Verdi and now Sandro! 

[Turboguy]

Well as far as the "no alternate recreation" part I saw a study a while back that determined that people who do not have a tv in their bedroom have sex 25% more often then those who do have a tv in their bedroom. 

[SANDRO43]

LOL!  You know those Italians, hopeless romantics!

I think Kazakhis, too, consider this quite important :
- Need of "power" to till the fields

[macman]

Not sure what you're looking for, but women were traditionally supposed to churn out one baby after another for a variety of reasons, all related to low economical conditions/expectations:
- Infant mortality
- Need of "power" to till the fields
- Need of fighting manpower for the army/tribe/clan
- Shared support of the elderly
- No alternative "recreations"
- Few effective forms of contraception
etc. etc. etc

Where I come from the women that churn out one baby after another are typically doing it for 3.5 reasons.

- Social Security
- Welfare
- Food Stamps
1/2 - No alternative "recreations"

Well as far as the "no alternate recreation" part I saw a study a while back that determined that people who do not have a tv in their bedroom have sex 25% more often then those who do have a tv in their bedroom.

I will remember this!  I've never liked a TV or a phone in the bedroom. . .

c y'all

mm

[William3rd]

Interesting- my ex-wife from thailand had 16 brothers and sisters in her family. She asked her father why there were so many children in their family. He said that they not only didnt have television; they also didnt have electricity in those days so there were no lights and nothing to do after dark except. . . .

[macman]

my ex-wife from thailand

Hey WilliamNR3 --> that wouldn't happen to be the attractive lady with your with in your photo would it?

Sorry, just curious.

mm

[William3rd]

nooo- that is the nEXt-wife from Thailand

[Jazzyclassy]

Interesting- my ex-wife from thailand had 16 brothers and sisters in her family. She asked her father why there were so many children in their family. He said that they not only didnt have television; they also didnt have electricity in those days so there were no lights and nothing to do after dark except. . . .

ahahaha I like this

[ScottinCrimea]

So all I need is a remote control for the fusebox! 

[William3rd]

of the 17 children- 2 died in childhood- one from fever and one from drowning. 3 stayed on the farm. All 15 married. There are now 44 grandchildren and 17 great grandchildren.

So- even with televisions, DVDs, lights. . . . they have been prolific.

And none of them turned out to be gay!!!!

[macman]

Well, she's a beaut William. . .  Quite exotic looking.  Are the dynamics similar to RW?  Travel easier? 

mm