Meeting a scammer in person.

[Makkin]

Hello,

  On my last trip to Ukraine I had the opportunity to learn about a scam that took place in an average way but to my surprise I met the person who was scammed and then realized I was standing about six feet from the scammer.
  When we visited a club in Odessa we all met and a new member to the group was a German who spoke good english and we talked about things. He mentioned that he was in town for two weeks but was now sort of stuck in town because the woman who was supposed to come to Germany with him had scammed him out of 1000 Euros and had been making fake communications etc through interpretation services etc..
  At the moment of talking to him I was learning about the story but suddenly he points to a girl who is close to me and tells me it is her that scammed him. At that moment I'm a bit confused because maybe his english is faltering and at the same time I'm wondering why this situation exists at the moment?
  In any case her name is Anna and I have pictures of her. She has been confirmed to be somewhat of a scammer.

Makkin

[wxman]

Wow. What are the odds of that. Did he go speak to her? I also wonder if she was part of the scam, or also the victim of the scam? I assume there are more details to this story. Please don't tell us he sent her all that money before he met her, got to know her etc; but I sense that is what happened.

[viking]

It would seem to me that if a woman scammed me for that kind of money, and I went from Germany to the Ukraine, for some still unkown reason, AND found myself in that same place with this woman.... I might have had a few words with her? And this guy just did nothing? Something weird going on here.

[Jazzyclassy]

I agree with viking


dear Makkin what about your Czech girl , you told the other day that you met such a lovely nice woman from Czech republic, anything new with her?

good luck to you dear Makkin:)

[Makkin]

  It seemed very weird that I would fall into this situation but it happened and seems the German was very familar with her.
  He explained to me what happened and also mentioned that she supposed to get a visa and that old story and come to him in Germany. He was telling me all this and then all of a sudden he tells me yes thats here right there..right here actually.
  So I ask some questions from the German and he explains things. He's a very easy person to talk with and is not trying to get anything from me. He tells me how he was chatting with her through a service and an interpreter etc...and has now found out it was all a lie. He has sent her 1000 euros as well as all the service fee's and is now in town to meet and do whatever is involved in the visa process.
  Okay Im standing there and not sure how to act as it's a bit surreal for me at this point. Thoughts of who's telling the truth here are flying in my mind and I'm wondering if maybe I should just let it all go?
  Inside the club we dance and do those things and I'm actually dancing with this girl. She is nice and we have a good time. She is with a date but its okay with her date if we dance as he and I are on good terms etc.. She asks me some simple questions with her limited english and says"I come to america"..I cannot get the text or real meaning of what she means but she is nice enough at age 27 and attractive.
  I have now talked with her date and it seems to me he knows a bit but I'm not asking anything too specific but am surely telling him what the german has told me. It seems from body language there is more to the story but I don't want to know...The date asks me if I think the German will be trouble tonight...I reply "No" I really doubt that.
  As the end of our trip comes to its final night Anna knocks upon our door at 1130pm and returns my friends missing credit card...lol..

Makkin

[Makkin]

Hey Jazzy,

  Yes..I'm actually talking with her at this very moment..The Czech girl is very nice and I will meet her this year.

Makkin....Jazzy you are a true gem here on RWD....

[Makkin]

Viking,

  It seems he wanted to meet in person the woman he had sent the money to and see what she was like in person. He also mentioned this was the second 1000 euros he had sent and it was a deal he had perfomed before with her or maybe someone different. He said it would be the last time this would happen. I told him yes...ermm..I was actually lost for words as I groped for understanding.
  This guy(german) was a really nice guy but how this thing came to play like this had me confused and Anna never danced with him and would not talk with him..??? Yea if I were this man I would be asking myself many questions but then again somehow it seems he was lured to town to meet her and then his holiday for two weeks was blown up all in one go. To make things worse all of us guys got in the club free except him??? He asked me how much I paid and I looked at four other people closely standing next to me and read the body language or something and said...seven dollars...just a guess or an estimate or something....and he replied  ahh me too...???  The others relaxed who were looking at me and I became even more confused..???

Makkin

[Jazzyclassy]

awww dear Makkin

how pleasent to receive such comments , thank you so much that is very sweet of you:)

hope you will never meet a scammer again:)

[Serebro]

He was envious

[IAmZon]

Fishy!

I heard of a guy who wired a girl several thousand dollars, and she took it AND spent it!!!

Hell, I have tenants that do that with rent every month:)

I saw a lawyer yesterday look into the camera and told a cold, flat, and absolute lie ... didn't blink.

Scam ... I wonder often; and think it is an overused term applying unfavorably to a man that is out of his league, and to a woman whose interests are less than pure.  Seems to be a fringe crime to me in which  both parties play a role. 

Sort of like taking a bad acid trip.  Sure it sucks!  But who did it in the first pace.

[Makkin]

Hello Riv,

  Yes it seemed like a"fringe" situation where the parties both had more to say on the issue as to get a better idea of what was happening?
  They would look to ba normal couple as he was 38 and her 27. They would look normal together but something was going on that caused the whole situation. Germans tend to very "tight" with cash and are always looking for the best price soooo how did he take the steps of sending all those Euro's? Not in a German's character to just send money if you ask me?

Makkin

[macman]

Yes..I'm actually talking with her at this very moment..The Czech girl is very nice and I will meet her this year.

Makkin,

Have you been to CZ?  Great place to romance your lady.  Easy to get in and out - take some extra bucks for Christmas presents  - Leaded Crystal is very cheap there.

Good luck Bro.
macman