Jack's Rant

[Jack]

Well in carraig's  situation he Does not know her that much and enough to give her any money

What!  Am I missing something here?  I thought carrig had meet this woman, face to face, they had a mutual liking for each other, they have written each other many e-mails since his visit with her.  What's this he does not know her well enough to be spending money on her for English lessons?   

To me, after meeting a woman I have great interest in and wanting to improve our communication, of course I would, and have, invested in the woman's English lessons.

[Jazzyclassy]

What!  Am I missing something here?  I thought carrig had meet this woman, face to face, they had a mutual liking for each other, they have written each other many e-mails since his visit with her.  What's this he does not know her well enough to be spending money on her for English lessons?   

To me, after meeting a woman I have great interest in and wanting to improve our communication, of course I would, and have, invested in the woman's English lessons.

That is your point of view please  stop picking at me , I never touched you, spend all your fortune on any woman you like, nobody is telling you anything

[Jack]

No, I am not telling anyone anything, unlike you. 

rude Jazzy, you made the statement "Well in carraig's  situation he Does not know her that much and enough to give her any money".

How do YOU know he does not know her well enough to pay for her English lessons? After all, he did meet her!   If you are going to make such a crazy, unfounded statement I would think you would be confident enough to stand by your statement. I guess not as obviously you cannot.

[Admin]

No, I am not telling anyone anything, unlike you. 

rude Jazzy, you made the statement "Well in carraig's  situation he Does not know her that much and enough to give her any money".

How do YOU know he does not know her well enough to pay for her English lessons? After all, he did meet her!   If you are going to make such a crazy, unfounded statement I would think you would be confident enough to stand by your statement. I guess not as obviously you cannot.

That is your point of view please  stop picking at me , I never touched you, spend all your fortune on any woman you like, nobody is telling you anything

Jack,

JC provided her opinion of the situation, and provided the context of her own relationship.

If you disagree with her opinion - that is fine - but you can do so without attacking JC.

You seem to be offended at JC having called you "rude" in a previous post. Fact is Jack - a whole bunch of people *DO* see you as rude on occasion. Having expressed her opinion is NOT justification for you to snipe and pick at her - and is, in fact, a violation of the Terms of Service. Knock it off.

- Dan

[Jack]

Dan, I also just voiced my opinion. rude jazzy was allowed to voice her opinion of me but when the table was turned and I voiced my opinion of rude jazzy, my opinion of her was deleted.

The reason I call rude jazzy rude is because you allow her to call me rude.
So be it, agreed, many people consider me rude, but if admin will allow her to call me rude, surley I am also allowed to call her rude.  Whatever you will allow her to call me, I assume I can call her in return without having to have my words, post, sentences deleted.

[Admin]

Dan, I also just voiced my opinion. rude jazzy was allowed to voice her opinion of me but when the table was turned and I voiced my opinion of rude jazzy, my opinion of her was deleted.

The reason I call rude jazzy rude is because you allow her to call me rude.
So be it, agreed, many people consider me rude, but if admin will allow her to call me rude, surley I am also allowed to call her rude.  Whatever you will allow her to call me, I assume I can call her in return without having to have my words, post, sentences deleted.

Jack,

That has GOT to be the most childish argument ANYONE has EVER tried to foist off.

Get over it.

- Dan

[Jack]

Maybe it's childish Dan but at least it's the truth.


And you Dan, you referring to this has childish is like the pot calling the kettle black.  I also refer to your double standards of deleting, editing, childish as well.



When I posted some photos of some ladies who had attended a party at my flat on Sunday evening jazzy responded in that thread with these remarks,..

crazy jassy

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...."looks like  strange women who are like used dolls in the cheap shop willing to be sold whenever ...... only to be sold as soon as possible".....

I had not writen jazzy in a long time. These comments from her about my photos were not from any provoked attack or anything I had said to her. She was allowed to voice her opinion and it was left intact.



When I posted about some of my recent experiences in Kiev jazzy is again allowed to post and comment,

I consider it to be a very  bad influence on all the members of RWD and mostly it produces bad effect on men , cos they all  want to repeat this fake success in meeting millions of strange women..... for the sake of what? of entertainment but not for the sake of creating stable good family

You saw nothing wrong with her post did you Dan. I had not written jazzy for months. Can't say I was picking on her Dan.  jazzy, unprovoked, replied in this manner to my post and you saw nothing wrong with that. In addition jazzy was allowed to give her opinion of me which stated, .....he behaves here very frivolous,...he is very rude,... absolutely tough talking,...me think he is an athority here if he acts this way.   And Dan, none of her statements, opinions were provoked by me, I had NOT written her.


So what the heck, I see jazzy is allowed to voice her opinion as to these women look like used dolls in a cheap shop willing to be sold, I see jazzy is allowed to voice her opinion as to what I was doing in Kiev as a very bad influence on all members.   I disagreed with this Dan.   I see jazzy is allowed, again unprovoked by anything I could have written to her, to express her opinion about me and about what I am doing.  Great, guess I can offer my opinions to and about jazzy, as she was allowed.

So I posted the following,

jassy

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I am the  person as you  and the others and have all the rights to express the things I feel about  what I think is wrong or right

Right you are crazy jazzy. And as you have enriched us with your opinion of me in this post (and I haven't had to go crying to Dan)  I hope you won't take offense as to me expressing my opinion of you, ok?  Only fair, right?

One thing I, and others as expressed to me, have noticed about you crazy jazzy is that many times when photos of beautiful women are shown or are talked about, you often have not so nice things to say about these women. You seem to categorize all beautiful women into a mode not so good and that you would like to portray to all men seeking a beautiful wife. One good example of this (although there are many) was when some recent photos of some nice ladies were shown and you replied,..


crazy jassy

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...."looks like  strange women who are like used dolls in the cheap shop willing to be sold whenever ...... only to be sold as soon as possible".....


Typical crazy jazzy comments. It appears to me that you have a real complex (maybe jealousy) to these men who seek to achieve a beautiful Russian wife, which prompts me to say I think we will never again see the name classyjazzy and beautiful Russian women again ever mentioned in the same sentence. Enjoy your 15 minutes.

And crazy jassy when you preach to us about all these bad women, don't overlook that there are more bad women, escorts, whores, in your own city than any other city in the world. If you want to start preaching morals and cleaning up the place, best you start in your own city.

crazy jassy I do know a little about Russian women and as such I can honestly say that you are most certainly not the type Russian woman that 98% of our clients are looking for. I think it is wonderful benefit for the male members of this board to see you write and express your opinions as it helps a great many of these men more than you will ever know to look for traits and things in Russian women that they do not like or want in their future dream bride. And for this valuable lesson crazy jazzy I do thank you.

Dan, why is it jazzzy is allowed to make snide remarks about ladies whose photos I post, snide and rude remarks about my Kiev expereinces?  Well I guess you are saying because they are her expressed opinions.  Ok, fine, well what about my expressed opinions to her comments?  Why are they deleted but yet jazzy's unprovoked statements and expressed opinions allowed to stand?

[Admin]

Maybe it's childish Dan but at least it's the truth.

The "truth" as you see it perhaps - but I see it differently.

And you Dan, you referring to this has childish is like the pot calling the kettle black.  I also refer to your double standards of deleting, editing, childish as well.

Jack, I will protect the integrity and the free-flow of information at RWD - just as I have the past couple of years. That includes protecting it from people, even you, who refuse to follow simple rules for civil discourse.

When I posted some photos of some ladies who had attended a party at my flat on Sunday evening jazzy responded in that thread with these remarks,..


I had not writen jazzy in a long time. These comments from her about my photos were not from any provoked attack or anything I had said to her. She was allowed to voice her opinion and it was left intact.

Yes, she is allowed to speak her opinion - and you are allowed to rebut - in a civil and respectful manner. You are not doing that Jack. If you were, we would not be wasting time in this exchange.

You saw nothing wrong with her post did you Dan. I had not written jazzy for months. Can't say I was picking on her Dan.  jazzy, unprovoked, replied in this manner to my post and you saw nothing wrong with that. In addition jazzy was allowed to give her opinion of me which stated, .....he behaves here very frivolous,...he is very rude,... absolutely tough talking,...me think he is an athority here if he acts this way.   And Dan, none of her statements, opinions were provoked by me, I had NOT written her.

And to the extent JC was incorrect in her assumptions - myself, along with others, set the record straight.

So what the heck, I see jazzy is allowed to voice her opinion as to these women look like used dolls in a cheap shop willing to be sold, I see jazzy is allowed to voice her opinion as to what I was doing in Kiev as a very bad influence on all members.   I disagreed with this Dan.   I see jazzy is allowed, again unprovoked by anything I could have written to her, to express her opinion about me and about what I am doing.  Great, guess I can offer my opinions to and about jazzy, as she was allowed.

Jack, I did not agree with JC's assessment of the photos. As you know, I enjoy the photos you post. The fact that she saw them and had that reaction *IS* within the bounds to speak her reaction. If you wish to disagree with her - fine - but you must do it without personal insult and absolutely without name-calling. Period.

So I posted the following,

Dan, why is it jazzzy is allowed to make snide remarks about ladies whose photos I post, snide and rude remarks about my Kiev expereinces?  Well I guess you are saying because they are her expressed opinions.  Ok, fine, well what about my expressed opinions to her comments?  Why are they deleted but yet jazzy's unprovoked statements and expressed opinions allowed to stand?

Jack - I have answered your questions - privately, and now publicly. You seem to not recognize when you cross over into personal attacks on someone. There is a clear distinction between a person expressing their opinion of an issue - and another person resorting to insults and name-calling. One form of discourse is allowed - and the other is not.

- Dan

[Mamma D]

Why don't you take ypur ball and bat and go home?

Sounds alot like the schoolyard bully to me....

[Wayne B]

Mamma D, you for sure are a very sharp woman.......I  would love to meet you  and your family in person....Wayne & Anna.

[catzenmouse]

MammaD,

 You are a true treasure here at RWD!

Ken

[Jet]

Jack,
Just something to consider when taking on a crusade...

When I posted some photos of some ladies who had attended a party at my flat on Sunday evening jazzy responded in that thread with these remarks,..

crazy jassy
...."looks like  strange women who are like used dolls in the cheap shop willing to be sold whenever ...... only to be sold as soon as possible".....

I had not writen jazzy in a long time. These comments from her about my photos were not from any provoked attack or anything I had said to her. She was allowed to voice her opinion and it was left intact.

Right here, you try to make a point, but can't resist the urge to quote a line by attributing it to crazy jassy. That attribution is what seems to get you into hot water wherever you go - because it is a personal insult. From the sidelines it makes you look small. Notice at no time in any of the text you quote from Jazzy does she personally insult you by kindergarten name calling. I'm sure that if someone were to start addressing you as "Loudmouth Jack / Jack@zz or anything of the sort, you'd be the first one to have a friggin' conniption fit. That's the difference between your posts and other peoples' posts. If you dropped the personal insults and name calling, I think a lot more people would take you a lot more seriously.

When I posted about some of my recent experiences in Kiev jazzy is again allowed to post and comment,

I consider it to be a very  bad influence on all the members of RWD and mostly it produces bad effect on men , cos they all  want to repeat this fake success in meeting millions of strange women..... for the sake of what? of entertainment but not for the sake of creating stable good family

You saw nothing wrong with her post did you Dan. I had not written jazzy for months. Can't say I was picking on her Dan.  jazzy, unprovoked, replied in this manner to my post and you saw nothing wrong with that. In addition jazzy was allowed to give her opinion of me which stated, .....he behaves here very frivolous,...he is very rude,... absolutely tough talking,...me think he is an authority here if he acts this way.   And Dan, none of her statements, opinions were provoked by me, I had NOT written her.


So what the heck, I see jazzy is allowed to voice her opinion as to these women look like used dolls in a cheap shop willing to be sold, I see jazzy is allowed to voice her opinion as to what I was doing in Kiev as a very bad influence on all members.   I disagreed with this Dan.   I see jazzy is allowed, again unprovoked by anything I could have written to her, to express her opinion about me and about what I am doing.  Great, guess I can offer my opinions to and about jazzy, as she was allowed.

So I posted the following,

Right you are crazy jazzy. And as you have enriched us with your opinion of me in this post (and I haven't had to go crying to Dan)  I hope you won't take offense as to me expressing my opinion of you, ok?  Only fair, right?

One thing I, and others as expressed to me, have noticed about you crazy jazzy is that many times when photos of beautiful women are shown or are talked about, you often have not so nice things to say about these women. You seem to categorize all beautiful women into a mode not so good and that you would like to portray to all men seeking a beautiful wife. One good example of this (although there are many) was when some recent photos of some nice ladies were shown and you replied,..


crazy jassy

Quote
...."looks like  strange women who are like used dolls in the cheap shop willing to be sold whenever ...... only to be sold as soon as possible".....


Typical crazy jazzy comments. It appears to me that you have a real complex (maybe jealousy) to these men who seek to achieve a beautiful Russian wife, which prompts me to say I think we will never again see the name classyjazzy and beautiful Russian women again ever mentioned in the same sentence. Enjoy your 15 minutes.

And crazy jassy when you preach to us about all these bad women, don't overlook that there are more bad women, escorts, whores, in your own city than any other city in the world. If you want to start preaching morals and cleaning up the place, best you start in your own city.

crazy jassy I do know a little about Russian women and as such I can honestly say that you are most certainly not the type Russian woman that 98% of our clients are looking for. I think it is wonderful benefit for the male members of this board to see you write and express your opinions as it helps a great many of these men more than you will ever know to look for traits and things in Russian women that they do not like or want in their future dream bride. And for this valuable lesson crazy jazzy I do thank you.

Dan, why is it jazzzy is allowed to make snide remarks about ladies whose photos I post, snide and rude remarks about my Kiev expereinces?  Well I guess you are saying because they are her expressed opinions.  Ok, fine, well what about my expressed opinions to her comments?  Why are they deleted but yet jazzy's unprovoked statements and expressed opinions allowed to stand?

I really have to believe that if you would have simply omitted the seven instances of name calling, this discussion wouldn't even be taking place. THAT is the difference between your opinion and her opinion. YOU are allowed to make snide comments as well, I've seen them allowed to stand in arguments you and I have had in the distant past, but when making the snide comments, attack the subject matter, not the author - an idea you seem not to be able to come to grips with.

Just my $0.02 as a sideline observer...

[Thor]

Maybe it's childish Dan but at least it's the truth.


And you Dan, you referring to this has childish is like the pot calling the kettle black.  I also refer to your double standards of deleting, editing, childish as well.



When I posted some photos of some ladies who had attended a party at my flat on Sunday evening jazzy responded in that thread with these remarks,..


I had not writen jazzy in a long time. These comments from her about my photos were not from any provoked attack or anything I had said to her. She was allowed to voice her opinion and it was left intact.



When I posted about some of my recent experiences in Kiev jazzy is again allowed to post and comment,




You saw nothing wrong with her post did you Dan. I had not written jazzy for months. Can't say I was picking on her Dan.  jazzy, unprovoked, replied in this manner to my post and you saw nothing wrong with that. In addition jazzy was allowed to give her opinion of me which stated, .....he behaves here very frivolous,...he is very rude,... absolutely tough talking,...me think he is an athority here if he acts this way.   And Dan, none of her statements, opinions were provoked by me, I had NOT written her.


So what the heck, I see jazzy is allowed to voice her opinion as to these women look like used dolls in a cheap shop willing to be sold, I see jazzy is allowed to voice her opinion as to what I was doing in Kiev as a very bad influence on all members.   I disagreed with this Dan.   I see jazzy is allowed, again unprovoked by anything I could have written to her, to express her opinion about me and about what I am doing.  Great, guess I can offer my opinions to and about jazzy, as she was allowed.

So I posted the following,










Dan, why is it jazzzy is allowed to make snide remarks about ladies whose photos I post, snide and rude remarks about my Kiev expereinces?  Well I guess you are saying because they are her expressed opinions.  Ok, fine, well what about my expressed opinions to her comments?  Why are they deleted but yet jazzy's unprovoked statements and expressed opinions allowed to stand?

I will support you here Jack. It seems to me that this woman is making rued comments about the photos and also by the girls at your party. How can Jazzy jugde the girls by saying :looks like  strange women who are like used dolls in the cheap shop willing to be sold whenever ...... only to be sold as soon as possible".....She dont know this girls and should not make comments like this only because she dont like how this girls looks and dress...

Keep on posting photos Jack, I really enjoy your photos. Your posts and photos are among the best at this board!!!

[BC]

Regarding the photo's of women at the party, I got much the same 'feeling' Jazzy did.  Mostly pics of single women sitting around.. no text, no 'Here's Natashsa, a nice girl that lives right outside Kyiv and works at a kindergarten'.. etc...  the pics told me absolutely nothing. 

A few remarks about who these women are would have added at least a little value.  At this point we don't even know which one was the woman you picked up at the park, or if any of them were even interested in an international relationship or just along for the party ride.  Maybe you can get some of these women to post and they can chip in as to the way they were represented here.  I reckon most, if not all of em don't even know their pics were published.

Bottom line, the content was purely visual, not unlike dangling carrots.. and of no value.  If that's what guys around here want then it is MUCH easier to do this:

Google 'Russian Woman' and click on the images link and you can see hundreds of pics of sexy FSU women without comments in all kinds of poses and states of dress.

Enjoy.

[Mir]

Besides the women (except one) were rather plain and ordinary in looks

Jack has said that 98% men would not like anyone like JC as a partner, maybe from his vast experience Jack can tell us what type of woman are these 98% looking for?

[Jack]

Why don't you take ypur ball and bat and go home?
Sounds alot like the schoolyard bully to me....

MammaD, your being a bit to harsh on jazzy don't you think?
I think she would relate more to a soccer ball than baseball and bat.   


Jet you are absolutley correct.


Mir I think what most men are looking for in a Russian woman is an educated, beautiful, mature woman of elegance, class, grace and culture.  May I ask what you are looking for in your Russian woman?



Regarding BC's post it will do no good to reply. Any comments to or about him which shows him to be the dimwit he is, or the complete lack of knowledge he has about Russian women or the pursuit for a Russian bride will of course be deleted, thus a waste of my time to even reply.

[Makkin]

Hey Now,

  I like both Jazzy and Jack.

  When I went to Ukraine in March I had a problem that needed Jack's help. Jack did not hesitate to fix the problem and was very fast and efficient in doing so. I would always refer you to Jack in these matters of Ukraine and Russia as he has proven to me that he knows how to take care of business.
  Jazzy is a wonderful girl and thats simply how I see it. She has always been nice to people in my opinion and she offers help to anyone who asks. She is learning many things and will continue to learn. I value her very much.

Makkin

[Mir]

Mir I think what most men are looking for in a Russian woman is an educated, beautiful, mature woman of elegance, class, grace and culture.  May I ask what you are looking for in your Russian woman?

All that and some brains as well

[Jack]

All that and some brains as well

Well Mir, that's kind of what "educated" was referring to.

[Mir]

Yes kind of, still people can be called educated (degrees) yet lack brains and vise versa

[Daveman]

But it's also best to find one without ears!!

That way she's not so earritable, earritating, earresponsible, or earrational... doesn't give you that earrie feeling when you screw up... it's simply earrebuttable!!

What do you think, Mear?   

Sorry to be so earreverant... which of course adds to my earrelevance.  geez, just so earreconcilably earredeemble... ah, hope everyone takes this in good spearits.


*no ears were harmed in the making of this post*

[Jet]

Jet you are absolutley correct.
...which shows him to be the dimwit he is...

[Mamma D]

Jack......

I suggest you look in the old looking glass.....You are getting plain boring!

DROP IT!  You only succeed in making yourself look like a fool......