A Lurker Saying Hello... And a Little Bit More...

[SacramentoSteve]

Hi...

I've been reading the boards here for a few months, & decided to say hello.

Some very strong personalities here, & overall I'm rather impressed with the informative, no nonsense approach that many seem to have who frequent this forum.

Some background on me:

I've regularly read another well known forum (RWG) since 2003, so although I've never set foot in Ukraine I'm not entirely new to the subject.  I recognize many a name here from the aforementioned forum.

I know someone who married a Ukrainian women a couple of years ago, and I've socialized with them a few times and spoken with him in great length about his trips to Ukraine, & his subsequent marriage.

Anyway... I'm 36, from Sacramento CA, educated and fit, never married, no kids etc., and find myself still single.  I haven't found what I'm looking for here, so why not expand my horizons?

FYI-I'm not dead set on finding a Ukrainian/Russian bride; I just want to explore the possibility and see what happens.  If it works out fantastic, if not then atleast I'd have a great experience (I'd hope) under my belt.

The time finally seems right to plan my first trip. I'd like to go early this Fall, or more realistically late next Spring to avoid the harsher winter months.

So Hello!

**Thanks to all those who contribute to these boards, & I hope I'm in a position someday to offer my advice from a place of experience.

[Kuna]

Steve,

Welcome to RWD!

There's no better way to find a wonderful girl than to go to Ukraine or Russia.  Many men think about it but never go so they'll NEVER succeed.

I reckon there's a few ways to take a trip...  No pressure holiday mode and meet some girls... or a committed approach where you understand your goals, the process and desired outcomes and pan to achieve that!

What I do know is that NOTHING will be like your first trip so make the best of it.

There's plenty of good women looking for good men but of course there are dangers.  Some you'll expect... some you won't.  Your best resource for planning is here because there are many men that gave advice freely to me and listening to the right advice will help you immensely!

Best of luck,

Kuna

[Simoni]

**Thanks to all those who contribute to these boards, & I hope I'm in a position someday to offer my advice from a place of experience.

Welcome, Steve...and best wishes on your trip this fall.  But most of all on that trip, remember to be relaxed, not uptight, and have FUN>

Your quote above...shows great wisdom.  I crack up sometimes at the advice given to us by men who have never been to the FSU or who are one week wonders.   Look instead for advice from the Leslies, the JBs, the Dan's, the KenCs, the Vaughns, Catzenmouse, and other guys who have been there, done that, and survived multiple years of marriage to an FSU woman.

(to our other veteran married guys....sorry my list is not all inclusive).

[Wayne B]

Welcome Steve! Kuna and Simoni, give you valuable information.....I will add that a Russian Woman cannot be compared to an American Woman.....more patience and hard work are required....but, the pay off is wonderful to say the least.

[ScottinCrimea]

Hi Steve and welcome!
 

FYI-I'm not dead set on finding a Ukrainian/Russian bride; I just want to explore the possibility and see what happens.  If it works out fantastic, if not then atleast I'd have a great experience (I'd hope) under my belt.

Once you've had your first experience with an FSU woman, I think you won't be saying this. 

[catzenmouse]

Welcome Steve!

 Good to have you amongst the non-lurkers! Fall is a wonderful time to go so don't hesitate if the plan works out.

guys who have been there, done that, and survived multiple years of marriage to an FSU woman.

Survived is right!  I've got a few shrapnel wounds and a few missing parts but holding up fairly well so far...

Ken

[SacramentoSteve]

Thanks all for the warm welcomes.

There's no better way to find a wonderful girl than to go to Ukraine or Russia.  Many men think about it but never go so they'll NEVER succeed.

Your best resource for planning is here because there are many men that gave advice freely to me and listening to the right advice will help you immensely!

When I start this process (I've yet to communicate with any girls) I have every intention to follow through with a trip.  So I won't be just another "keyboard romeo".
I don't want to be in my mid 40's or older and wonder what would have happened had I gone 10 years earlier.

I agree, there is invaluable information to be FOUND here. When I told my friend (who married the Ukranian Woman)  that I've been "studying up" on this subject for years, he said he wishes he had found a resource like this forum  before he made his first trip back in 03.

[Wayne B]

Thanks all for the warm welcomes.


When I start this process (I've yet to communicate with any girls) I have every intention to follow through with a trip.  So I won't be just another "keyboard romeo".
I don't want to be in my mid 40's or older and wonder what would have happened had I gone 10 years earlier.

I agree, there is invaluable information to be FOUND here. When I told my friend (who married the Ukranian Woman)  that I've been "studying up" on this subject for years, he said he wishes he had found a resource like this forum  before he made his first trip back in 03.

  Steve, I am 45yrs old and Anna and I were married June 16th. I don't wish I had gone 10 yrs ago because I may have never met my Anna   but I do wish that I would have known about RWD before I started my journey

[SacramentoSteve]

Hi Steve and welcome!
 
Once you've had your first experience with an FSU woman, I think you won't be saying this. 

Meeting my friends wife gave me an idea in what I might expect, but doesn't really qualify as my "first experience". 
She was feminine, beautiful, polite, and I loved listening to her accent.

I'm nearly afraid to make a trip as it might spoil me forever when it comes to dating AW. 

But I suppose that would be a good problem to have.

[Rvrwind]

I'm nearly afraid to make a trip as it might spoil me for forever when it comes to dating AW.

It does tend to have that effect alright. 

But I suppose that would be a good problem to have.

There are deffinetly worse problems to have!!
Welcome to RWD!!

[SacramentoSteve]

  Steve, I am 45yrs old and Anna and I were married June 16th. I don't wish I had gone 10 yrs ago because I may have never met my Anna   but I do wish that I would have known about RWD before I started my journey

Hi Wayne...
Congratulations on your new marriage. Shouldn't you still be on your honeymoon, & not on a message board?   
I've read many of your posts on here.  I hope things are going well with you & Anna in the lone star state.

[Thor]

Steve,

If you are 36 years old this is a perfect age to go and look for a FSU girl. Most men comming to FSU are in their 40"s or 50"s. The FSU girls are the most sexy and beautiful girls in the world, and if you come here you will have the time of your life!!!

[Wayne B]

Hi Wayne...
Congratulations on your new marriage. Shouldn't you still be on your honeymoon, & not on a message board?   
I've read many of your posts on here.  I hope things are going well with you & Anna in the lone star state.

  Steve, thank you for your well wishes for Anna and I....'Honeymoon' if I could not direct some of my attention else where.....my Russian wife would for sure 'Be the reason for my last breath' allthough I would have a smile on my face    We are now working on her AOS paper work....Same information....different form numbers....more money.....Why can't I just send the USCIS a check and be done with it all....Well at least we are married now and we can begin to plan together our new life.....as long as we keep the USCIS happy

[SacramentoSteve]

Steve,

If you are 36 years old this is a perfect age to go and look for a FSU girl. Most men comming to FSU are in their 40"s or 50"s. The FSU girls are the most sexy and beautiful girls in the world, and if you come here you will have the time of your life!!!

Hi Thor...

I agree, 36 seems like a great age to start this process.  The past couple of years I've been thinking of marriage and family more and more; whereas I seldom thought of it in my 20's or very early 30's.
And as for "having the time of life" that remains to be seen but I hope your'e right!

Thor- Please check your PM's, I'm not sure if the one I sent you made it through.  Let me know.  Thanks.

[Thor]

Hi Steve,

It went thrue and I have allready responded...

[Air Dog]

Hi Steve,

Nine years ago I was in your position; single, thirty-something, good job, and physically fit.  Then I started looking and now I'm happily married (7.5 years) to a Ukrainian lady.

My first bit of advice is to forget the tours.  My wife has talked to women who went to the parties that the agencies sponsor and they are basically meat markets.  It's a great boost to your ego, but not a good way to start out what will hopefully be a lifetime relationship.  Instead, carefully search though the profiles of various agencies - I used "A Foreign Affair", but I'm sure there are plenty of other agencies - and find a few women with whom you are attracted to and might be compatible.  Please be realistic in your expectations.  Then purchase their addresses and start some serious letter writing.  Be honest!  It'll only cause a lot of grief to you and the lady if you're not honest with her from the beginning.  After you become comfortable with each other via post, you might ask for her phone number.  Calling cards are available, so the cost is not terribly expensive.  Like any good relationship, it takes a lot of time.

You're fortunate that you live in the Sacramento area.  There is a large Ukrainian/Russian community in Sacramento, particularly in the north side of town.  Yes, I do live in this area. 

If you have further questions, please email me through this forum.  I'm not giving out my email address or telephone number on this forum so I can avoid unwanted solicitations.

Best of luck,

Air Dog

[DKMM]

I'm a bit curious.  You have been reading russian women boards for 4 years but never even communicated with a russian woman?  I wonder if there is a reason for that.  I think most of us probably found this place after we communicated with one (but hopefullly before going over there!).

Anyways, best of luck, you won't find a better resource than RWD.  And you are right, it will forever spoil you to never want a AW again.  I can't even go out with my friends without shaking my head at the fools here drooling over average women that they'll never talk to.  So be prepared for going through with this because you won't want to do date locals once you go there and meet some.

[MaxxumUSA]

She was feminine, beautiful, polite, and I loved listening to her accent.

I'm nearly afraid to make a trip as it might spoil me forever when it comes to dating AW. 

Oh yeah...  When you visit your first time - you will see hundreds - if not thousands of beautiful women in russia.  MANY have outstanding personalities, terrific looks, great bodies, and very comfortable with their feminine side and sexuality.

And most of all - Most of them are attracted to us, and would be happy to be with us and take care of us.  They want love and stability.

Not sure whether you will be ruined - but for me - this is my path.  And I will probably never look back.

[SacramentoSteve]

I'm a bit curious.  You have been reading russian women boards for 4 years but never even communicated with a russian woman?  I wonder if there is a reason for that.  I think most of us probably found this place after we communicated with one (but hopefullly before going over there!).

You are correct, four years and no contact.  I'm now in a position to go about this venture properly, meaning I own my home, can afford the trips etc.  I did not see the point of beginning communications with ladies if I could not have followed through with the most serious of intentions.
So its rather simple, I can afford to financially today, whereas five years ago it would have been stretching it at best.

I've continued to date AW over this time, but nothing has developed seriously and as of right now I'm as single as they come.

The idea even goes a bit further back than four years.  Back in 1996 (before I had the internet) a friend of mine showed me these photos of 100's of beautiful Russian women at these various marriage sites. I was awestruck by their apparent natural beauty, and wondered if these girls had serious intentions or if it was all a scam to part men from their money.  Almost all of the girls had slim, slender bodies, and most had pretty faces.  Something you don't often see any more in the States, especially for women over 25.
I was 24/25 back then and fresh out of college, so it wasn't even an option. Perhaps it planted a seed in my mind that took a while to blossom.
I remember "joking" with an ex girlfriend of mine who wanted to get back together with me in 1998 by replying to her that I was going to go for a Russian bride.  It made her so mad, I can vividly remember the expression of anger and frustration on her face, upon hearing that for the first time.

In 2003 I stumbled across RWG one night & have visited ever since.  Around that same time is when I found out a friend of mine was traveling to Ukraine to meet a gal he met through an online site.  They married in 04, and to this day are still together.

It's late, and I'm starting to wander off here with this post, but you get the idea why I did not contact any ladies during that time.  During those four years, I considered it my study & research time, if I were to ever begin the process.  I like to be as prepared as possible, plus it made for interesting reading, in particular some of the riveting trip reports.

[Simoni]

Well, you certainly should be prepared, Steve.

Good luck with your trip!

~Si