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See the scam unfold
« on: July 01, 2007, 06:44:47 PM »
I want to contribute to the education of potential scam victims.  Im going to post from first contact and all emails to conclusion the scam that touched my life. It is still unfolding. There has been no request for money as yet but Im convinced its a scam. Lets break the communication down and see if we can conclude with certainty at what point the future victim should stop communication. Sounds like productive fun to me.

Ill post her picture the moment she asks for money.

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Re: See the scam unfold
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2007, 06:46:48 PM »
You conclude your communications when you get the first unsolicited letter. Or, if you wrote to her first, when the lack of back and forth communications makes it clear that she is not reading your letters.

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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2007, 07:00:26 PM »
June 14th First Contact

Hello Tim!
I am very glad that you have answered on my message.
I apologize, that so for a long time did not answer your letter.
I counted it not serious acquaintance through the Internet. But I want to try.
I never used the Internet, therefore I did not know that it so simply.
But me 27 years and I think, that I should think of my future now.
Therefore I have sent you my message through web site.
Very pity, that I have no computer in my apartment,
therefore I can write to you only from Internet - cafe.
Internet - cafe is located near to my work,
therefore I shall write to you when I shall have a free time.
My profile was created to me by the manager of Internet - cafe.
He has shown me only how to find profile men on web site.
I do not know why I have chosen you, but I think, that I was helped by female intuition.
As speak in Russia a female intuition it is a riddle which the woman cannot explain too.
And I think that my intuition does not deceive me.
In mine profile is written about me very little,
therefore we can learn about each other better, only through our letters.
I want tell you a little about myself:
You already know my name, my name is Nadezhda.
I am from Ruusia.
I live in small city Zelenodolsk it is a Tatarstan Ripablic.
You already know that I am 27 years old.
I was born in 24 March of 1980.
I have no brothers and sisters.
I am a single and I was never married.
Do you have been married?
Do you have a childrens?
If it is not difficult for you,
write me about it more in detail because it is very interesting for learning to me.
I very love a children and my work is connected with children.
Therefore I have specially finished a Medical Institute.
And I have a doctor degree.
I am a children's doctor, i.e. I am not a nurse I am a doctor-pediatrist.
I work as the children's doctor in a maternity hospital.
I very like my work, because I love children.
Unfortunately I have no my own children
because I have not found a worthy the men which could be father of my children.
I very much want that I had two children (boy and girl).
You can ask me why I want two children?
I do not know why...... But it is possible
because in Russia on statistics normally to have 2 children.
I want to tell you, that I live one, in a small apartment.
I never saw my father and I do not  know where he and who is he,
therefore only my mum was engaged in my education.
My mum have raised me alone.
Therefore I to treat creation of family very seriously.
I do not want that my children have repeated my destiny.
Children should live in normal, full family.
They should have love and caress of both parents.
Children should have both parents to love and protect them.
I hope that you agree with me?
But one year ago my mum has died, and I now is very lonely.
Therefore I search serious man for serious relations.
Which will love me, understand me and I shall love him too.
I want to come back at home every day and see a face of my lover men.
Prepare a dinner or a supper for us.
To have dinner with him together,
a dinner with  lover man is very pleasant.... I think, that you agree with me?!
Therefore I want to create my own family.
A people should not be lonely therefore people aspire to find a half.
Now I should go, but I hope that today I shall have time to write to you still.
Nadezhda.
P.S. I would be very glad, if you have sent me of more photo..
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Re: See the scam unfold
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2007, 07:04:37 PM »
ok.. this was the initial letter from her replying to my message to her ad.

Before I start posting my replies and her replies, is the general consensus of this board feel that it has value and interest?

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Re: See the scam unfold
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2007, 07:09:45 PM »
It has value. . . . see how it compares to archives to avoid a lot of repetition.

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Re: See the scam unfold
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2007, 07:26:46 PM »
My Reply June 16...

Nadya

It has been a long time since I wrote you. I thought you had decided not to write me because I mostly asked you about the Russian Military. Im very happy to finally have received your email.

I was very happy that your message to me was very long. It shows me how serious you are.
If I have not sent you a picture, I will send one in this email.

To answer some of your questions:
I am 43 years old. I am from the USA in the state of Pennsylvania and the city of Pittsburgh.
I am a Electrical Power Generation Engineer, A USA Commercial Licensed Ships Captain, I fly small private planes and have a strong medical back ground. I own a small company that rents generators and is developing alternative fuels for power generation. We are very busy but not a large rich company. If you need a man with a lot of money, I would be the wrong man. Many women measure a man by how much money he has. I wanted to be honest with you from the beginning.
 
I was married for 14 years. I have two boys ages 12 and 13. I love my sons more than anything in the world. I agree with your view on children. They are the treasures of the world.

You are a beautiful young professional woman. I know many men must be interested in you. I understand if you are writing to other men. I am happy to email you and over time become good friends. I believe friendship is an important foundation to long term success of a deep long term relationship.

Its very nice you are a Doctor. I have recently thought about attending law school. As an Engineer and Ships Captain, I believe my profession will be more difficult in my older years. So, I think being a lawyer is a good profession in older years.

If you are to be seriously interested in me, I may someday like to visit you in Soviet Union. As a young man , I was in the US Navy for 6 years. Growing up, the Soviet Union was the enemy of the US. Now we have very common world interests and I wish to visit the USSR and meet the military people. Im excited about talking with you and learning about your culture. Im not a handsome man like you are a beautiful woman but maybe you dont mind.

Ill send you a picture now and hope you reply. I am the younger man in the pic. The older man is my best friend.

Kind regards
Tim
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Re: See the scam unfold
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2007, 07:30:20 PM »
It has value. . . .
The only value may be cathartic, IMHO. Sorry to sound jaded, TC, but it's a lot of déja vu from the very first letter.

1. Diffidence/novelty in using the Internet (playing the innocent).
2. No home PC, Internet Café (preparing the ground for $ request).
3. Irregular writing (busy with other scammees).
4. Female intuition (Oh, yes, flattering)
5. "therefore we can learn about each other better, only through our letters" (forestalling your request for her phone number).
6. Single orphan daughter, small apartment (preparing for pityful stories).
7."I very like my work, because I love children" etc. (and she showed no reaction at your having 2 ?).
8. "You can ask me why I want two children? I do not know why...... But it is possible because in Russia on statistics normally to have 2 children" (this is a new one to me, mother instinct based on statistics ;D).
9. "Prepare a dinner or a supper for us" (the good housewife).

All too familiar already, I'm afraid. But if it makes you feel better ::).
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2007, 07:33:35 PM »
June 18,2007

Hello Tim!
I very waited for your answer.
I am very lucky to have made a new friend like you.
And I very much waited for this minute,
when I again can come in Internet - cafe answer you.
Many thanks for a photo, you have very much liked me.
Very a pity, that I have no computer in my apartment.
If I had a computer my apartment, We could chat.
I could not write to you because now I know that letters are sent through the modem.
But for the modem, it is necessary to have home phone.
Here in our village, it is very difficult to install a telephone houses
because it is necessary to wait about one year in turn and to pay the big sum of money.
I am not rich or wealthy, I am just everyday average Russian citizen.
More cheaply to write to me from Internet - cafe.
It is more convenient and is cheap.
I am a little excited and confused, because I do not know what me write you.
From your answer I see, that you understand my English, It's well.
I am glad, that we have no problems in our dialogue.
But, if I cannot understand some expressions and words I shall ask you, Ok?
Very interesting to me learn about you better because I never left Russia.
And it is very interesting to me to learn as live people in other countries.
I saw only in cinema about your life.
But I think, that cinema shows, only all good.
At cinema do not show household problems of people.
I want so much to tell about myself but I have no time right now.
And I think, that we should not hasten.
I hope that you agree with me?
In my last letters I have told about myself a little.
Therefore I shall continue...
I am glad, that you liked my photo which I have sent you.
On a photo you can see that I a brown.
I have brown hair.My growth is 168 sm and I have weight of 56 kg.
Eyes is blue. That to you to like.  You can see my eyes.
I have limited of sent letters.
Now I should go to work.
But I shall come later.
Your new friend Nadezhda.
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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2007, 07:36:42 PM »
June 18, 2007
My reply

Nadya

Your  English is very good. I understand everything. It is clear to me that you are highly intelligent woman. That is most important to me. More important than beauty. But you are also beautiful. I feel lucky to have found you.

I agree that sometimes different languages and communication over the internet can cause confusion about the meaning. I will try my best to be clear on what I say.

I enjoy the way you write English. I can almost hear the Russian accent I have seen so many times in movies.

Nadya, today is Monday at 8:45 am where I live. I own my own business so I am very busy. I can not write a long letter to you. You have written very nice letters to me and I want you to please continue. I will write better letter to you next time.

I am sending you another photo of me and my two sons. It was a picture taken of a  science class project to make electricity from the wind. I hope you like.

Tim
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2007, 07:39:50 PM »
Hello my Tim!
I have a free time again and I can continue write my letter to you.
I do not know a difference in time, but I think that it is a 5-10 hours.
Probably you now a sleep, therefore I think, that when you will wake up,
it will be pleasant for you to read my letters.
Probably you will ask me why I do not search man here in Russia?.... I shall answer you.
Here it is very difficult find a normal man. And I did not meet worthy men.
It were self-satisfied egoists for whom life and emotions of close persons did not interest.
In Russia very advanced a alcoholism, it is a illness of Russia.
I hope that you not a alcoholic? - joke.....
And all my relations with men came to an end for this reason.
I do not want to recollect now about my relations with these guys.
Now I not ready to speak about it because I have very fresh a wound.
But I want to calm you, I had no relations with men about one year.
I shall write to you the passion to sports, and other entertainment.
I ask you to not hurry, give me only time.
Therefore I hope, that our correspondence will result for us in more close relations.
Good example for this purpose, my girlfriend Nastya.
She has got acquainted with the man 2 years ago through the Internet.
They corresponded with him about one month and he has invited her to him.
One year ago they married and one year they live together in America.
I do not know where exactly they live, I only know that they live in America.
I hope that for you a distance between us will not be a problem too.
But now we can be only friends.
And I am very glad that I have found a new friend.
Now I should go but I hope that you will answer on my letter.
Very hope that I shall receive answer from you today.
Your new friend Nadedzhda!
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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2007, 07:41:42 PM »
Tim, do you notice there's NO reaction AT ALL to what you wrote on June 16 ::)?
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2007, 07:44:24 PM »
June 19, 2007

Nadya

Thank you for telling me about why you do not seek Russian husband. I understand what you say. Someday when you feel comfortable about it, I would like to hear about your like with men and problems you have experienced. But I can wait for that. No rush.

I was married for 14 years. When I married the woman, she was a great woman. But I made a big mistake. I allowed her to freely have friends with anyone and never discipline her for disrespect. Her friends had very bad relationships with men. I think my wife learned very bad things from them. Our marriage started having big trouble about the 12th year. I still do not 100% understand it. I never hit my wife or argue too much. I provide good home and money. I give her 100% freedom and we have two great boys. I dont understand her problem.

 Nadya, for me you seem perfect match.  But I agree with you that we should take time to know each other.  I am not in a rush to move fast in a relationship. I am very happy to talk with you and take time to know each other well. Time and distance is no problem for me. I have a business to run and I am always very busy.

Nadya, can you tell me what American movies you like? I want to understand your exposure to my culture and what you like about it.

I will send you another picture. This picture is at the international sailing competition. My son won a trophy for excellence in open Ocean sailing. I hope you dont mind I send pictures of me and my sons. They are my heart and my life. If a woman is to love me, she must except my sons as well. Please Nadya, I hope my sons are ok for you. They are always #1 to me.

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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2007, 07:48:08 PM »
Yes I did notice very little reaction to what I wrote. But I waved it off as language communication and cultural difference.

I wonder how many people have the balls to display their personal and corny letters to women on the net. Ill bet not many. LMAO! Ill bet I wouldn't do it if I knew anyone here. LMAO!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2007, 07:51:43 PM »
Hello again my Tim!
Many thanks, that you have written to me today I so is glad to you to write.
Therefore I very much hastened in Internet - cafe to write this letter.
Many thanks for a new photo, at you such remarkable children and you too good father.
You speak, that I have liked, if that is fairly you to me too have very much liked.
I had difficult day today because many children are sick therefore I had many visitors.
And I am very glad, that I can help all of them.
Unfortunately I have no phone, but I think we have normal dialogue through the Internet.
You me have asked what American cinema to me to like.
One of most my favourite films is film "Titanic", and to like you this film?
The population of ours city only about 17000 person.
But every year, the population decreases and the stream of sick children increases.
Health of children every year to become worse.
Near to mine village there is no the industry,
therefore many inhabitants of ours village is a hired workers.
The majority of people work on construction of buildings and houses in Moscow.
Economic pressures are driving people down all the time.
I hope that you heard, that Moscow, it is a capital of our country? - Smile.
Distance from ours city Zelenodolsk up to Moscow - 700 kilometers.
In employment cuty there are not enough places where it is possible to carry out a free time.
Therefore here it is boring, but who searches for that always will find... - so speak in Russia.
I hope that you will tell about your city, and his sights.
You already know that I a children's doctor, but at leisure I like to have a rest.
I have a hobby. I am engaged in east dances.
But I like slow romantic dancing too.
I am engaged in dances not professionally and I do not earn it money.
It is simple a hobby which is very like for my soul.
What are you do like to do in your free time?
I not professional, but I very much like to dance.
And I can tell as the doctor, it is very useful for health.
So I can support my physical form.
I do not drink or smoke. I never take drugs.
I am a very clean and humble woman.
Therefore I want to tell to you the truth.
I already wrote to you about my girlfriend Nastya,
she spoke me, that in the Internet many bad men.
They do not search for serious relations, they simply ask to send them nude photos.
I have sent some messages to men, and I have received from them only one answer.
All of them asked my nude photos.
I have given up to them, and have written,
that they never wrote to me because I do not want games.
And I am glad, that you not such as they,
and I very pleasant, that I correspond with such good man.
I shall continue...
I like to travel and I enjoy doing things like shopping and going to the movies.
I like the outdoors camping hiking backpacking.
I also enjoy working out at the gym, relaxing at home and watch a good movie or reading.
Already late and I should reach my house.
But I hope, that you will not leave my letters without attention
and will write to me the answer.
I send you a photo it is a belly dancing.
I hope that my photo like you.
I shall wait for your answer.
Your friend Nadezhda.
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2007, 07:54:00 PM »
Hello my Tim!
I am glad receive your answer again.
Each time when I enter into Internet - cafe I am glad to see your new letter.
In each your letter I learn about you new.
I am glad, that you write me about yourself and tell me as you live.
Today I want tell you about my work, and about my household days.
Worker days in Russia it is Monday - Friday (on Saturday and on Sunday everyone have a rest).
My work day is start:
I wake up at 06.00
I at once wash and I enjoy working out at the gym.
And after wash I prepare my breakfast.
For a breakfast I usually drink tea with a lemon and a small sandwich with sausage or cheese, sometimes I eat fried eggs
for a breakfast.
On all this I spend hour.
At 07.00 I go on a bus-stop that to reach by 08.00 to my work.
At 08.00 my working day is begins.
All doctors and nurses gather in office-room of a chief-doctor.
This our general-meeting, but between us we speak that we gather on "Planerka" on English this word is not translated.
We discuss all questions concerning the working day, and also a night-duty doctor reports for night work.
(sometimes I work in a night, but sometimes I work on week end).
A chief-doctor gives to us the order and the recommendation for all work day.
After we go with doctors on check of our patients which are on treatment directly in hospital.
We check our patients and we make of a decision on their treatment.
Or on the contrary, we conclude that the child is healthy and we let off them to home.
After check of patients I go to my office-room.
At 10.00 I begin reception of sick children.
If children very small together with them come a parents.
I know from my childhood, that children very much are afraid of doctors.
But for my patients I have in my office-room many various toys, basically are soft toys.
The majority of these toys I was presented by parents of children whom I have cured.
Therefore, when children come to me and see many toys, the toys distract of them and they are not afraid.
So I can quietly examine the child and define than the child is sick.
Both to make the conclusion, and to write medicines which are necessary for treatment.
But if I see, that the child is seriously sick, I accept the decision for his hospitalization.
From 12.00 - 14.00 I have a dinner.
I eat in a small cafe near with my work.
Sometimes at this time I write you, but sometimes I write you in the morning or in the evening.
With 14.00-16.00 I continue reception of patients in my office-room.
At 16.00 hospitalized patients of our polyclinic wake up and I do repeated detour of my patients.
At 17.00 my working day is comes to end and I go at home.
On a return way I visit a some shop and I buy products to prepare for myself a supper.
I have supper at 19.00 and further I look TV.
I like to look various films basically this is a comedies, TV-news, entertaining TV programs. Programs about animals.
And at 22.00 I lie down to sleep.
In the days off I like to walk with girlfriends in park, but it only in the summer.
Now coldly and park for a long time to walk it is impossible, because it is possible to catch a cold.
Now coldly and in the days off I sit at home and I look TV.
I leave on street only for visiting a shop to purchase of products.
It is interesting to me to learn about your days.
Your friend Nadezhda.
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« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2007, 07:57:02 PM »
Nadya

 I will try to reconstruct my lost email to you. Im very sorry I couldn't send it yesterday.

Nastya is correct about meeting men on the Internet. Most of them are looking for sex and nude photo's. I am a healthy male that also likes women and sex. I understand a man's need for females and sex. But I do not understand people getting sex and nude photo's on the Internet. To me this has no value and is a waste of time. I will not ask you for anything like that. But I do thank you for sending me your very beautiful photo's.

 

My daily routine is very long. I work 7 days a week from 7:00am to 23:00pm. I own the company but I still work long hours. This is my choice . I love my work.   I work with power and generators and alternative fuel. I burn coconut oil to make electricity and use wind power for electricity. Power generation is my passion.

 

I teach my sons my trade. I hope someday they will be great engineers. They are very smart and do well in school. I am a very proud father.

 

My hobbies are mostly in my work. But I also enjoy fishing, billiards, ping pong and working out at the gym.

 

Nadya, you are a very nice lady. Im excited to have a good friend like you. Maybe someday we will become very close and more than friends. Have you ever been to other countries outside Russia? I have been to Australia, Philippians, Korea, Japan, Canada and Mexico. I had planned a trip to Russia in 1991 but canceled due to work.

 

I hope you have a nice day and think about me.
 
The attached picture is of me and my son golfing.
 

Your best friend
Tim
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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2007, 07:59:51 PM »
Hello my Tim!
I always wait a free minute to visit Internet - cafe, to read your letters.
I am glad, that at school I studied the English language.
At our school taught two languages: English and German.
But to us gave a choice, our teachers asked from us what language we want to study.
I am glad, that I have chosen English and now I can write to you letters.
5 years I studied English at school and 5 years I studied English in Medical Institute.
I could not write to you letters if I studied German.
Probably is a destiny, that I studied English and now we can understand each other.
Certainly I can not sometimes understand expression which you write, but I can understand it on sense from other words.
I think that we should continue our acquaintance and I want tell you about my life.
I was born here in city Zelenodolsk in same hospital where I now work.
My mum has worked a nurse all life in this hospital.
I all time live here and never have left ours Tatarstan Ripablic.
In Russia the school education occupies 10 years.
School year begins 1 of September and comes to end in May.
In the summer all schoolboys have a rest.
In higher educational institutions (it in Institutes and at Universities) academic year is similar school year.
I have finished school well, therefore I at once without problems begun a study in the Kazan Medical Institute.
I already wrote to you that Kazan is capital of our Republic.
I city Zelenodolsk is located in 20 kilometers from Kazan.
Therefore, when I studied in Institute, I lived in a hostel of our Institute.
We lived with 4 girls - students in the room.
I very much missed without my mum, but I could come to her only on days off (in  Saturday and Sunday).
I have chosen Medical Institute , probable, because my mum worked in hospital.
And I since the childhood dreamed to be doctor.
I without problems have gone to work in our hospital because in rural hospitals, there are no experts.
All young experts want to work in city hospitals.
Because in city hospitals the new equipment and higher salary.
As speak about rural doctors they are patriots of the affair.
But I do not want to complain, because I very like my work.
I think, that very important do that you do are professionally, and qualitatively, and to put in it all soul.
I hope that you agree with me?
Has no value where you work, in city or in village, the main that from your work there was a big advantage to other
people.
I am afraid that you will be tired to read my letter.
But it is my life which is described in this letter.
I very interesting, if you will tell me about yourself also in detail.
I shall wait for your answer.
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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2007, 08:02:46 PM »
Nadya

I am always very happy to hear from you. I understand that the language difference sometimes is confusing. Thats why Im not telling jokes to you. Because you may not understand them.

My work day is always busy. I wake up early and have coffee while I check email. Usually around 0700am. I work on accounting and administration until about 1000am. Then I go on the road to meet customers and do business. About 1300pm, I try to start collecting money from customers and do banking. At 1600pm, I check on my workers and do maintenance of machines as required. At 1800pm I come home and file documents and check email again. I eat dinner and watch TV. Sometimes I work late till 2200pm before bed. I work everyday because I love my job. Every day is different but you get the idea.

I checked your weather in Zelenodolsk. It appears to be cool, about 18 C and cloudy with small rain on Thursday. Is that correct?
Do you live near the Volga River?

The attached picture is me and my two sons last year working on building fuel tanks. Sometimes I work too much.

Tim
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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2007, 08:09:18 PM »
Im intellectually convinced this is a scam. But part of me really wants to be wrong. If anyone out there thinks Im wrong about her. Please say so and give our reasons.

I also notice that this thread already has 50 views. Wow, Im not even done posting yet. LOL

I feel a little like the Opra show airing my dirty laundry on TV. But if it helps one person from getting scammed its worth it.

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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2007, 08:11:08 PM »
Hello my best Tim!
I think, that now I can call you - my best friend.
You know that I have written to you with serious intentions.
I already have learned better about you and I have told to you better about myself.
But today I want to brag, as I am able to prepare.
I already wrote to you about my friend Nastya.
When she has got acquainted with the guy to which has left later for America.
Her groom, but already her husband, long time dreamed to find a wife from Russia.
He knew, Russian women - very devoted wives and that we very good mistresses in the house,
i.e. all Russian women very well prepare.
But he has been surprised, a variety of dishes which is able to prepare for him Nastya.
In Russia speak, that the woman likes by ears.
But a way to heart of the man, the woman can receive, through a stomach of the man.
I.e. for the man is important not only exterior of the woman,
her inner world and understanding, but also that as far as she the good cook .
I am right?
I want to tell about dishes which I like to eat and prepare.
I like soups, fry meat, a fish, a bird, cutlets, mushrooms.
I like to cook mashed potatoes, pel'menis, salads, okroshka,
omlet, rassolnik, golubtsi, ploff, leche, varennik,
I like to bake a cake, pies, pancakes etc.
I can list all this infinitely.
I shall describe to you some Russian dishes that you knew about it.
Because I know that you use FAST FOOD.
From the first dishes I love a soup it's a borsch.
Borsch this is a soup with boiled beet, a potato, meat, cabbage, onions, pepper and a bay leaf.
This is very tasty soup, and it is very useful,
especially in the winter because it contains many vitamins.
On the second dish I am able to prepare Golubtsy.
Golubtsy it is meat mince with the onions,
wrapped up in cabbage sheets and stewed in an oven.
It is incredibly tasty dish. It sounds much worse than it is actually.
From dessert dishes I very much like a okroshka.
The basic components of okroshka: sausage, hard-boiled eggs, boiled potato, cucumbers.
From all these products is done a salad and all of this is filled in - kvass.
I am sure that kvass cook only in Russia.
Kvass is a freshening drink, which cooks from a mix of rye and barley malt,
rye flour or rye zwiebacks, sugar and water with the subsequent fermentation.
But it is not an alcoholic drink!
Certainly, I do not eat these dishes, daily,
simply I wanted to describe to you some Russian dishes.
I am able to prepare and many other dishes simply on their description I need a lot of time.
But if you were the visitor in my house I would prepare for you all this is dishes.
And we would have a romantic supper together with you, my dear friend.
I am now very lonely, but as it will be pleasant, come back at home from work and to see your lover man.
Prepare for him a dinner or a supper.
I very want, that my future husband came back at home a tired has seen me and has smiled to me.
I would meet him and have fed him with a tasty dinner. But now this is only  my dreams...
I see, that you very good man, we already know better about each other.
And I very hope that our correspondence will develop.
I think, what from these dishes, I would begin like to you, how the future wife?! - Smile, smile.
As it is a pity, that between us of thousand kilometers and you cannot simply come to me.
But I think, that it is possible in the future and you can taste dishes which I be able to prepare.
Very interesting to learn about your cuisine?
What dishes do you like?
I hope that you will write to me about it today.
Your Nadezhda.
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« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2007, 08:16:14 PM »
Dearest Nadya

It is true that we have many kilometers between us and I can not come to you easily. But, I have an excellent idea! I would like to contact Nastya in the USA. I will be traveling in the next months and I will visit Nastya and her husband so that she can report to you the kind of man I am. In this way, you will know me so much better than is possible on the internet and emails. Your close friend Nastya can be your eyes and ears and tell you all about me. Please send me Nastya's email and phone number. I will make contact from here.

You speak about cooking and being a good mistress to the husband. I understand this to mean that you maybe want me for your husband?  I am happy about this. I will now explain to you what is most important to me for a wife. These things I explain to you may be hard for you to understand. But I will try.

Firstly; I am not a violent man. I do not like to argue or fight. In 14 years marriage to my ex-wife, I never hit her. It was her that always argued with me. I do not like this. Therefore, I desire a very obedient woman to her husband. I need a woman that respects her husband never to argue. Nadya, that is most important to me. More important than beautiful body or good house mistress. I want #1 an obedient woman. Never never argue.

2ndly, I desire an intelligent and professional woman that can be understanding of business and why I work so hard. I do not want problems in my marriage because I work to many hours and neglect my wife at home. She must be understanding of this.

3rd, I can not marry a jealous woman.  My future wife must not worry about other women talking to her husband. My ex-wife was very strong in jealousy. Always accusing every woman of trying to have affair with me. I did not leave my wife. She left me. Divorce is very Ugly Nadya. Divorce is worse than a painful death. I do not want to ever divorce again. I must believe that divorce is not possible with a future wife. Please understand that.

You are young , beautiful and intelligent professional. Those qualities are perfect for any man in the world. I am very lucky you are interested in me. However Nadya, I am different than any other man.  I am easy to make happy but I am like a machine in some ways. I lack emotional response sometimes and my ex-wife complained that I am not so romantic. I think women need a romantic man. I am very gentle and caring man. But I am not romantic. You must know and understand this 100%. I do not want you to be disappointed in me. As our friendship grows to  become more and more close to each other, I think we will find those answers.

I feel it is important that I speak with Nastya  and her husband.  Then  Nastya  can email you the kind of person I am. I hope you agree.

Please have faith in me Nadya. I like you very much,. I do not want to discourage you. But it is necessary you hear the truth.

Your very best friend
Tim
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« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2007, 08:19:41 PM »
Hello dear Tim!
I am glad, that you have written me again.
I have read your letter and have understood,
that you very gentle and the gentle person that which is necessary for me.
Unfortunately now I do not have connection with Nastya.
It would be very interesting, if you have met with Nastya.
Unfortunately she has ceased to answer on email.
Now I can tell safely, that I have learned about you very, very better.
I am grateful to you, that in each letter you tell to me about yourself in detail.
We are correspond with you for not long time,
but sometimes I seems, that I know you already long time.
Sometimes I seem, that are you not in other part of the world,
I seems, that you near, here.
Do you had this feeling?
I wrote to you, that one year ago my mum has died.
I was alone, I was very lonely also I had depression.
I very much loved my mum, she always was near and suddenly she has died.
I was very lonely, certainly I had my girlfriends who tried to support me.
But the feeling of loneliness always pursued me,
especial when I came back at home from work.
I came at home, and sat at home in these four walls.
I felt, oppressed, disgusting duckling.
I was very difficult to make the decision
to get acquainted with a men from other country.
But here in our village among men,
there are no normal men who appreciate woman.
But I have decided and therefore I have sent you my message.
I am very glad that you did not ignore this message.
When you have answered me and we have begun correspondence,
for me it was similar to a ray of light in dull of sky.
Your letters for me very much darling.
Now you are not simply best friend for me, you for me very close man.
You have given me belief and hope for future.
I am very grateful to you for it.
I am very grateful to you, that you with understanding treat to my letters.
I was afraid, that you cannot find time write me answer,
but for some reason I was sure, that I shall receive your answer today.
Yesterday I had very difficult day on work because many children are sick of a flu.
Therefore, when I have come back at home,
I at once have prepared my supper and have gone to bed.
But before dream I thought of you
and when I have woken up today the first ideas were about you too.
Today nasty weather but as it is pleasant receive your letter.
Thank you, for support, your words have touched my heart.
You are very good person,
and are very a pity that you not near to me.
I have written to you in my last letter,
that you interest me as the men.
I want to tell you, that appearance of the man is not so important, as I thought arlier.
A appearance a men can be beautiful, but he can be a demon inside.
Yes I love beautiful men, but after his beauty, should be more.
I think, as the men considers to other people,
whether really he is a liar, materialistic, what he thinks...
I am interested in spirituality of men.
Before our correspondence I was difficult and lonely.
I needed someone who will be here for me and shares my same goals and interests.
And you have come to assist me through a difficulty,
to provide me with guidance and support to aid me physically, emotionally and spiritually.
The one person which has helped me this is YOU.
Your letters very expensive for me.
I have very much got used to your letters.
We are now simple friends, but I very much hope,
that our friendship will develop.
I already spoke you, that I visit dancing club with my girlfriends.
I did not speak them about you,
but today I have told him about you.
They spoke me, that they have noticed changes in me,
but they did not speak me about it.
Now they know the reason of my change.
My girlfriends asked about you and I have told him about you.
I have told them, that you very good and sensitive men.
They have told to me simply: Nadezhda it is destiny.
I have told, that now we friends, but you for me more than the friend.
And they have told to me that I have told to you HELLO from them.
I shall wait for your answer.
Your dear Nadezhda.
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« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2007, 08:23:08 PM »
Nadya

Each time you write me emails, I am very happy. Your photo's are amazing and beautiful too. I thank you for that.

This day I am very busy with my sons. So I can not write you a long email. I am sorry to hear that you have lost contact with Nastya. I would like very much to have spoken with her.

I showed your photo to my good friend. The said you look like my sister and maybe we are a relation. That is very funny but I do see some similar features in our eyes and face. Maybe you are my long lost sister? Very funny.

Do you have brothers and sisters? I have 2 sisters. I am the oldest.

My mother and father are both alive. However they are divorced since I was 7 years old. Both my sisters are married. My youngest sister is a medical person for Bayer Medical Facility. She tests new medicine on people in an effort to get Government approval of the medication for sale.

Im curious how the feelings Russian people have now for Americans. For many years in the old days 1940-1975, Russian Federation and the United States were enemies. I never met Russian people but thats what we were taught in school. Now I meet Russian people and I like them very much. Very similar too me. Funny how the world grows. Now I have Russian Girl friend and maybe Half Russian children in future. Very funny.

Tell your girl friends that I am happy if we meet someday and all have party.

Have a good day Nadya
Your American Man
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« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2007, 08:29:20 PM »
Well. thats it so far. Im expecting a note from her tonight.

So far She is a Doctor with no phone, lives a lone, mother is dead and doesn't know her father.

She had a close friend who married an American man but when I suggested I meet up with them on my next business trip she said she doesn't hear from her anymore.

Wow.... its so obvious now. Why didnt I see it before.

Ill keep printing her letters. The minute she asks for money her picture hits the net.

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« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2007, 08:33:02 PM »
Next letter should talk about how much she relies on you now or perhaps that she might have a way to come visit you.

Did you ask for her telephone number yet? Or her neighbors telephone? Everybody has a telephone there.

I see he/she doesnt mention your children. . . .

Why dont you suggest that you have found a way to come visit her and see what she says? Mafia and bandits roaming the streets, Mongol hordes pillaging, etc.

 

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