High End Match Making

[TigerPaws]

Rvrwind,

rivardco is right on track additionaly I would suggest ad's in publication targeted to those in the higher income brckets, believe me there is a big market out there you are totally unaware of.

TigerPaws

[ecr844]

Rvrwind,

rivardco is right on track additionaly I would suggest ad's in publication targeted to those in the higher income brckets, believe me there is a big market out there you are totally unaware of.

TigerPaws

"Tiger,"

Like this one?

http://www.robbreport.com/

[Rvrwind]

I am working on an exclusive section to Tver Angels.
You have given me food for thought & I have already started acting on it. My secretary has been on the phone all day contacting hotels, car & limo rental places, health spa's, theatres, restaurants & any place else we can think of that would be of interest to these men & their ladies, should they find one.
The initial contact is to feel them out on certain aspects as well as get a little info on their current service levels & what they offer. The next step will be to compile a list & then phone & make appointments with the Directors & go talk to them, check out the layout & take pictures & get solid price quotes.
After that we will build a web page within our website that will cater to this Exclusive Membership. At the same time we will recruit ladies. I have already made the list of criteria that they will have to fit into without exception. There are some very tight criteria as well as a hefty registration fee. Afterall if they want to hook a millionaire they had best be in a decent financial position themselves in my opinion. There are about 8-10 different criteria they will have to fall within including submitting to a background check & a police report.
They will not be posted in our regular Gallery & not available to any other clients. Only those who pay the registration, which will include free unlimited letter writing, will get to even see their pics or view their profiles. The women will be from Moscow, Tver, SPB & anywhere in between those cities or in close proximity. They will all be between 25-35, have no children, speak average English, never have been married & will not be permitted to be registered with any other company. They will be exclusive to us.
Thats sorta the track I am on right now but some things I may change or revise slightly before I set them in stone. Later I can consider the advertising in High End Magazines on line & in print. There is one constant in business & that is - It Takes Money to Make Money & that is where I always seem to fall short.   Advertising in such places is not cheap by any stretch & that will have to be figured into my pricing as well.
All in all not an easy task but if as Tiger alludes to, that there is a market, I am certainly willing to try & tap that market. After all, already having no money, what have I really got to lose??

[DKMM]

It all sounds ridiculous to me.  You should be able to find your own partner without it being arranged.  What I liked about Richard's agency was I got to write and meet girls there on my own and not have anybody else involved in the romantic decision/match making. 

If you are looking for a pampered luxury setting you just aren't going to have success outside of Moscow.

[Lily]

I got to meet this Peter Listerman cat:)

  rivardco, he works with Russians only.

Some UNverifyed yellow press info available online is here (for those who can read Russian)

http://www.compromat.ru/main/top50/listerman1.htm


 

[Rvrwind]

What I liked about Richard's agency was I got to write and meet girls there on my own and not have anybody else involved in the romantic decision/match making.

I will never get involved in that end of it in any way, shape or form. I'll give them exclusive & beautiful women they will not get anywhere else & I'll give them all the luxuries that I can throw together & all the advice they need or require & help them all I can along the way. Hell I might even take to wearing suits to give a better impression!!
Any romantic descisions are up to them & I want nothing to do with that but I got no problem with pampering them if thats what they want.

[Kuna]

DKMM,

I've been reading the thread and have to agree with you.

I've been trying to respond to some of the posts in here and I just don't know what to say...  here's some thoughtsthat have been rattling around in my head...

- Luxury holidays in FSU while wife shopping

After children he can take her for one of those platic surgery holidays too.  They seem to be popular even though the results are questionable.

- Maybe some people are too busy (or disinterested) or too important to be immersed in the culture of the place their visiting.  Shame they may miss some important life experiences along the way!

- Looking for fast and easy... to much like the modern culture of fast food for me.  It's never satisfying!

- More $'s = better wife...  Better wife gets better lawyer...  lawyers win again!

- Successful man is too busy for the search - so maybe he can get his secretary to search the profiles too.  "Sarah, get Trump on the line and find me a wife on www.hotrussianbabes.com.  Get me one that speaks Spannish this time because that last broad couldn't manage the housekeeper or the nanny.  



There's no doubt some men would pay for this... but I really wonder what everyone's goals are???

Are the sellers looking for big bucks or happy relaitonships?  I suspect some are salivating at the big bucks but would that make them any better than scam agencies if they aren't offering a realistic service with realistic expectations???

I dunno... to me it's just another example of people's thinking being a bit strange to me... but maybe I'm the strange one!

Kuna

[TigerPaws]

Let me for a moment take this discussion to another level, let us say that you have a highly sucessful company with facilities in 34 states, 1400 employees and annual gross sales of 350 million dollars. Now you own the company in its entirety, no investors and there is only 1 stock holder you.

Your annual salary is in the high six figure bracket and has been for a number of years but you have grown tired of the venture and as so often happens one of your competitors is tired of fighting you for market share so they offer to buy your company. The offer is fair and even after taxes you would realistically never be able to spend the money you would make from the sale of your company.

Ok! The deal is done and the money is in your bank accounts as well as properly invested making more money than you could possibly spend. What are you going to do? Start another business? Ah! But remember you are tired of that go, go go, work, work, work, life. So what do you do?

Travel you say? Ah! But you have already been to 132 different countries over the years and speak 4 languages. Hum....Collect fine art? You have already tried that, boring, so you sold the collection years ago. Classic cars you say. Ok do you really want to own a museum?

Put yourself in the above situation and ask yourself after I have everything I could ever want, need or desire, after I have seen everything I have ever wanted to see, after I have done everything I have ever waned to do, what do I do now?

TigerPaws

[Sohkay]

...Put yourself in the above situation and ask yourself after I have everything I could ever want, need or desire, after I have seen everything I have ever wanted to see, after I have done everything I have ever waned to do, what do I do now?

TigerPaws

I exhibits narcissistic behavior.

I should serve others and work to make some small portion of our world a little better.

[TigerPaws]

I exhibits narcissistic behavior.

I should serve others and work to make some small portion of our world a little better.

 

Ok! But not everyone feels that way are you implying that others should behave the way you feel is in the best interest of the world?

TigerPaws

[Sohkay]

Implying it? Hell no, I'm stating it!

But seriously, what you describe is a person who has focused solely on their own material desires and they come to a point where they realize that something is not quite right...hopefully. Because if they continue to seek material satisfaction as their primary reason for living, they are not a complete and whole person. I hope you do recognize that we are both physical AND spiritual beings. Focus too much on one or the other, and things go out of balance. Things fall apart. Life often then reminds one, sometimes in a not so pleasant manner, that everything is temporary.

[TigerPaws]

Implying it? Hell no, I'm stating it!

But seriously, what you describe is a person who has focused solely on their own material desires and they come to a point where they realize that something is not quite right...hopefully. Because if they continue to seek material satisfaction as their primary reason for living, they are not a complete and whole person. I hope you do recognize that we are both physical AND spiritual beings.  "spiritual beings" Sorry but 


Focus too much on one or the other, and things go out of balance. Things fall apart. Life often then reminds one, sometimes in a not so pleasant manner, that everything is temporary.

Temporary? Well at least we can agree on that.

TigerPaws

[Sohkay]

TigerPaws,

Whatever problem you are having, whether it is with your marriage, your existence, or whatever it is, I wish you luck in resolving it.

Take care.

[TigerPaws]

TigerPaws,

Whatever problem you are having, whether it is with your marriage, your existence, or whatever it is, I wish you luck in resolving it.

Take care.

Problem? No just a different set of values.

TigerPaws

[Wayne B]

Put yourself in the above situation and ask yourself after I have everything I could ever want, need or desire, after I have seen everything I have ever wanted to see, after I have done everything I have ever waned to do, what do I do now?

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[/quote]  Maybe add the word 'We'  (Family, Friends)

[batman]

Let me for a moment take this discussion to another level, let us say that you have a highly successful company with facilities in 34 states, 1400 employees and annual gross sales of 350 million dollars. Now you own the company in its entirety, no investors and there is only 1 stock holder you.

Your annual salary is in the high six figure bracket and has been for a number of years but you have grown tired of the venture and as so often happens one of your competitors is tired of fighting you for market share so they offer to buy your company. The offer is fair and even after taxes you would realistically never be able to spend the money you would make from the sale of your company.

Ok! The deal is done and the money is in your bank accounts as well as properly invested making more money than you could possibly spend. What are you going to do? Start another business? Ah! But remember you are tired of that go, go go, work, work, work, life. So what do you do?

Travel you say? Ah! But you have already been to 132 different countries over the years and speak 4 languages. Hum....Collect fine art? You have already tried that, boring, so you sold the collection years ago. Classic cars you say. Ok do you really want to own a museum?

Put yourself in the above situation and ask yourself after I have everything I could ever want, need or desire, after I have seen everything I have ever wanted to see, after I have done everything I have ever waned to do, what do I do now?

TigerPaws

Uummmm... spend countless hours looking for a trophy wife to hang on the mantle on my yacht?

Hire someone to find me beautiful Barby dolls from FSU and try each one out in bed until I'm exhausted or satisfied with one... at least for a little while?

Cruise around on my yacht informing everyone which port I'm in now, while searching Russian hot babe sites?

something like that perhaps?

[Kuna]

Let me for a moment take this discussion to another level, let us say that you have a highly successful company with facilities in 34 states, 1400 employees and annual gross sales of 350 million dollars. Now you own the company in its entirety, no investors and there is only 1 stock holder you.

Your annual salary is in the high six figure bracket and has been for a number of years but you have grown tired of the venture and as so often happens one of your competitors is tired of fighting you for market share so they offer to buy your company. The offer is fair and even after taxes you would realistically never be able to spend the money you would make from the sale of your company.

Ok! The deal is done and the money is in your bank accounts as well as properly invested making more money than you could possibly spend. What are you going to do? Start another business? Ah! But remember you are tired of that go, go go, work, work, work, life. So what do you do?

Travel you say? Ah! But you have already been to 132 different countries over the years and speak 4 languages. Hum....Collect fine art? You have already tried that, boring, so you sold the collection years ago. Classic cars you say. Ok do you really want to own a museum?

Put yourself in the above situation and ask yourself after I have everything I could ever want, need or desire, after I have seen everything I have ever wanted to see, after I have done everything I have ever waned to do, what do I do now?

TigerPaws

Tigerpaws,

Crazy analogy - but there are people out there like that.

IF they wanted a FSU wife and they'd travelled to 132 countries one could assume they've already been there... 

IF they were serious about finding happiness for themselves I would still hope they were adventurous enough to enjoy the experience by immersing themselves in the culture.

How about a person like this lives in FSU for a while to learn the language and culture and meets a woman through more normal methods???

Don't got me wrong... if we're talking about fleecing lonely people of their money... GO FOR IT. There's lots of that going on now but if you're thinking about "taking it to a new level" then I still think it's scamming.

Again,  just more of my bizarre thinking!

Kuna

[Rvrwind]

I don't see where its scamming if they are getting value for thier $'s. Scamming would be taking their $'s & giving them zip for it.
JMHO

[Kuna]

I don't see where its scamming if they are getting value for thier $'s. Scamming would be taking their $'s & giving them zip for it.
JMHO

Rvrwnd,

Maybe it's "fleecing" not scamming...  I'm not saying it's wrong but I'm debating in my own mind what value a guy would get in terms of finding a relationship (rather than the holiday aspect) and the things he would miss out on that are more valuable than the handholding.

I think DEFINITELY an information service on restaurants and activities (like you site provides on activities) is an EXCELLENT idea.  I just know that the handholding by a guide when I was in Kiev was incredibly frusting because I wanted to "get amngst it" rather than being shuffled from point A to Point B.

Maybe it just comes down to personal preferences...  Some men DO like the handholding and can't travel without...

[Simoni]

I don't see where its scamming if they are getting value for their $'s. Scamming would be taking their $'s & giving them zip for it.
JMHO

You are 100% correct, Richard.   Getting value often involves spending a little bit more and getting 5 times the value.  If you measure the square footage you pay for at a Motel 6, it's VERY expensive.  A 3 star hotel is acutally a much better value.

Personally, I go first class and I like to use the local services as I travel.  No, I don't rent limos.  But I eat at good restaurants. I rent nice flats. I don't carry 2 heavy bags 1000 yards to save four dollars on cab fare.  And I do spend more for a safe, clean cab in the FSU. It's my money and if I want to spend it I damn sure will.  I did hire a guide on my first trip to Ukraine, and he was invaluable.

Yes, I do camp and hike and do extreme sports.  But it's all about choice, and what the individual wants to do.  It's bad taste to try to apply one's standards to another's life...

[DKMM]

I'm with you Kuna.  I loved staying in that dump in Tver and flagging down rides in some horrible cars.  Or wandering around the streets alone and nobody knowing where I am except me.  Its all about being in control of your own situation.

But we are probably different than a lot of people or else we wouldn't be in the FSU anyway.

[Turboguy]

I exhibits narcissistic behavior.

I should serve others and work to make some small portion of our world a little better.

Well actually hasn't Bill Gates removed himself from the management of Microsoft and isn't he spending his time on philanthropic endeavors?   It may not be right for everyone but some faced with that problem do seem to follow that course.

I believe Andrew Carnegie's famous quote was he spend the first half of his life acquiring more money than he could ever hope to spend and he would spend the last half of his life giving it all away.

[Rvrwind]

I'm with you Kuna.  I loved staying in that dump in Tver and flagging down rides in some horrible cars.

Lets make it perfectly clear here, in case anybody is thinking otherwise, that you did not rent that 'dump' through Tver Angels. You chose the cheaper route & you got what you paid for as I warned you you would, correct?
So in a roudabout way you are proving Tigers point that you get what you pay for & some like Simoni like to get the best & are willing topay for it. I feel nogult if Iam giving themexactly what they are looking for.

No, I don't rent limos.

No problem Simoni, we can give you the option of a Chrysler, Mercedes & 2 other models I can't recall offhand. So you won't have to take the limo. Miind you the limo comes in white or black with a medium stretch or full stretch options. LOL We are so damn good we can size them for you, LMFAO!! Now thats sevice!!

I believe Andrew Carnegie's famous quote was he spend the first half of his life acquiring more money than he could ever hope to spend and he would spend the last half of his life giving it all away.

Sounds like a plan to me!!

[Maxx2]

I just checked out Richard's site last night. I am very impressed Richard!


Maxx

[Kuna]

HEY HEY HEY...  I don't want this to turn into another flame-fest...

A few things...

Simoni... I don't know what sort of travel you enjoy but a few things in your post suggest you enjoy a different experience to me.  That's fine with me dude.  In my mind it's not so much about the type of restaurants you go to or (within reason) the type of apartment you stay in...  travel for me is about the "local experience".

I have the impression these "luxury tours" that have been described take the local experience away... maybe I'm wrong?

I personally HATE staying in Marriott Hotels when I travel even though they are usually beautiful properties.  I don't like them because they have a single character where ever they're located... There's rarely anything LOCAL about them.

I don't eat in McDonalds or TGI Fridays either...

I LOVE struggling with language...  eating local food.. making "friends" with the phone card seller and the old babushka selling cherries...

I used a guide on my first trip and didn't enjoy the experience.  Maybe I had a bad guide and others would have suited me better?

As for your comment about my experience with my girl not wanted to take a taxi and carrying the shopping bags etc... Well you can blow that out of your a$$.      It's irrelevant to this topic.



Richard...  nothing I've said in these posts is any reflection on your plans to establish a "specialised service".

I've seen your site few times in the past and think the added services (fishing etc) you already offer are tremendous.

I just go back to the "vision building stage" of this thread and can see some people have got great ideas for fleecing some customers of unneeded money but I STILL wonder what the real benefits are.  I don't see "comfort, speed and efficiency as particularly important benefits when undertaking this journey.



Oh, Simoni... By the way I don't know how long it's been there but while you're in Dnepr you should try "Pastoral" (If you haven't been there before)... It was sensational! I don't have the address but if you go to the trolleycar stop at the end of European Square and walk in the opposite direction to Central Station you'll see it across the road at the T intersection. The food was excellent... they had an excellent cocktail list and the service was first class.

Kuna