NO WAY I'm GETTING SCAMMED ... but

[TigerPaws]

I have a question for you... is the big blue text a penis thing?

Why are you interested in having some surgery done?

TigerPaws

[ScottinCrimea]

Kuna, just call him Pappa Smurf.

[TigerPaws]

Seriously though...  I know that YOU know everything but I can assure you things are changing...  I guess that depends on where you are looking, sure in the large cities things are changing and not always for the best, still it is change, but try going to the smaller cities in rural Russia or Ukraine. We were in rural Russia not long ago and I can tell you things are much worse than you can imaging so maybe it depends on where you are looking.

How do I know???  You wear your start 8 years ago like a badge... My best friend here in Oz married a UW 12 years ago and he is the one telling me it's VERY different to "the old days". We travel in and out of Russia normally 4 times a year for between 2 and 6 weeks visiting family and friends so I d have a pretty good feeling for how things are going.

The economic climate has improved dramatically for one thing...  The women have been shafted by thousands of Western Men and there is much more caution now as a result of that...  Maybe you should travel a bit more beyond the major cities then you would know a bit more about what things are like for the rest of the country. I assure you things are very different in rural Russia.

The type of man now travelling and seeking marriage is also often different these days... How so, I have counseled a number of men and while I agree you are seeing men in their mid 30's instead of their 40's things have not changed all that much.

Everything else you said in your response was true... There's many different ways to reach your goals... Mass Marketing just isn't the most efficient - but it'll work for some... Maybe the mass market approach was and is not for you but everyone is different so your thinking is flawed.

Other variables???  WOVO/WMVM/Agency Powerdating/etc

Guide or no guide...

Age ranges...

We could go on forever but I think we should be able to debate what's effective, efficient, low risk and sensible...  Many things come down to personal choice but some things are just common sense! It is ALL about personal choice, there is no right or wrong only what works for each man.

TigerPaws

[TigerPaws]

Kuna, just call him Pappa Smurf.

Thank you.

TigerPaws

[Kuna]

TiggerPaws (sic)

The only thing you said above that I agree with referenced the villiages....  I didn't seek a wife from a villiage but those that do can choose to mass market, copy and paste, ignore the local culture, take many trips before finding "The One" and be happy that they too can always be right.

Kuna

[TigerPaws]

TiggerPaws (sic)

The only thing you said above that I agree with referenced the villiages....  I didn't seek a wife from a villiage but those that do can choose to mass market, copy and paste, ignore the local culture, take many trips before finding "The One" and be happy that they too can always be right.kuna

Ok so what is your problem?

TigerPaws

[Kuna]

No problem...  but I find you attitude and approach "curious"...

I think if you were more introspective you would be able to look at your own experiences and offer advice to others with the benefit of hindsight...

If we add up many of the things you say and put them in a book it would be a great guide for blowing buckets of time and money...

I'm not saying the approach I used was perfect, in fact there are things I would definitely change...  but reading your posts might make one thing you found the perfect formula in mass marketing and others might waste time doing it too.

There's a balance - but I find your arguments lopsided.

[TigerPaws]

Kuna,

Maybe it is because we come from different backgrounds, I come from 30 years of military training which teaches one to speak with authority and right or wrong to be to in command. If I sound as if my way is the only way I apologize it is not my desire or intent, there are many paths a gentleman can follow all of which are correct if in the end he fulfills his desired goals.

TigerPaws

[Turboguy]

Well I will have to agree with Kuna that I think things are a lot different than they were 8 years ago.   I had my first two or three trips under my belt at that time and the pickings were definitely much better.   Lets say that the women were more desperate in those days for what it is worth. 

I will also agree with Kuna that there are a number of techniques that can work and that so far I have never seen the perfect technique that is perfect for anyone. 

OK, now that I have agreed with Kuna on that much I will have to say that I have a pretty good idea of the details of what TigerPaws did on his first search and I think it would work just as well today and is a good pattern to follow for those who are so inclined.  I think it is a well refined technique that would produce results.

Kuna, It always seems to me that there is a bit of a pecking order here.   Bottom of the pile is newbies who have never made a trip.  Next up is searchers,  Next is the lowly fiancees not yet married like Kuna  who has made two trips total and I.   Above that are those who are succeeding in the trenches, guys like CatzMouse and Voyager.   Top of the heap are the old married couples like jb, KenC and TigerPaws.   Everyone is entitled to their own option but most guys are going to give more weight to anyone who has a long term successful marriage.    Kuna, you and I both need a few years of marriage to season us to be considered experts. 

[ScottinCrimea]

TG, it's not only about the number of years married.  You could have the guy who met one RW, married her, brought her to the US, returned rarely or never to the FSU or was very limited in where he traveled there and for whatever reasons managed to stay married and they would no more be a valid source of advice than a newbie who had at least done his homework.  You need to look at the experiences of each member to consider in what areas to lend them credibility.  For instance, I have never dealt with any agencies, so you find me conspicuously silent on the topic here.

[MaxxumUSA]

Kuna,

Maybe it is because we come from different backgrounds, I come from 30 years of military training which teaches one to speak with authority and right or wrong to be to in command. If I sound as if my way is the only way I apologize it is not my desire or intent, there are many paths a gentleman can follow all of which are correct if in the end he fulfills his desired goals.

TigerPaws

Tiger...

This is an Internet forum.  In text.  As such - Font Size makes a difference in how much authority you want to project in what you say.

 
The size and color of your text always screams that you are "screaming" very loud.



So...  If I want to say:  You're a jackass!

... then I would use some outrageous font and color.

Our normal way of speaking here is in standard font.  When we want to emphasize something we might use italics or CAPS.  We might even bold the text.



But...  Most of us here - and on other boards - use the standard font and size as a courtesy to others because it is:  1. Easier to read as our eyes are used to it.  2.  Easier to understand for existing and new members because we are unsure of when you are   Yelling.


Now... that was my comment on your font.

As for your posts since I have been reading from you...  I see other issues besides the font.  As others have noted I do see that you often think that your view is the right view and others are not of value ...at all!!

This is my view of your posts.

There are other men and women on this board that share your background in different ways but yet you project a sense of yourself that you might be "better" in some way.  Let me tell you please that there are some, possibly many men here that are:  veterans, decorated veterans, rich men (Very rich), men with beautiful woman that love them, men with great families, men with...  well... I hope you get the point.  It seems that you don't have respect for your peers.  And you don't get it that   WE ARE YOUR PEERS.

 Not your enemy.

And I can assure you that you are not the richest, best looking, smartest, strongest, or most intelligent man here.  I know... because I am!  LOL...  just kidding. But seriously...  I know...because none of us are.

Speaking with authority is OK in some instances.  So I will give it a try with you:

Give us a break.  Wake up.

[TigerPaws]

MaxxumUSA,
I will do as I DAMN WELL PLEASE if you do not like it ignore it now: -

TigerPaws
 

[DKMM]

I also think that the guys that have more recent experience have more relevant experience.  Someone who married a RW 8 years ago isn't going to be as tuned in to what's going on as someone like TG who's been there many times over the years and searched right up till the end of last year.  The thing is we have guys at many different stages and the old married guys have the best advice for being married and making things work right (and making good choices along the way too) but I don't know that they quite are the experts at the search phase for reasons Scott already demonstrated.

[ScottinCrimea]

It's all about common courtesy and respect for your fellow poster.  Apparently TigerPaws has neither of these.

[TigerPaws]

DKMM,

 I do not believe that anyone, past or present could begin to be classified as an expert at this, we can only relate what we know from experience everything else is up the the man to decide as he searched for a lady.

TigerPaws

[TigerPaws]

It's all about common courtesy and respect for your fellow poster.  Apparently TigerPaws has neither of these.

No it is just that I like 14 point type and blue, if you do not like it place me on your ignore list but as I said I will do as I please unless Dan says otherwise.

TigerPaws

[DKMM]

And let me clarify that i still take what you old timers have to say seriously.  After all, y'all made it work somehow so there is a lot to be learned.  I'm just saying that Kuna and Maxxum probably have more relevant information on some matters simply because they are on the same track as me.  I'm sure I'm not the only one.

[MaxxumUSA]

MaxxumUSA,
I will do as I DAMN WELL PLEASE if you do not like it ignore it now: -

TigerPaws
 

Ok

[Mir]

Well I will have to agree with Kuna that I think things are a lot different than they were 8 years ago.   I had my first two or three trips under my belt at that time and the pickings were definitely much better.   Lets say that the women were more desperate in those days for what it is worth. 

TG

Looks like you are still looking

What do you mean by desperate? Desperate for what?