Greetings from Milwaukee

[alantodd]

Hello everyone,

I have enjoyed reading everyone's posts the past couple of weeks.   So let me introduce myself.  I currently live in Milwaukee but spent most of my life in Detroit area.

I am engaged to a woman from Ukraine.  I met her on a blind date in July 2007 as I was in Ukraine for some vacation.  I was not looking to find love but it found me.  Well I have been back 9 times in the past year to see her.  Mainly Kiev where she lives and Sevastopol where her family lives.  I like Sevastopol but she prefers to be in Kiev.

She is 28 years old and I am 36 years old.  I also like AW and was married for 10 years but I want a lot of children and she did not want any.  It was nice to meet someone who wants 4 or more children and not interesting in working (actually raising kids is very hard work).  By the way, I am not looking for a house keeper as I love to cook and have a maid clean the house. 

Ukraine is a great country and I find the people in Ukraine to be very nice, including the men.

I look forward to hearing more from everybody.  I will be back again in Kiev on July 22nd.

[Jazzyclassy]

oi you are so welcome here

so nice to see the couple of  little age gap

this forum is great and you will love sharing opinions and things

I am sure this forum will reveal  some more interesting and special topics for you

best wishes

Jazzichka

[macman]

Hello Alan - welcome to the RWD!  I'm sure you will have some valuable input that we can all learn from.

HOWEVER,

I am engaged to a woman from Ukraine.  I met her on a blind date in July 2007

That's supposed to be <2007 I assume - OR, you work real fast!   

c ya
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[Jazzyclassy]

        That's supposed to be <2007 I assume - OR, you work real fast!   
       

he probably misprint the date, must be some 2004 or something

[Wayne B]

Welcome alantodd,  your jet lag must be horrible.....9 flights this month

[catzenmouse]

Welcome to RWD Neighbor!

 Congratulations on your engagement! Are you starting or have you filed the K1 yet? We're just an hour or so West of you in Madison.

Ken

[USCFAN]

Welcome ... and congrats on the engagement ...

[alantodd]

Did a misprint on date met.  Met her July 7, 2006.  Have filed K-1 with help of a law firm.  Alena should be here sometime this fall.  Until than, I promised her that I would fly to Ukraine every month.

Madison is a great town.  When Alena arrives in Milwaukee, we should meet sometime.  Her biggest worry is that she will not have Russian friends.  I have met a couple of Russians but mostly men in Milwaukee.

[MaxxumUSA]

Welcome.

Seems that you have made it a long way without the input of the board here.  But you certainly have a lot to offer as far as your experience.

Certainly look forward to hearing more about your experiences.  You're 9 trip reports behind.  LOL

BTW I am also engaged but to a RW.  Our K-1 is approved so far and her interview in Moscow is coming soon - Aug 21st.

Welcome again.

- David

[catzenmouse]

Did a misprint on date met.  Met her July 7, 2006.  Have filed K-1 with help of a law firm.  Alena should be here sometime this fall.  Until than, I promised her that I would fly to Ukraine every month.

Madison is a great town.  When Alena arrives in Milwaukee, we should meet sometime.  Her biggest worry is that she will not have Russian friends.  I have met a couple of Russians but mostly men in Milwaukee.

That would be great! I'm sure she make friends without too much problem. Once she get out and about a bit it will happen but no rush either. Let us know when things get settled down for you both after her arrival and we'll get together.

Ken

[SacramentoSteve]

Welcome to the board...

Your input will be well received here to newbies like myself with your experience traveling to Ukraine.

I am curious, what make you decide to vacation in Ukraine for your initial visit last July, did you visit other FSU countries as well?

[alantodd]

Hi Steve,

I was in Zurich for work in end of June  2006 and had a week of vacation but I needed to go to East Ukraine for work for a few days first (Lugansk).  Was actually work in Lugansk.  I than was going to go watch the World Cup "soccer" in Germany for a week.  Long story I ended up not going to Germany but went to Kiev and booked an apartment through a company that turned out to be a dating agency "Delphania".  I had no idea it was a dating agency until I went to pick up the apartment keys.  Anyways they talked me into meeting women and I met Alena after meeting about 10 women.  Alena was the only one who could not speak English.   The other women were great but to young for me as they were under 26 years of age (I was 35 years old at the time).  Delphania is a great agency but there women are looking for guys making a lot of money - if you do well for a  living I would recommend them.  Most of these girls have true intentions but they want a rich man and will get it.  I personally tend to like girls who like money.

I have been to every country in the European Union but never to Russia. 

Todd

[groovlstk]

Most of these girls have true intentions but they want a rich man and will get it.  I personally tend to like girls who like money.

All women like money, but I'd personally navigate a wide, wide berth around any FSU woman who specifically puts her desire for a "rich man" on the table as a prerequisite for dating a guy. 

[SacramentoSteve]

Hi Steve,

I was in Zurich for work in end of June  2006 and had a week of vacation but I needed to go to East Ukraine for work for a few days first (Lugansk).  Was actually work in Lugansk.  I than was going to go watch the World Cup "soccer" in Germany for a week.  Long story I ended up not going to Germany but went to Kiev and booked an apartment through a company that turned out to be a dating agency "Delphania".  I had no idea it was a dating agency until I went to pick up the apartment keys.  Anyways they talked me into meeting women and I met Alena after meeting about 10 women.  Alena was the only one who could not speak English.   The other women were great but to young for me as they were under 26 years of age (I was 35 years old at the time).  Delphania is a great agency but there women are looking for guys making a lot of money - if you do well for a  living I would recommend them.  Most of these girls have true intentions but they want a rich man and will get it.  I personally tend to like girls who like money.

I have been to every country in the European Union but never to Russia. 

Todd

Very interesting story, and ironic, atleast the story behind how you met. I'm glad you found someone you are happy with!

I must say it is interesting to read that you "personally tend to like girls who like money"  this is a first for me to hear a man say this, atleast on a message board such as this.

It of course leads to the obvious questions as to whether or not your girl has sincere intentions, and is into you or your money.

[Shadow]

I know this sounds very odd, but if both parties are open about what they want there can be worse things as a girl being in to the money.

[Kuna]

I had an employee a few years ago that boasted his new fiance left her husband to be with him because he had better earning potenital.  By the way, this little trio were all workmates!

Imagine how devastated he was when his fiance left him and explained she'd found ANOTHER guy with better earning potential.

The thing about women that love money is that they seldom realise the value of it.  If you WANT, you can spend money MUCH more quickly than you can make it unless you're one of the super-rich (and there's not many of them around).

My advice is to look for something more substantial than a love of money on which to base a relationship.

[alantodd]

I think what I wrote maybe misinterpreted.  I communicate better in person than writing.  I mentioned I like women who like money.  Does not mean that my partner's #1 priority is money or I want a gold digger.  I do like people who are generous with their money and share it with others.  Trust me a lot of women and men become greedy with money and do not like to share.

Most men want a beautiful woman who loves him and most women want financial security and love (having big muscles in the chest and arms not a priority for a lot of women I have met in Ukraine).  Financial security for some women means taking care of their family including there parents.  My fiance grew up very poor and some of her friends lived well as there fathers were connected to the mafia.  In fact my fiance prior to me was with a guy in the mafia who is very rich (worth tens of millions) but did not treat her well.  So she left him and decided to try dating agencies. This guy is still a big problem.  Some men cannot handle rejection.

Money is not her #1 priority but she wants her children to have a life she did not have growing up.  This does not make her a gold digger.  One thing she always dreamed about is having a large home on the black sea to share with her parents and children in the summer.  It is important to her that her children spend their summers in Crimea near Sevastopol.  She also wants a successful man as she knows when you have 4 children it is expensive to live well.  She lived during a time when food was short for the honest people but many people got rich being unethical.  She wants a loving, nice man, who happens to be very successful.  I think most women want this.  Most men want a model.  Most models marry rich men.

[Thor]

I think what I wrote maybe misinterpreted.  I communicate better in person than writing.  I mentioned I like women who like money.  Does not mean that my partner's #1 priority is money or I want a gold digger.  I do like people who are generous with their money and share it with others.  Trust me a lot of women and men become greedy with money and do not like to share.

Most men want a beautiful woman who loves him and most women want financial security and love (having big muscles in the chest and arms not a priority for a lot of women I have met in Ukraine).  Financial security for some women means taking care of their family including there parents.  My fiance grew up very poor and some of her friends lived well as there fathers were connected to the mafia.  In fact my fiance prior to me was with a guy in the mafia who is very rich (worth tens of millions) but did not treat her well.  So she left him and decided to try dating agencies. This guy is still a big problem.  Some men cannot handle rejection.

Money is not her #1 priority but she wants her children to have a life she did not have growing up.  This does not make her a gold digger.  One thing she always dreamed about is having a large home on the black sea to share with her parents and children in the summer.  It is important to her that her children spend their summers in Crimea near Sevastopol.  She also wants a successful man as she knows when you have 4 children it is expensive to live well.  She lived during a time when food was short for the honest people but many people got rich being unethical.  She wants a loving, nice man, who happens to be very successful.  I think most women want this.  Most men want a model.  Most models marry rich men.

Privet Todd,

Yes you are so right about this. The "model" looking girls in Ukraine wants rich men. They use they're beauty for a better life. The problem can be that many of this rich men seems to have more than 1 beautiful girl.... . I don't know if this happend to your girl, but this is very common in Ukraine.

And yes most men wants a beautiful girl. But to find the beautiful girls you sometimes needs to spend some money on gifts, travels, and so on to impress her.

It is hard work if you want to find the good looking girls. To find a average looking girl is easy. I am in Kharkov at the moment and I just came home from a day at the swimmingpool here (Club Arizona). It is a hot day in K :)Kharkov today!!