What women want...

[Hub]

Dar has been here for ages if I am not mistaken , plus she and her husband are not much of an age difference maybe 10 years,( but not like 30 years)  I do not think it is more even if it is more, she has chosen that herself , she wanted such mature guy who will be older I reckon,  plus she expresses her opinion and shares her experience  that this is her personal private choice , she is  not persuading young girls  to marry old men  like some members do here, she expresses her point of view  not implementing it to other people with different views and moral values, she is just showing her situation that's all.

OK, let's follow your logic Jazzy.  Dar has been here for ages.  So what does that mean with respect to anything?

Age difference of 10 years you say.  Dar said it made sense for man to marry woman 20-25 years younger than himself, and that is what her husband did.

She wanted an older man who would be more mature you reckon.  This is alright with you, but if a man wants a younger woman, it is not OK with you.  Here is quote of your words from another thread  " . . . . but it occurs that every 2-d man wants a young lovely babydoll for himself, I consider it to be the greatest curse in our 21 century!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

It is her personal choice you say.  You are OK with that.  But you are not OK with it if it is the man's personal choice.

You really are a feminist, but apparently you don't know it yet.

[Jazzyclassy]

OK, let's follow your logic Jazzy.  Dar has been here for ages.  So what does that mean with respect to anything?

Age difference of 10 years you say.  Dar said it made sense for man to marry woman 20-25 years younger than himself, and that is what her husband did.

She wanted an older man who would be more mature you reckon.  This is alright with you, but if a man wants a younger woman, it is not OK with you.  Here is quote of your words from another thread  " . . . . but it occurs that every 2-d man wants a young lovely babydoll for himself, I consider it to be the greatest curse in our 21 century!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

It is her personal choice you say.  You are OK with that.  But you are not OK with it if it is the man's personal choice.

You really are a feminist, but apparently you don't know it yet.

You do not know me at all , so if you think me feminist , think how you think I do not care

The thing is why I am loyal to Dar is that she is living her life with the man of her choice and does not come to forum with accusations and attacks and all those preachings  like Tiger paws and Ken C do regularly , Dar comes to forum very rarely and is not attacking and insulting people plus I think she might read the forum and know about the members's issues about this or that topic, I think many people know that I am against big age difference that is my personal matter, so that is why I am ok with Dar , I am ok with anyone here, it is just I am allowed to defend my truth before old guys who insult me all the time and completely feel no respect for me..

[Turboguy]

she is  not persuading young girls  to marry old men  like some members do here, she expresses her point of view  not implementing it to other people with different views and moral values, she is just showing her situation that's all

Jazzy, I enjoy your posts and like that you share your point of view even though I may often disagree with it. 

Here you say people here persuade young women to marry old men.   Would you care to give me even one example of that.  Can you give me one example?   Those who have this situation have said "It has worked for them but they would not recommend it for others every time I have ever seen.   I have never seen anyone recommend it as a course someone should follow.

On the other hand, you who have no experience with being romantically involved with an older man and are at an early stage in your experiences of life and romance, are quite vocal than any girl who does that is a fool.   I am not discouraging you from sharing your views I am just asking you to clarify your statement about those who try to persuade young women to marry older men.

[TigerPaws]

You do not know me at all , so if you think me feminist , think how you think I do not care

The thing is why I am loyal to Dar is that she is living her life with the man of her choice and does not come to forum with accusations and attacks and all those preachings  like Tiger paws and Ken C do regularly , Dar comes to forum very rarely and is not attacking and insulting people plus I think she might read the forum and know about the members's issues about this or that topic, I think many people know that I am against big age difference that is my personal matter, so that is why I am ok with Dar , I am ok with anyone here, it is just I am allowed to defend my truth before old guys who insult me all the time and completely feel no respect for me..

Jazzy.

What do you mean by "old guys"? When in your opinion does someone become old?

If as you say " am against big age difference that is my personal matter" then why do you berate and dismiss the people on this forum and other's who enjoy and flourish with an age difference that as you said you disapprove of?
 
What do you mean by "defend my truth"? If you mean your opinion ok but what is your truth?

Jazzy these are your own words so when you are upset that other people disagree with you it is because of what and how you express yourself.

TigerPaws

[I/O]

Turbo and Paws: You know, I feel a bit sorry for Jazz in this situation, she actually has to work quite hard and open her mouth to p!ss people off.  You two simply have to be around to acheive the same effect.  Kinda one sided don't ya think? 

I/O 

[TigerPaws]

I/O,

I try to cut Jazzy a lot of slack because of her English skills, but when she starts having diarrhea of the mouth and out right insults people she is going to get a response. Then Jazzy complains that people are picking on her, she sounds like a little girl sometimes.

TigerPaws

[I/O]

Paws: You missed the point again.

I/O

[TigerPaws]

No I just enjoy pissing you off 

TigerPaws

[I/O]

No I just enjoy pissing you off 
TigerPaws

No doubt that would be your aim however unsuccessfully.  Most of those here who know what they are talking about and have some genuine passion for this pursuit aim their attention at persuading others intelligently or listening to others attentively.


I/O

[TigerPaws]

I/O,

After you have spent a few years in country and have been successfully married for another few years maybe you will understand.

TigerPaws

[I/O]

I/O,

After you have spent a few years in country and have been successfully married for another few years maybe you will understand.

TigerPaws

What...?  That I would have the honorable aim of p!ssing people off?  No thanks.  BTW whatever that is that you are on......take it back, you paid too much for it.

I/O

[Turboguy]

No doubt that would your aim however unsuccessfully.  Most of those here who know what they are talking about and have some genuine passion for this pursuit aim their attention at persuading others intelligently or listening to others attentively.

I/O

I/O my point is that everyone I see in a relationship where there is an age differnce are not trying to persuade anyone about anything other than to make the comment that we are happy and belive our women to be happy.   We don't try to tell anyone else how to run thier life or that they should be doing what we have done or even that we think it is a good course of action for anyone.   

My only commment to Jazzy was that she implies otherwise and I asked her to give me one instance where any of us with an age difference recommended that others should do the same.   

[Lit_1nce]

I gotta wonder.. If Jazzy was a man, expressing her views on the age difference thing if would be taken so personally.

[Lit_1nce]

To get back on track..

What women want is based on each individual women. But if your going to generalize anyway, I would say they want what you want.. to be loved and taken care of.

Although another generalization is they would like you to produce a bathroom in the middle of nowhere on a 3 hour drive.

[catzenmouse]

Almost correct:

 You forgot the ever important descriptor word regarding the bathroom. "Clean" 

Although another generalization is they would like you to produce a bathroom in the middle of nowhere on a 3 hour drive.

[KenC]

I gotta wonder.. If Jazzy was a man, expressing her views on the age difference thing if would be taken so personally.

If a man came on here as outspoken as Jazzy, making outlandish incorrect statements of the facts and attacked members (as Jazzy often does) he would be verbally beat to the ground.  The closest example that comes to mind is out ex member Jinx.

It isn't so much her viewpoint that is disturbing, but her creative use of the "facts" to support them.  Jazzy is against marriages with large age gaps.  Fine she is more than entitled to that opinion.  But do not make up "facts" to support your opinion either.  In another thread she said that every other member wants a woman under 25 and that most men here think that women over 25 are useless.  Well in that particular thread, there were 13 men participating and I know personally that 11 of them have expressed just the opposite opinion.  (The 2 guys were not included because I didn't know their stance on the issue.)  Her statements simply were not true.  Faulty conclusions based on incorrect information has to be pointed out IMO.  Just because one declares incorrect "facts" with bravado, does not make them any more correct.
KenC

[Gator]

Lit wrote,

Although another generalization is they would like you to produce a bathroom in the middle of nowhere on a 3 hour drive.

With RW you should have no such problem. 

I have taken a few road trips with RW/UW.  Unlike other women of the world, they will pee behind a tree without hesitation and without complaint.  Gotta love it! 

[KenC]

Lit wrote,
With RW you should have no such problem. 

I have taken a few road trips with RW/UW.  Unlike other women of the world, they will pee behind a tree without hesitation and without complaint.  Gotta love it! 

I have experienced that the tree is of course optional.
KenC

[Gator]

I have experienced that the tree is of course optional.

When the tree requires a walk through tall weeds, the shoulder of the road will suffice. 

Meanwhile, I walk to the tree and before I am finished she is blowing the horn for me to hurry up.

[SANDRO43]

Meanwhile, I walk to the tree and before I am finished she is blowing the horn for me to hurry up.

Getting out of the "rough" is often difficult, you should try sand bunkers as an alternative .

[KenC]

When the tree requires a walk through tall weeds, the shoulder of the road will suffice. 

Meanwhile, I walk to the tree and before I am finished she is blowing the horn for me to hurry up.

Gator,
I think you are misinterpreting the horn blowing.  She wasn't trying to hurry you, just applauding the performance!  (Or trying to bring attention to others! )
KenC

[catzenmouse]

Just because one declares incorrect "facts" with bravado, does not make them any more correct.

This is why I (and apparently some others as well) have a problem with a large proportion of the posts of Big Blue.

While I agree that there are a good many times when Jazzy types first and engages brain later I do not feel that her posts are intentionally nasty or to provoke a negative agenda. I do feel that quite often this is the intent from the General/PHD/Admiral/Daddy War Bucks.

Ken

[Wayne B]

Or intelligence is showing that at the end of the day....we are yet an animal.....I wonder what our close relatives the Monkey....thinks about us pulling over to the side of the road...to pee... I can only in vision and mind....think that they are   ...at how we try to hide....what is a normal situation

[Daveman]

What do women want....

hmmm, to answer that... some other information is necessary... what day is it? what time of day is it? Has she been awake for more than an hour? did she sleep well? Have you done anything bad or good lately (in her eyes)? 

If I knew the answer to this one, I'd be selling Ebooks... and maybe create a new religion 

As far as the tree theory.. I'll never forget this stunning, feminine specimen in Crimea on one of the castle grounds, suddenly blurting out "one moment" and leaping over a 4 foot (1.3 meter) stone wall and disappearing into the woods... what she accomplished there still remains a mystery... 

[Wayne B]

This is why I (and apparently some others as well) have a problem with a large proportion of the posts of Big Blue.
Ken

I think maybe given wealth....not earned...but, maybe I am wrong