What women want...

[Jazzyclassy]

What women want- they want simple understanding and moral  support!

I was laughing reading your comments towards me guys you obviously will never ever have an idea about how different people can be and how they percept the information and how they can understand this or that situation, they have their own piece of mind.

Dear Turbo I do not need to give the facts of the  thing that almost every old guy here who is after a young girl by all his words and points of view and attitude shows which particular woman he wants, when some guys are taking   pictures of very young girls, talking maybe in joking way about young beautiful, hot sexy girls who are there walking on the streets of Ukraine and Russia , talking about students when they are no way near from being  students and bla bla bla and almost all of you are applauding those passions for young girls. You want facts sure never a problem, read any trip report you care to choose.

Then again most of guys here are married to the girls who are much younger than them, so though THEY DO MODESTLY TELL THAT WOW I NEVER COULD HAVE DREAMT ABOUT SUCH A LUCK IN MY LIFE TO BE WITH THIS PARTICULAR WOMAN  IT IS JUST SHE HAPPENS TO BE MUCH YOUNGER THAN ME- oh what a coincidence,half of our forum guys are married to such young women , what a luck , really indeed:P We already talked about this in many other topics, so it is time to get used to the situation, people has their own way to do things and have their own choices.

Look guys let’s just cut it off here about age difference you are all happily married am  glad that you are happy and it is what suits you , it is great you found your love , it is always wonderful. I would kindly ask you not to laugh at my moral values and respect my choice and my opinion , I might be wrong in many things, maybe too way emotional , reacting at your comments too way concerned and take things close to my heart, Well I am like that , I was always like that and it is hard to change one's nature in a second and I wont try doing it, you have to understand that in my family I was taught different things what you have been , and I never insulted anyone, by telling that you are old – it is not an insult it is true,  you call me a kid – I am not claiming it is an insult . If you are 60 then how can I call you?when I am 60 if I ever live that long  I will be old for sure.
Let’s respect each other really , suddenly you came to a point you need to find someone to be bullied and that is me, please stop it , you like to argue but you have chosen a poor method to deal with sensitive person like me, sometimes it sounds like many of  you never had children or friends or  and just people around you , as you are reacting this way . My native language is not English I might misunderstand many facts and statements, I am sorry if I hurt anyone in this case.

Have a good night everybody:)

[KenC]

Jazzy,
A well written and well thought out reply.  You make some very valid points.

I still think you need to get over the concept that disagreeing with you is bullying though.  A spirited debate of ideas is not a bad thing to me.
KenC

[Mir]

Someone asked in another thread if one can understand FSU women by reading the book :'Men are from Mars.....

I have found that there might be an equivalent of that book written by a young Ukrainian writer Irena Karpa called:'Bitches Get Everything'

http://www.whatson-kiev.com/index.php?go=News&in=view&id=2279&PHPSESSID=15572d99e1a2fcd9a4db99607ca6fcb1

[TigerPaws]

You do not know me at all , so if you think me feminist , think how you think I do not care

The thing is why I am loyal to Dar is that she is living her life with the man of her choice and does not come to forum with accusations and attacks and all those preachings  like Tiger paws and Ken C do regularly , Dar comes to forum very rarely and is not attacking and insulting people plus I think she might read the forum and know about the members's issues about this or that topic, I think many people know that I am against big age difference that is my personal matter, so that is why I am ok with Dar , I am ok with anyone here, it is just I am allowed to defend my truth before old guys who insult me all the time and completely feel no respect for me..

Jazzy.

What do you mean by "old guys"? When in your opinion does someone become old?

If as you say " am against big age difference that is my personal matter" then why do you berate and dismiss the people on this forum and other's who enjoy and flourish with an age difference that as you said you disapprove of?
 
What do you mean by "defend my truth"? If you mean your opinion ok but what is your truth?

Jazzy these are your own words so when you are upset that other people disagree with you it is because of what and how you express yourself.

TigerPaws

[Lit_1nce]

Actually I think the phrase "my truth" makes sense.

If you believe something, then your opinion on it would be true to you. To state an opinion you didn't believe in would be lying.

If she had said "the truth".. then I could see being upset, because that would imply that others with other opinions would be wrong, and hers was the only "true" opinion.

At least that's my truth on this subject.

[ScottinCrimea]

Tigerpaws seems to take offense to being called old.  That is his own personal insecurity so no need to take offense when he replies defensively.  I wear the badge with a little more honor.
     Jazzy, I have noticed that your English has improved dramatically, maybe as a result of your involvement in this forum, maybe not, but it is noticeable and I congratulate you.
     As for me, was I after a younger woman?  My wife is 15 years younger than me.  I dated many women of various ages, some older, some younger.  Ultimately it came down to two women, my wife and one 3 years older.  Both had unique qualities and I think I would have been happy with either, but the bottom line was that I was truly in love with my wife and not this other woman. Certainly my wife's youth added to her appeal, but it was not the deciding factor.  I honestly cannot say what swayed my decision in my wife's favor but the bottom line was that I loved her and not this other woman.

[KenC]

Scott,
All that you say is great, but as Jazzy pointed out, you (as I did) still ended up with a woman significantly younger.
KenC

[ScottinCrimea]

KenC,  Accidents do happen. 

[I/O]

KenC,  Accidents do happen. 

Accidents of this nature don't happen. We, as guys make a decision in the end. I was very leary of the younger woman / age gap thing.  I phrigged around for ages trying to make up my mind if I even wanted to get seriously involved.  I admit to having one hand on the "Auto Eject" button all the way, but in the end, I did make that decision.

I think Jazzes point was that we who have gone this route have told our story by picture and our words stating that we don't reccommend the age gap thing are simply not supported by our actions.  If my understanding of her angle is correct, the bottom line is she has many of us "On Toast".  I hate that.

I/O

[Jazzyclassy]

Actually I think the phrase "my truth" makes sense.

If you believe something, then your opinion on it would be true to you. To state an opinion you didn't believe in would be lying.

If she had said "the truth".. then I could see being upset, because that would imply that others with other opinions would be wrong, and hers was the only "true" opinion.

At least that's my truth on this subject.

thank you , that was really my point of view and that was how I thought about it!

Tiger paws  , will you be happy if I call you young gentleman maybe your money can do anything , maybe they can buy you youth . The only thing I wish if I ever live that long cos I think I will die early with my sensetive structuve of my soul, I hope  Iwill be happy with my age and wont screw young people

Scott , Ken C I think  I do not know what to say else I 've expressed my point of view  already I hope you understand ,

Scott, I hope that my english is improving , thank you for the compliment:)))

I/O  some cases of age gaps marriages I praise and trully understand  and support, as see no other way they could do  in their both lives for example, that they were meant to meet

[Mir]

I/O  some cases of age gaps marriages I praise and trully understand  and support, as see no other way they could do  in their both lives for example, that they were meant to meet 

That is the reason (err excuse) that 90% of those married to much younger women would give (maybe even believe it in their heart)

The remaining would say:

Any reason you aimed for a girl who was so much younger then you?
Mir,

Short list of reasons, Prettier, less baggage, hot body, no children yet (hopefully) because I could, why not, older is not necessarily better. Hum.... Those are the politically correct reasons.

TigerPaws

Which one is the real reason for each individual? Only god knows that.

JC

I can assure you that you have little chance of dieing early because of your sensitive nature. People who are expressive, who are very verbal and speak out all their concerns/worries usually live a long life. It is the shy, quite ones that die early as they keep all inside

[TigerPaws]

Jazzy,

"If" you had bothered to read my question "Jazzy. What do you mean by "old guys"? When in your opinion does someone become old?". You would know I was asking you a specific question and that I made No mention of myself or anyone else.

Of course Now you will say that you are being picked on Again!

TigerPaws

[Jazzyclassy]

   JC

I can assure you that you have little chance of dieing early because of your sensitive nature. People who are expressive, who are very verbal and speak out all their concerns/worries usually live a long life. It is the shy, quite ones that die early as they keep all inside
            

maybe from the doctor's point of view yes, but life shows that such people who take things so close to their heart do not live long that is for sure, they nerve and immune system is wearing out quickly  and heart attack strikes them ,my amazing lovely grandma was always taking things close to her heart and was worried about so many people , as a result she died being 63......

[Jazzyclassy]

Jazzy,

"If" you had bothered to read my question "Jazzy. What do you mean by "old guys"? When in your opinion does someone become old?". You would know I was asking you a specific question and that I made No mention of myself or anyone else.

Of course Now you will say that you are being picked on Again!

TigerPaws

Tiger , you mean you are young in your soul? well maybe , but you still are living in your world , how old are you ?

I am 24 and I am definitely not a teenager anymore so if anyone will call me a young woman I wont be insulted cos I am a young woman not a teenager, the same is with you  if you are 60 you are old person there is nothing to be ashamed of, it is reality and truth

[Jazzyclassy]

Jazzy,

"If" you had bothered to read my question "Jazzy. What do you mean by "old guys"? When in your opinion does someone become old?". You would know I was asking you a specific question and that I made No mention of myself or anyone else.

Of course Now you will say that you are being picked on Again!

TigerPaws

Did you say anything here??

changed my post on purpose

[TigerPaws]

Tiger , you mean you are young in your soul? well maybe , but you still are living in your world , how old are you ? Jazzy at 24 someone in their 50's looks old to you right now, when you are in your 50's someone in the grave will be old. It is all a matter of perspective. As for my age, older than you and younger than you think .

TigerPaws