I am 40 years old...but...

[Adrian]

T/G,

Adrian is obviously an old hand with the RWs, he's already giving out advice to the newbies on another thread about dating younger woman.

Adrian, how many times did you say you've been to the FSU?

Oh, I didn't realize that I had to go to the FSU to know about women. Is that the only place in the world you have experience with women?

[Ste]

I am here to let people know that they should not be limiting in their beliefs.

I see many people here spouting off about how they think a man should act or what age they think is appropriate for someone to dater/marry/whatever. They only people who can decide whether you are right for each other is you and the girl.

Decent response.

I'm 46, Nadia is 24. But I read her like a book and she me. That's the key, age/colour/religion doesn't matter. Knowing does.

[jb]

Oh, I didn't realize that I had to go to the FSU to know about women. Is that the only place in the world you have experience with women?

It's the only place to learn about FSU women.

P.S. Tell me where your mother was 40 years ago, I may have dated her.  Don't get cute, you are outta your league here.

[Adrian]

It's the only place to learn about FSU women.

P.S. Tell me where your mother was 40 years ago, I may have dated her.  Don't get cute, you are outta your league here.

Ahh, I see, you are of course wrong. There are many women from the  FSU  and former Soviet blocs in my city. But, I will play along.

So tell me what is so different about a 21 yr old N American girl and a 21 year old from the FSU who LIVES in the FSU? Do they have different instincts? Did they evolve in a way that is distinctly different from N American women?

Do they have three breasts? Two vaginas?

Do tell.... 

p.s. I will ignore your personal attack about my mother. It says a lot about your upbringing though and the type of "man" you are.

[Bruce]

Its the weekend, when the trolls come out to play  .  Still waiting for that stud photo Adrian - or are you really an old hag typing from under that bridge?

[jb]

p.s. I will ignore your personal attack about my mother. It says a lot about your upbringing though and the type of "man" you are.

No, not a personal attack on your mother here, just a question about where she lived 40 years ago.  I'm a traveling man, I've been in a lot of places in the last 40 years,,, and I've had a lot of women.  I may have loved her well.  Was she perhaps in San Francisco 40 years ago?  Your age says she was a flower child of the 60's, those girls were the easiest lays I ever had.  You were not around during my upbringing so you have zero viewpoint to comment on that.  As far as the "man" I am, I'm probably more man at 60 than you are at 40 ,,, richer, smarter, and better educated.  Is there another yardstick you'd like to use?  Give me your best shot.

[Adrian]

No, not a personal attack on your mother here, just a question about where she lived 40 years ago.  I'm a traveling man, I've been in a lot of places in the last 40 years,,, and I've had a lot of women.  I may have loved her well.  Was she perhaps in San Francisco 40 years ago?  Your age says she was a flower child of the 60's, those girls were the easiest lays I ever had.  You were not around during my upbringing so you have zero viewpoint to comment on that.  As far as the "man" I am, I'm probably more man at 60 than you are at 40 ,,, richer, smarter, and better educated.  Is there another yardstick you'd like to use?  Give me your best shot.

Your upbringing is quite apparent in the way you respond on this board.

Again, your post speaks for itself.

I guess you have nothing else? Goodbye...

[jb]

Adios, MF~!

Don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out.

What a jerk!

[William3rd]

And as we say goodbye to another 7 post wonder, he wanders off to have an enema and a handful of ex-lax to clear that blockage. . . . . .

[jb]

I doubt it'll be that easy,,, he will probably make a PC complaint to board management, and I'll get my hand slapped...  I say he's still a jerk, and his mother is still under a cloud for her amoral activities back in the 60's...  Prove me wrong.

[William3rd]

He's back. Maybe he will be an 8 post wonder. . . . .

[Adrian]

Adios, MF~!

Don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out.

What a jerk!

With each subsequent post, you make yourself look WORSE.

It is actually quite amusing to watch you sputter in anger and spout filth from your foul mouth.

Do continue.. I am actually enjoying watching you make a fool of yourself in front of your peers.

[jb]

Adrian,

Do you know to whom you address your remarks?

[William3rd]

Hmmmmm- the only fool I see is the now 8-post wonder. He really shouldn't talk to his father that way.

Yo Adrian- next time you say goodbye, do us all a favor and really, really, REALLY mean it.

[jb]

I'm still waiting for the photograph that shows a 40 y.o. man, who looks like a 28 y.o. man  Until I see hard photo evidence, I'm going with a 40 y.o. who looks like a 40 y.o. man, not an idiot who has convinced himself he looks like a 28 y.o.  Delusion is a hard world to live in.

[William3rd]

More likely a 16 year old who is trying to overcome his dysfunctional manhood by posting here

[Admin]

With each subsequent post, you make yourself look WORSE.

It is actually quite amusing to watch you sputter in anger and spout filth from your foul mouth.

Do continue.. I am actually enjoying watching you make a fool of yourself in front of your peers.

Adrian,

Like any community, there are some members who are well-known and are accepted, and jb is among those - for his knowledge, insight and willingness to contribute productively. He also is a first-rate troll basher.

jb, like some others, has a strong reaction to those who appear here and are disingenuous or arrogant.

Your initial post appeared to offer a little of both - and it was an obvious baited post to evoke a reaction. As I said in my earlier reply to you - you will get one, although probably not the one you expected.

My advice (FWIW), if you are interested in being an accepted and productive member here - the mere acknowledgment of your baiting post - and possibly a slightly less auspicious introduction would go a long way toward creating some acceptance.

- Dan

[I/O]

So tell me what is so different about a 21 yr old N American girl and a 21 year old from the FSU who LIVES in the FSU?

Just about anything you care to name from formal education to language to dress style to elocution. If you wrote a page in small print you might have scratched the surface. Maybe.

Do they have different instincts?

Yes.  Very...!!!

Did they evolve in a way that is distinctly different from N American women?

Betcha arse they did.

Do they have three breasts? Two vaginas?

Prolly similar to your three hands......so you can pull both dicks together at the same time grasshopper.

As for your opinion regarding who should marry who, you may have missed the fact in your arseholish attitude that a goodly number of the senior guys here are or are about to be married to FSU women. I actually have two of them living in my house right now.  You can't buy the knowledge of experience like that but here, there is a big bonus, you can get some information for free. You simply need to get the proportion of your eyes and your mouth into perspective. IE: You have two eyes and one mouth...............well for the moment I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that.

I/O

[Mir]

40 year olds can look 28 if they act like they are 14, it is quite simple.

Oh another thing, one does not have to work out 3 times a week and avoid junk food etc to date much younger women, I have seen many ugly, old and overweight men with pretty young things in FSU and in other countries as well, so Adrian you are killing yourself for nothing just relax and have fun

[Adrian]

More likely a 16 year old who is trying to overcome his dysfunctional manhood by posting here

What do you keep going on about? You keep posting in this thread trying to get my attention. Poor you.

Are you the gutter mouthed old guy's side kick or something?

There... I acknowledged you.. do you feel better now?

Now run along and leave me alone..

[Admin]

What do you keep going on about? You keep posting in this thread trying to get my attention. Poor you.

Are you the gutter mouthed old guy's side kick or something?

There... I acknowledged you.. do you feel better now?

Now run along and leave me alone..

Adrian,

You seem to not accept my suggestion for trying to seek a bit of reconciliation - OK.

You posted an intro which was clearly designed to evoke a reaction. You got it.

Now that you instigated a reaction, you want to engage in an unproductive banter.

Is THAT the reason you joined RWD?

If not - what, exactly, is the reason you joined RWD?

- Dan

[Adrian]

Adrian,

You seem to not accept my suggestion for trying to seek a bit of reconciliation - OK.

You posted an intro which was clearly designed to evoke a reaction. You got it.

Now that you instigated a reaction, you want to engage in an unproductive banter.

Is THAT the reason you joined RWD?

If not - what, exactly, is the reason you joined RWD?

- Dan

Dan,

I never attacked any of these guys personally. Go back and read all the posts.

My reason for joining this board is because my opinions differ from those offered by the establishment here.

Do you want all your members to hear a chorus of uniform opinions?

Or is dissent allowed?

Does having a contrary opinion mean that one is contributing in an "unproductive" manner?

[Admin]

Dan,

I never attacked any of these guys personally. Go back and read all the posts.

My reason for joining this board is because my opinions differ from those offered by the establishment here.

Do you want all your members to hear a chorus of uniform opinions?

Or is dissent allowed?

Does having a contrary opinion mean that one is contributing in an "unproductive" manner?

Adrian,

If you take the time to read our Vision statement - and many of the posts on the board, you will find that we encourage diversity of opinion and vigorous discourse - provided it is aimed at a productive outcome.

What I have seen - and I tried to point it out to you a couple of times is - you came on-board and then immediately sought to engage in a controversy. Controversy for controversy's sake is NOT a productive pursuit.

I've tried to nudge you in a direction which would possibly get you to a productive 'space' - but instead, you chose to retaliate and escalate some of the very reaction which you instigated.

Most fora would consider that behavior trollish. Instead, I chose to believe you maybe just 'got off on the wrong foot'.

So which is it? Are you here merely to stir a controversy (as you stated) - or engage in productive discourse? Choose carefully - as taking the productive route means that you, too, might need to alter a bit of your 'style' and be open to changing an opinion or two.

- Dan

[I/O]

You know what, you guys that get pissed off about this are just a bunch of jealous haters.
I will leave the haters to writhe in jealousy!

Adrian: Please indulge me a moment to explain in the simplest terms I can. There is a bunch a pretty decent and successful guys here. Not only successful with FSU women. Most likely they became that way by bucking the system at times and also following logic at other times. We all have and do at times.  BUT the reason many here advocate caution to the extent of clue batting the blind masochists is that we happen to know what being on the inside of a cross cultural age gap relationship is all about and we happen to know some of the pitfalls first hand. None of us give two rats tails what anyone does, but WE ALL hate seeing people get hurt and wasting time, money and emotions chasing rainbows.

Further we HAVE ALL seen the hype that young FSU hotties are drooling after old western farts.  We have learned that this is not the case and are about to help a few others by calling the warning. If you look 28, (Well done you..!! All respect a guy who takes care of himself including the FSU women) I can assure you that it won't make one iota if difference to a goodly number of FSU women in the final washup.  They are much more discerning than that.  Familiarise yourself with an old Russian womens saying.  I want a "WORTHY" man and a little better looking than a monkey is good enough.  (Thank God.....that let me in)

You will find the guys who really know their stuff have come to respect JB (And a few others) very highly.  The more I know (From my own experience) the more I gravitate to JB's posts, because one thing I can assure you, he has his own methods and opinions, but he knows his shcit and he wont bullschit you.  Just the sort of guy you need in your trench when you are under fire. Believe me, if you ever make it into Russia on a dating spree, the first thing you will feel is as if you are in a trench under fire. Think about it.

Your comments as I have quoted them above, are hardly productive.  Discent? For what reason? Discent or change for the better? Think about this also.

I/O   

[Misha]

Dan,

I never attacked any of these guys personally. Go back and read all the posts.

My reason for joining this board is because my opinions differ from those offered by the establishment here.

Do you want all your members to hear a chorus of uniform opinions?

Or is dissent allowed?

Does having a contrary opinion mean that one is contributing in an "unproductive" manner?

What exactly is the the dissent? I reread the original post and I still don't get it. You wrote: "There seem to be a lot of guys on this board who get angry and skewer a guy for saying that he looks much younger than his age. You know what, you guys that get pissed off about this are just a bunch of jealous haters."

What exactly are we supposed to be jealous haters of exactly? The fact that people say they "look younger than their age"? I personally do not feel jealousy, rather I feel a bit sad for them. I am 38, but I do not think I look 28 or 18. I have a few more gray hairs than I did back then and my  hair has receded a bit over the years. But, I would like to think that I am an attractive and relatively fit 38-year-old. I am not ashamed of my age and do not need to "look younger."

You write: "I don't look much younger by accident. I worked HARD for it. I work out three times a week. Never eat junk food. Avoid sugar. Eat healthy foods. In summary, I TAKE CARE OF MYSELF."

All I can say is congratulations. Do you want a pat on the back? A medal? Again, if you are what you say, you are a fit 40-year-old. BUT, you are still 40-years-old no matter what age you think you look like.

You continue: "Does that mean that I can date women younger than most other 40 year old guys can manage? HELL YEAH!"

What exactly does "manage" mean? I presume you mean sex. But, what is your point? Are you looking for a relationship or auditioning for a porn film? I hate to burst your bubble, but any man at the age of 40 has slowed down and is no longer the 18-year-old he once was. However, does it really matter? If you are in a committed relationship with one woman you are not going to be having intimate relations every 5 minutes. I would have thought that by the age of 40 you would have realized that quality counts for a lot more than quantity.

Finally, you write: "And you know what? I am going to enjoy EVERY MINUTE OF IT. I will leave the haters to writhe in jealousy!"

Why should we be writhing? I am now happily married to a woman who likes this 38-year-old and his few extra pounds.

Your last comment: "Oh, btw, did I mention that I am 40, but I look 28?!!" Either you are a troll or you are someone who is going through a major midlife crisis.

You say that your provide "dissent" but all that comes through is a great deal of aggression and someone who clearly has a pretty big chip on his shoulder.

NOTE: I edited a typo.