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Paying taxes the first year?
« on: November 08, 2007, 07:53:07 PM »
N. has just finished an H&R Block tax course---and her status was one of the topics discussed during class.
She will not have any US income to report this year, so I assume we will fill out the 1040 as married with only 1 spouse working.
I know this is WAAAAAAY early, but she has been bugging me about this----no one in class had an answer.
Hopefully some of you experienced guys can fill us in.
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Re: Paying taxes the first year?
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2007, 07:58:05 PM »
We filed joint married 2006.
My tax status had been single for 2006, no longer.  So a good refund ;D.

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Re: Paying taxes the first year?
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2007, 08:26:35 PM »
File "Married filing jointly" just make sure she has her SS card before you do (file an extension if necessary).
This brings up an interesting point that we had to research. A K-2 child who does not have a greencard, can you claim them as a dependent?

The answer is YES in most cases, anyone want to guess why?

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Re: Paying taxes the first year?
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2007, 09:32:56 PM »
File "Married filing jointly" just make sure she has her SS card before you do (file an extension if necessary).
This brings up an interesting point that we had to research. A K-2 child who does not have a greencard, can you claim them as a dependent?

The answer is YES in most cases, anyone want to guess why?




There are several tests as to whether you can claim a child as a dependent.

In most cases, children for whom you provide support and a home qualify as dependent exemptions. Often, dependents do not fall into this exact description, so the IRS has designed five tests to determine whether a child or dependent can be considered an exemption.

These five requirements are:

  • citizenship
  • support
  • gross income
  • joint return
  • relationship

We suggest you complete this simple process for each dependent so you do not make any costly errors on your tax return.

In order for you to claim an exemption for a dependent there are five requirements that must be met by each individual:

Citizenship
To qualify for an exemption your dependent must either be:

  • a US citizen,
  • a resident of the US, Canada, or Mexico for part of the year,
  • a legally adopted foreign child who now resides in the US, or
  • an adopted child living w/you the entire year in a foreign country.

Relationship
To qualify for an exemption your dependent must either be:

  • a relative or
  • a member of your household for the entire year.

Note: Relatives do not need to live in your house to qualify as a dependent exemption. Non-relatives can be claimed as dependent exemptions only if they also live in your house.

Joint Return
To qualify for an exemption your dependent can NOT:

  • file a joint return with a spouse. Note: This means that a taxpayer is allowed to claim a married dependent as an exemption if all other four tests are met and the dependent uses the married filing separately status.

Gross Income
To qualify for an exemption your dependent can NOT:

  • have a gross income of more than $3,300. Note There are exceptions to this rule, which are discussed below.

Support
To qualify for an exemption your dependent must:

  • receive more than one-half of his/her total support from you.

You should disregard the support test in any of the following cases. If the dependent is:

  • your child, and is under age 19 on Dec 31, 2006.
  • your child, under 24 on Dec 31, 2006, and a full time student for at least five months during 2006. - IF YOUR CHILD IS A FULL-TIME STUDENT, BE SURE TO ENTER 12 MONTHS AS THE AMOUNT OF TIME THEY LIVED WITH YOU
  • a permanently and totally disabled person and receives an income for services preformed for a tax-exempt organization.

Source of this information is http://kb.taxslayer.com/article.php?id=193


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Re: Paying taxes the first year?
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2007, 03:20:10 AM »
The answer is YES in most cases, anyone want to guess why?

Basically, because no one else will be going to claim them.  All of the IRS tests basically are tests to keep taxpayers from double dipping on claiming dependents. 

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Re: Paying taxes the first year?
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2007, 08:05:39 AM »
Thanks guys
Married filing jointly was what I figured---I just wanted to make sure there were no "hidden" loopholes we could take advantage of :usdeyes:
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Re: Paying taxes the first year?
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2007, 08:35:15 PM »
Actually, what we found was that the IRS has a different definition of "Legal Permanent Resident" than DHS/USCIS does.  :cluebat:

IRS recognizes GC holders as LPRs but also adds what they call the "Substantial Presence Test" into the mix, which states that if a person has been in the US for 181-365 days of a given year, they are a LPR for tax purposes. This means that if the child has been here for half a year +1 day, they are deductible.
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Re: Paying taxes the first year?
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2007, 10:39:08 PM »
Which makes little sense, as a natural born US citizen only has to be born a minute before midnight on Dec. 31 to meet the same requirement.

 

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