Feedback from my last 2 years

[docetae]

This post is just a summary of my last two years, a kind of feedback that I hope will help others. <Standard disclaimer : This is based on my experience, I have used agencies, newspaper ads, regular dating sites.. My profile : divorced with children, 35, with a look not too bad and financially stable.>

The best I can advise to you, avoid agencies... the demand is higher than the offer in fact and you will meet mainly women who will want free lunch...or more..  exception are extremely rare...

The alternative I have done after doing the agency path without success:

- Do an introduction letter in russian with the help of one interpreter. (10$ max)
- Subscribe to bride.ru and Luckylovers.net (75$ both for one month...)
- Write to women in a city where you have a large number of profiles which meet your searches criterias..no more than 2 months before your travel. Corresponding more is just losing your time..
- Travel and Meet them

Again, avoid agencies ... you will have to pay for everything , writing, meeting women... why doing that when you can have more contacts directly ?

 You can find easily interpreter in large cities without going to agencies, just do a search in Google...most of them will help you to find a good apartment for less than the one you can get with agencies.

About red lights that should make you stop:

- The woman is asking you money
- The woman is always complaining about her country
- The woman can be close and distant very soon after... she will show her affection and change totally 30 minutes later.

After some bad experiences,I have met someone now a little more than one month ago, we will meet again in less than 45 days now. I don't want to take gamble but everything seems for the best this time. I have made mistake during the last year and today, I can not believe why I have not done the way described above first.

For those who believe that agency women are more beautiful/ educated than these on sites I mentioned above... they are just better sold (studio photo, often not recent..)...

And to conclude, something important, attraction should be immediate for both... if you think that time will change things, you are wrong...
 

[Muj]

Good luck Docetea

Some good advice, but many variations showing success as well

[Hub]

I agree totally with all that you wrote.

[timothe]

I think there is one significant downside to not using an agency that is worth mentioning.  (I didn't use one for any of my 6 trips.) 

There is the chance that the woman you meet and fall for is not committed to leaving her country.  This particular type of woman will display all of the traits of a good woman, but will need significant convincing to leave.  I had my heart broken once....very painful.

[HiTech]

doceta: What city is your lady from?

After my last trip I also have become much more pessimistic about agencies even though I met my lady threw an agency.

HiTech

[docetae]

HiTech: She is living now in Kiev but she is from Zaporozhye.
Thimothe: About leaving her country, I can tell you that I have met the same situation with agencies women... That was in my first question for her ...

[Simoni]

The best I can advise to you, avoid agencies... the demand is higher than the offer in fact and you will meet mainly women who will want free lunch...or more..  exception are extremely rare...

In general I can agree with docetae on the agency question.  Why?  Because the number of scam agencies far outnumber the good ones. 

But I also know that docetae is jaded because he initially used the biggest scam agency in the fsu.  I know, I was there with him at the same agency.  We both learned our lesson.

Docetae them moved on to other methods which he mentions above and has apparently found success.  I moved on to try a good agency and did find success.

Scammers are everywhere.  My view is you are much more likely to find a scammer with Luckylovers and free personals than via a good agency.  Good agencies get rid of any scammer that is able to penetrate their selection process.  Thus, in a general sense, girls who signed up with a good agency are already vetted. Not so with independent online sites with no screening process.

Every-time a girl is successful in finding a good man via the agency route, she tells her friends and they decide the agency is one good way of meeting good, serious men.  Success breeds success.

[timothe]

Whatever happened to the "placing a classified ad" strategy that MarkinTx used to talk about?  I thought it was a pretty good idea to get underneath the surface and find some gems?  Has anyone here now used that strategy?

[Misha]

Or there are the free Russian dating sites. There are few scammers as there are few foreigners. Even if you do not speak Russian, you could find a translator to help you set up a profile and show you how to use it. The free Russian dating sites have the profiles of hundreds of thousands of women. They also indicate the languages that the women speak. I met my wife the the help of the of the sites of the mamba network (singles.ru). 

[docetae]

Whatever happened to the "placing a classified ad" strategy that MarkinTx used to talk about?  I thought it was a pretty good idea to get underneath the surface and find some gems?  Has anyone here now used that strategy?

I have made one meeting trough this way ... the woman was interesting, beautiful but not interested finally by me and me I do not felt the same than with the woman I met 3 days before... This could work but be sure that the person who will place the ad knows what you want exactly. This could be more difficult too if you are not looking for particular things... I wanted to meet only tall women (more than 5ft9) and with a 4 years age difference max.

I would have explored local dating sites if my initial meeting during this week had not been so successful..

[SANDRO43]

I met my wife the the help of the of the sites of the mamba network (singles.ru).

Slight drawback to this site: after you join, you're also flooded with Russian spam .

[Misha]

Slight drawback to this site: after you join, you're also flooded with Russian spam .

Never had that problem. But, did create an e-mail specifically for this site, separate from my work e-mail and my home e-mail.

[docetae]

A few comments and some numbers about the woman I have met ...we are definitely not following the model of most of relations here...

- She is older than me by 5 months
- Together we will have 4 children at home
- She owns her apartment in Kiev
- She has worked part time like model until 4 years ago for some advertising for printed press
- She has diplomas (master) both in art and in finance
- After 2 months we will have exchanged between 800 and 1000 sms and 200 emails...

The last point is the more important ... why ? because I realize that communication, closeness more than everything is the key to the relation...

[Simoni]

- After 2 months we will have exchanged between 800 and 1000 sms and 200 emails...

The last point is the more important ... why ? because I realize that communication, closeness more than everything is the key to the relation...

That tells you that she has no other western man.  Not enough time to send all those text messages and attend to another guy, too!  LOL