Please convince me otherwise

[solomon]

[user=134]Photo Guy[/user] wrote:

Neutralize the mom. No I don't mean THAT. Doug

Keep in mind that I live in Montana. We just got electricity here and my 45 caliber Glock helps when I need to light the stove.

[solomon]

Even if her dental school is not good for anything here, you can get her a black and decker drill, some crazy glue and some plyers and have free dental care for life.

Those are the tools Montana dentists use right now. Come to the sticks my friend. The men are men and the sheep are nervous.

[Photo Guy]

Sheep are not good for anything long-term. Trust me.
Seriously, it sounds like she is going for the cash. Tell her she can't use her dental degree in the West, and that you can't wait two years.
Apologize for that and then still stay firm. By the way, what would your plans be for her career in Montana?   doug

[solomon]

[user=134]Photo Guy[/user] wrote:

Sheep are not good for anything long-term. Trust me.
Seriously, it sounds like she is going for the cash. Tell her she can't use her dental degree in the West, and that you can't wait two years.
Apologize for that and then still stay firm. By the way, what would your plans be for her career in Montana? doug

Not sure if you saw my previous post but she is now asking for $1400 for the upcoming school year. Salt in the wound. She can go to school in Montana for just about anything except dental and medical school (and possibly 14th century French lit). Otherwise, if she wants to stay medical, nursing, physician's assistant, dental assistant, dental hygenist, etc., etc. Even if she says "ok," I still have concerns about perpetual disappointment and this most recent request for money. Not even my ex wife in USasked me for that kind of coin before we were married. Attorney in US = millionaire.

[Photo Guy]

According to jb, this eye on your cash, your big house, your nice furniture, your impressive car, are all the stuff that dreams are made of, in the mind of your typical RW, so therefore it is to be expected.
But, if that is true, then how do you differentiate between a scammer who takes your money, and a scammer who marries you for your lifestyle and money. The key difference appears to be 'marriage'.
What are your thoughts on that?

'Perpetual disappointment'? Yes, you would have to know that she 'let it go' for the good of the marriage, and hopefully will replace it with some other goal. Only you can judge THAT situation. It may be a mistake to send her the $1400. Personally I would not want a wife who cannot be flexible. Go with your instincts.

[solomon]

[user=134]Photo Guy[/user] wrote:

According to jb, this eye on your cash, your big house, your nice furniture, your impressive car, are all the stuff that dreams are made of, in the mind of your typical RW, so therefore it is to be expected.
But, if that is true, then how do you differentiate between a scammer who takes your money, and a scammer who marries you for your lifestyle and money. The key difference appears to be 'marriage'.
What are your thoughts on that?

I am assuming you are saying that you wouldnt have a meaningful relationship with the woman that you married. Only distinction may be that you have a chance of getting laid with the one you marry. However, I do remember that the one type of food that ends a woman's sex drive is called wedding cake. If I had to choose, it would be the scammer that takes my money but I dont marry because it wouldnt be for the rest of my life.

[Bruno]

However, I do remember that the one type of food that ends a woman's sex drive is called wedding cake.

For some RW, marriage don't stop sex relation... they only wait the green card... some other wait your dead and the heritage ( she is 20 yo and you are 60 yo )... never eat forest champignon...

Stop joking and see all in black... you can never know the real reason why a woman choice you... you need to trust and think that she have good reason...

Now, about the russian letter, i think that it is typicaly a scam model... but again, how to be sure, you was already engaged and have some responsability like fiance... and we don't know all story... we can only judge from part you post...

In any case, if you don't trust these woman, don't marry her... be suspicious during a lot of year can only lead to divorce at long term... but next time, take the time to know the person before make a proposal... choice a woman for the life is not like choose a pets... it is more complex...

Your time is money but the time you use before for make a good choice is a investisment for the future, not something loose... the wrong choice can lead to more time loosing and all money from the world cannot pay back the time loosing...

 

[solomon]

I think she can be trusted based on what I have found out about her. I actually had my interpreter investigate a bunch of stuff about her to try and put my mind at ease and everything checked out. The part I am concerned about is her changing her mind based on whatever influences. I think you are probably right about the letter asking for money--I think it is based on her being my fiance and a developed relationship. Who knows.

[Bruno]

And what about your own mind influence on her... if she love you, she go listen what you say... a RW can very good understand "ni catchou"... you will be his futur husband, the futur father of her children... so, you have certainly some mind influence on her... send her your argument and see her reply...

You make some good remarks here on the forum but she need to know these argument... only publish it here will change nothing to your relation... Let's go, action, fight to save your relation... are you a lion or a pussy-cat... RW like people who fight, not someone who stop with the first problem...

[BC]

Any woman or man considering marriage certainly weighs the lifestyle aspects before accepting a proposal. It's quite normal and universal.

Few if any on either side will trade down and many non-monetary aspects are weighed.

[Turboguy]

However, I do remember that the one type of food that ends a woman's sex drive is called wedding cake.

For some RW, marriage don't stop sex relation... they only wait the green card... some other wait your dead and the heritage ( she is 20 yo and you are 60 yo )... never eat forest champignon...

[/quote]
Thank you Bruno,  I feel great since this is not that far from my catagory.  It is wonderful to know I will have sex till the day I die.  Heck, I was worried it might stop after the green card.

Solomon,  It really shows me what has happened to inflation there.   When I covered a gals tution for a year in Ukrine back in 1998 it was only $ 800.00   I will add that I got my money back in saved time and effort in letters because once she had the money I did not hear from her again for 10 months till it was close to time for another school year.

You said "Those are the tools Montana dentists use right now. Come to the sticks my friend. The men are men and the sheep are nervous.  I have been to Billings many times.   I noticed the sheep always started quivering when ever I got near there. 

[Sivrug]

Hey Turbo and Soloman

We just paid tuition and fees for Ann's university studies and the total 2,000 H which makes just under $400 for the whole year.

[solomon]

Hey Turbo and Soloman

We just paid tuition and fees for Ann's university studies and the total 2,000 H which makes just under $400 for the whole year.

I think she is trying to take me for a ride on the amount for tuition and fees. Although everything she has previously said has checked out. Surely she wouldnt lie to me just about a money issue.

[Turboguy]

Surely she wouldnt lie to me just about a money issue.

No, of course not.  What self respecting FSU woman would do that.

[facetrock]

I am trying to get this straight. Correct me if I am wrong. You went there and met with 12 ladies. You asked one to marry you, right?  If thats the case there could be many things wrong here.

  How much time did you spend with her? It couldn't have been all the time you were there since you met with11 other ladies. If this was the first time you met her do you think you were being a bit hasty? I am sure you thought  you loved her but were you sure she loved you. And if you were not why would you ask a woman to marry you when you were not sure she loved you. How clear can a mans thinking be to date 12 women on one trip and then ask one to marry him. She told she was going to quit dental school until her mother got a hold of her. What would you have told your daughter to do? Finnish school or marry a guy from America that you have only known for a week or 2. See how selfish you appear to her mother. I think her mother did the right thing. Lets say she quits school for a guy she barely knows and before the 90 days are up you have her ass back on a plane home. Now whats she going to do? No degree, she will have to try to continue her degree at a later date and I know from personal experience its not that easy. Having that degree is her security. Your forgetting something. These women give up their whole life when they come to America. What do you give up? Not much, a plane ticket and some spending money and if it doesnt work out send her back home.  But now you have an out and can claim she wasnt anygood anyway because she asked you for $1400. You might be right we only have your word for it.  What if she had never asked for the money. If you want to know why you dont succeed at this just think about how you went about this whole thing. Then take a long look in the mirror. You made about every mistake possible.

[Bruno]

Wowww... strong but right... sometime, we need to think a little more of the problem of lady...

About Solomon, i think that he have find someone or give up... he begin remove his ads... his main problem was time... own time... typical succesfull American man... all for the work, no time for a personal life...

[Bruce]

I think he is still going I assume to The Ukraine - but not for the woman trying to bilk him out of $1400.0.   Solomon, run - do not walk away from that one!

[Michelangelo]

Solomon, run - do not walk away from that one!

I agree. If your really cared for this girl, you would have met her for your planned vacation.  After that, you could have decided what to do.

Warning signs include the short time you have known her, that she asks you for too much money, and that she is too much under the control of her money.

Don't give up--just spend more time in your search, and enjoy  the journey  It can be a lot of fun   Good luck!

[solomon]

You made about every mistake possible.

Dude, it's all gray. We're not making widgets.

[Bruno]

You made about every mistake possible.

Dude, it's all gray. We're not making widgets. [/quote]
And same if you have make every mistake, where is the problem... people learn from mistake and don't make them a second time...

A lot of us was divorced man... so, we have make mistake too... same before begin hunt RW...