How to detect her "Origin" agency?

[orlando]

Hi, I want to contact a lady, she isn't a model-like girl, she is normal, a low profile girl, but I like her profile very much.

I have some doubt at time to begin a contact with her. Why?

CASE 1: She appear listed in: AnastasiaWeb, HotRussianBrides, AFA and ArmyOfBrides.

I can't believe that she sign in to all agencies in person in different cities. I think that many websites copy they profiles and info just like "Army of Brides".

On my personal opinion i think that:

1)HotRussianBrides pay to the girls to send letters, include at high times at night.
2)AnastasiaWeb, maybe all profiles are real, but they have a "close-shop", where isn't possible to know if a girl is real or not.
I found here a duplicated descriptions in different girls, please compare yourself.
http://www.anastasia-international.com/profile-Russian-woman-to-marry-Oksana-1103408.htm
http://www.anastasia-international.com/profile-Russian-girl-pic-Maria-1100305.htm
3)AFA, have fame of scam agency.
3)Army of Brides, have fame of copy all profiles.

The big questions is:

"Who copy to Who"? It's possible to know the "Origin Agency of a Girl"?

Thank's to this site I don't have problems with scammers, but, which of these agencies will be less bad to initiate a contact?


CASE 2: Now i'm testing the NatashaClub service, where the owner has been changed the rules, now its more secure and have IMBRA support And the site don't spam my Inbox with letters.

I have contact with many girls, none of her asked me for money, a good point, I have carefull wirh Lugansk and Moscow profiles, but if all letters are wrote by employees?  :0

In this particular case, what can I do to know if she is real or not? may ask for more photos, a passport or any other info? please help me with this too.


Thank's for your help and comments.

[docetae]

You see warning signs and you continue to go in the same direction despite them... when there are many women available outside marriage agencies, where you can contact them directly (bride.ru, freepersonal.ru, luckylovers.net just as example) and where you will reduce a lot your correspondence cost

Why take a dangerous road when there are so many options available ?

my 2 cennes.

[SANDRO43]

CASE 1
Difficult, this is a piece of information that mega-agencies tend to keep to themselves, for obvious reasons. I worked out a list for Angelika Net (http://www.floriani.it/sitirussi/angelika-eng.htm), if that can be of any help.

CASE 2
As far as Natasha's Club is concerned, they have a  parent company, First International Marriage Network (http://www.1st-international.com/), and I receive letters almost simultaneously from their 21 to 58 y.o.s, the average being around 35 y.o., so it appears a mixed bag. They also appear to be somewhat agency-bound (if not staff-written), i.e. my solicitations for direct communications have always resulted in no further contacts, so far.

As for "knowing if she is real or not", you could intimate as I usually do that you would prefer direct communications, and ask if they are willing to give you their contact info via a phone call ("Order calling card with rates as low as 4 cents per minute to Russia (service provided by 1st International, our parent company)), investing $25-50 for it.

Good luck .

[jb]

Sandro,

IIRC, Orlando is our member from Santiago, Chile.  I doubt he'll be calling Russia for .04 per minute.  Unless he can get a girl using Skype, or some other such service, I suspect he's in for a rather expensive telephone courtship.

[SANDRO43]

Sandro,IIRC, Orlando is our member from Santiago, Chile.  I doubt he'll be calling Russia for .04 per minute.  Unless he can get a girl using Skype, or some other such service, I suspect he's in for a rather expensive telephone courtship.

Sin embargo puede ser que el es muy rico .

[BillyB]

Hi, I want to contact a lady, she isn't a model-like girl, she is normal, a low profile girl, but I like her profile very much.

Orlando, you should not fall in love with a photo. There may be one out of 100 chance this woman will be totally into you and since you are from Chile, she may hold it against you. Most likely you will be wasting time and money with those questionable agencies. You should contact many women and maybe you'll find one that has no problem living with a man from Chile.

Although phone calls for you can be expensive, you should make calls before you visit regardless. Why would you want to visit a woman who doesn't like talking to you? Do you have calling cards in Chile that keep phone costs down? I know in America some companies sell calling cards that we can take with us to another country and call from there.

[orlando]

Call to Russia isn't a problem. I call regularly to Tashkent, Uzbekistan trough my cell phone when I'm in the street and some times I call with my IP phone (like Skype phone) for free.

I think if i send flowers (an specific package) and ask for a photo, can be a solution.

@BillyB: Thank's for your advice but I'm not fall in love with a photo, I mean if her profile is true, she is like me, no more.

@SANDRO43: I always listen your experienced advices, thank's.

@docetae: You are right, I don't have reasons to take risk, I will still using Bride.ru and these poor search engine.

Thank's at all.

[Eduard]

There are many Russian girls that would consider moving to any country as long as they fall in love with a guy. The only ones that probably wouldn't consider going to Chile are the ones who specifically sign up with agencies that market them to western men from Europe and USA.
I had a client about a year ago from Peru. I helped him contact and communicate with many women and within 2 months he had the girl that he was totally infatuated with and it was a mutual feeling! A big plus is that he didn't even have to travel to Russia to meet her, since Peru doesn't have the same travel restrictions for single Russian women. He was able to invite her to Peru. If you find the right girl, you can have her visit you in Chile as many times as you want as far as I know, you can also go to Russia to meet her family which I think is always a good idea before marrying someone.
Trust me, it would be very easy for me to find a cute Russian girl for a nice looking Latino man. They love Latin dancing too by the way!

[orlando]

I have many russian and ukraninan friends living here, all already married. When I meet with a lady I do the first step (go to his country and try to know his parents).

Many russian girls speaks easly Spanish because we have same grammar rules.

For example:

mother => мама (in Ru) => mamá (in spanish).
father  => папа (in Ru) => papá (in spanish).

An Ukranian friend said more or less as follows about Chile:

"I understand that I have everything here, traveling all over and not make you mad this knowledge. When I think that one day I can skiing in the mountains and then I the same day see the ocean and the beach, the other day you can see the desert and starting or glaciers ... I am very happy. I have traveled much in this country but I still lack both! It's exciting. The risk that come to Chile, is that you want to be here."

Russian girl + Latin guy = explosive couple

@Eduard: I'm watching your videos...

[docetae]

@docetae: You are right, I don't have reasons to take risk, I will still using Bride.ru and these poor search engine.

Thank's at all.

install their agent , there are no spywares and you can do advanced search by city.

[IAmZon]

A member named NEO is as much of an expert as any.  PM him, and he may be of assistance.

[orlando]

install their agent , there are no spywares and you can do advanced search by city.

Thank's. I know the "Bride.ru Informer" but we can't search by "keyword". I use Google to search inside bride.ru by keyword but always depend of the Bride.ru indexed pages

thank's again

@rivardco: thank's i will send a PM

[Ravens9273]

I just wanted to touch one point.

You mentioned she was on many websites. The websites you mentioned are not agencies directly but work with agencies throughout the FSU.

This could simply be the agency she is with works with all the sites you mentioned which many of them do.

However the fact you showed two ladies with word for word profiles tells me that this would be a waste of time since obviously this is an agency speaking on the ladies behalf and not the ladies themselves. This is good sign of receiving fake letters.