do svidaniya

[acrzybear]

Well folks

  It's been real, but I've come to the conclusion from reading numerous threads on this board that I don't have anything significant to contribute to this board and that I am out of my league (with the experienced members and the ladies).  I have also realized from reading these various threads that since I am not college educated, I do not make $100,000.000+ a year free and clear and my chosen profession is looked upon as corrupt and less then honorable by the average Russian citizen that I just have too many obstacles to overcome. I do not have the financial, material resources of the majority of the successful members here. I am not going to change who I am, nor justify to others why I do what I do. 

  I am really hard pressed to believe that I would be able to meet the high expectations Russian ladies have come to expect of U.S men, so I will not waste mine nor their time. Since I have never been married and I am in a different social level with the majority of the folks on this board I have almost nothing to contribute towards the wooing and winning of a Russian lady.

 Another key factor in my decision is that this used to be an enjoyable board to post and learn (of which I have considerably), but with all of the recent bickering and fighting I sometimes felt like I was still at work.
 

I have however been bitten by the Russian bug and plan on visiting it as often as I can,  so I might be popping in occasionally but not posting.  But effective tommorrow you will be rarely seeing any posts from me.

  Good luck with your search and your significant others and remember to play nice with each other.

  For those of you with children-give them a hug and remember how precious they truly are and cherish each moment with them, for not everyone will be able to do that tomorrow.

  Have a good day

[Bruce]

Bear - if anyone is the exception to the "money" rule you are.  You have a tremendous amount going for you.  Persist and you will get a great Russian woman.  Sorry to see you go...........but if you have a change of heart your opinions are always welcome.   Best of luck in any event.

[Jazzyclassy]

Bear!

Do not pay attention to those materialistic people, forget about them! Stay here and post when you see an interesting topic for yourself

this forum wont survive if it is only about the idea of finding a Russian woman , cos it is not only about Russian women , it is about relations , communication and everyday life little questions and problems.

Remember that your situation will differ from others, if they got love with the help of money that does not mean you will follow their way

I know the feeling of nothing much to contribute here, I feel the same, its getting dull and annoying , but I will wait and see how it will change here and am sure the concept will be far more free spiritual and will suit any people with any views, religion, financial position and other things

If you feel there is nothing for  you to say just wait when the appropriate topic appears, or create something of your own, invite people to participate in your discussions. It is all about communication here.

It is very sad that people say poka who have been around here for quite awhile.But am not saying do svidaniya , cos am sure sometimes you will pop up in here

[bobcat]

  I have also realized from reading these various threads that since I am not college educated, I do not make $100,000.000+ a year free and clear and my chosen profession is looked upon as corrupt and less then honorable by the average Russian citizen that I just have too many obstacles to overcome.

Don't let that stop you! I lurk from time to time and see you as about as level headed as they come. A good, honest man will win many hearts....look at me  (well, I won one significant one and doing great in marriage)

  I am really hard pressed to believe that I would be able to meet the high expectations Russian ladies have come to expect of U.S men,

Then relocate here to Australia....we need some decent cops 

Another key factor in my decision is that this used to be an enjoyable board to post and learn (of which I have considerably), but with all of the recent bickering and fighting I sometimes felt like I was still at work.

Agreed - B/S at it's best
 

I have however been bitten by the Russian bug and plan on visiting it as often as I can,  so I might be popping in occasionally but not posting.  But effective tommorrow you will be rarely seeing any posts from me.

  Good luck with your search and your significant others and remember to play nice with each other.

  For those of you with children-give them a hug and remember how precious they truly are and cherish each moment with them, for not everyone will be able to do that tomorrow.

  Have a good day

Best of luck.

[KenC]

Well folks

  It's been real, but I've come to the conclusion from reading numerous threads on this board that I don't have anything significant to contribute to this board and that I am out of my league (with the experienced members and the ladies).  I have also realized from reading these various threads that since I am not college educated, I do not make $100,000.000+ a year free and clear and my chosen profession is looked upon as corrupt and less then honorable by the average Russian citizen that I just have too many obstacles to overcome. I do not have the financial, material resources of the majority of the successful members here. I am not going to change who I am, nor justify to others why I do what I do. 

That is just crazy talk and you know it.  Based on what you posted before, you make enough money to pull this off.  Have you gotten any resistance from RW because of your job?

  I am really hard pressed to believe that I would be able to meet the high expectations Russian ladies have come to expect of U.S men, so I will not waste mine nor their time. Since I have never been married and I am in a different social level with the majority of the folks on this board I have almost nothing to contribute towards the wooing and winning of a Russian lady.

I beg to differ with you.  Your posts are always like a breath of fresh air and a voice of logic.  There is always room for guys like you here.

 

Another key factor in my decision is that this used to be an enjoyable board to post and learn (of which I have considerably), but with all of the recent bickering and fighting I sometimes felt like I was still at work.

Most of that has subsided now.
 

I have however been bitten by the Russian bug and plan on visiting it as often as I can,  so I might be popping in occasionally but not posting.  But effective tommorrow you will be rarely seeing any posts from me.

  Good luck with your search and your significant others and remember to play nice with each other.

  For those of you with children-give them a hug and remember how precious they truly are and cherish each moment with them, for not everyone will be able to do that tomorrow.

  Have a good day

I'll tell you just as I did jb, take a break, read when you want to, and post when you want to also.  Don't say "goodbye" just say "see you later."  Good luck to you always.
KenC

[I/O]

my chosen profession is looked upon as corrupt and less then honorable by the average Russian citizen

Bear: We all make choices for different reasons and I would be the last to "Rah Rah you can do it" you, however I am sensing the above might have been highlighted to you somewhere along the way. The calibre of Russian people I associate with are of the level that they well understand the varying levels in the Russian police forces AND clearly understand it ain't the same the world over. If you've been stung by someone eluding to that, then I suggest you raise the level of your target market. Your type should be aiming top shelf, not mid ships.

A beer or three on the table says you are not done with this thing by a long chalk.  Chin up trooper.

I/O

[BillyB]

Bear, who are we to depend on when we need police brutality at the forum? Now you'll just be labeled with the guys that are scared to post and not cut out for RW! I understand where you're coming from. You're not scared, just soured by the recent events and want to spend time with others who don't take things so seriously.
Take Care

[mischief]

Bear, you are such a wonderful guy... and the nicest person on board ... I am sure you will make one special Russian lady very happy because you have so much to offer...
and hey, women have always been attracted to police officers and firemen!! 
So give yourself some credit!

[SANDRO43]

Bear, this is embarassing, what are we going to do with all those leftover donuts  ?

[Admin]

Hey Everyone,

I heard from the Bear in a PM. It seems a number of things have conspired to cause him some deep reflection - and not all those are here at RWD.

Here is what I would request:

* For those of you who are religious, I would personally ask you to offer up a prayer - for Bear - and for the families he interacts with in his job.
* For those of you who doubt that what you write here at RWD has power, you are deluding yourselves. Each and every one of us makes a choice with each post we make - to be uplifting, helpful, encouraging - or not. Words have power. Choose your words carefully.

- Dan

[Phil dAmore]

Bear!!

Dude!.. Don't give up.. seriously.  I'm probably the least-financially qualified person EVER to undertake this RW thing... hell, I never made more that 40 K a year in my life.. and to do that I had to spend over 340 days a year on the road.

As for your chosen profession.... well, maybe some don't look up to it, that is true, but I think you realize there is a huge difference between cops in Russia and cops in the U.S.   All I will say is that there is no way I could ever do it.. too many temptations.  Anyone that voluntarily signs up for a gig that requires them to get shot at is okay in my book, even if it's something that I could never do myself.

Maybe you should consider looking outside Petersburg and Moscow.  Village girls have their own special charm, and aren't nearly as jaded.

I've seen many guys strike out several times.  Don't give up.  Although we have never met I'm sure you are a decent guy with a lot to offer.  Keep swinging.  If not in Russia, then maybe Ukraine.  Or Poland.  She's out there.. it's just gonna take some good police work to find her!

[Misha]

It's been real, but I've come to the conclusion from reading numerous threads on this board that I don't have anything significant to contribute to this board and that I am out of my league (with the experienced members and the ladies).  I have also realized from reading these various threads that since I am not college educated, I do not make $100,000.000+ a year free and clear and my chosen profession is looked upon as corrupt and less then honorable by the average Russian citizen that I just have too many obstacles to overcome. I do not have the financial, material resources of the majority of the successful members here. I am not going to change who I am, nor justify to others why I do what I do. 

I am really hard pressed to believe that I would be able to meet the high expectations Russian ladies have come to expect of U.S men, so I will not waste mine nor their time. Since I have never been married and I am in a different social level with the majority of the folks on this board I have almost nothing to contribute towards the wooing and winning of a Russian lady.

An important thing to keep in mind is that individuals on an internet discussion forum often try to boost there own egos and in doing so many want to prove how rich and successful they are. This is done in different ways: sometimes by stressing how much they have spent on the endeavor or by highlighting how successful they are at their careers, or by highlighting how much they spend now with their wives now including trips and new purchases.... Some want to prove how much wiser they are, some how much richer they are, and so on and so forth. Some try to build status based on the woman (or man if it is a woman) they are with: i.e. if they are with a beautiful woman with a high education and from a prestigious location, then they (the men) must be successfully, because such a woman would not want to be with a man who is not rich and successful. For these reasons, I take everything that I read here with a grain of salt. And, for these reasons I liked your posts, as it was clear that you were being honest and were not trying to build yourself up as others have a tendency to do from time to time. 

[SANDRO43]

Bear, you might also consider looking for someone in your same line of work. Not many, but here's an example, 23 y.o. Kristina from Kiev (occupation: security, military, police), who states:

Seek partner describe: It is important that you are serious, because I can not imagine to live my life with some "clown". It would be great, if you are calm, because this feature is very helpful for building good family and relations. Being educated, confident and sensual also helps much in this. Do you agree? Of course, knowing more about you would be more interesting, hope for both of us.

Wouldn't mind being arrested and closely questioned by her .

[Jazzyclassy]

An important thing to keep in mind is that individuals on an internet discussion forum often try to boost there own egos and in doing so many want to prove how rich and successful they are. This is done in different ways: sometimes by stressing how much they have spent on the endeavor or by highlighting how successful they are at their careers, or by highlighting how much they spend now with their wives now including trips and new purchases.... Some want to prove how much wiser they are, some how much richer they are, and so on and so forth. Some try to build status based on the woman (or man if it is a woman) they are with: i.e. if they are with a beautiful woman with a high education and from a prestigious location, then they (the men) must be successfully, because such a woman would not want to be with a man who is not rich and successful. For these reasons, I take everything that I read here with a grain of salt. And, for these reasons I liked your posts, as it was clear that you were being honest and were not trying to build yourself up as others have a tendency to do from time to time. 

Gabaub it is great how you posted it, I treat to posts here  the same  and also read some things here with a grain of salt just how you put it, not anymore I will take it seriously  and advise Bear to do the same!

[wxman]

Bear,

If there is one person who could succeed in this endeavor, it would be you. It is because you have a heart. Everyday you see the worst in people and the brutality of some of them. You are one who truly sees that the world is not Mr Rogers neighborhood. Still, everyday you get up, you make a difference and try to make this world a better place. A true RW, or in fact any good woman, will not fall in love with you because of your money, but because you care. In that area, you are a millionaire. 

[AnastassiaAsh]

Well folks

  It's been real, but I've come to the conclusion from reading numerous threads on this board that I don't have anything significant to contribute to this board and that I am out of my league (with the experienced members and the ladies).  I have also realized from reading these various threads that since I am not college educated, I do not make $100,000.000+ a year free and clear and my chosen profession is looked upon as corrupt and less then honorable by the average Russian citizen that I just have too many obstacles to overcome. I do not have the financial, material resources of the majority of the successful members here. I am not going to change who I am, nor justify to others why I do what I do. 

Well, I am quite surprised that out of all people you have made that decision. Allthough you are not all these things as you said, I think you have to make a list of things that you ARE. I am sure it will be five times longer. Of course you cannot and will not buy an apartment for your lady, and nobody is saying you have to. You have to be realistic.
I had the same feelings quite often reading some things on this board, but the smartest thing will be just have a rest and then return and participate.
The issue with your profession and its popularity in Russia is a bad one. I don't even know if there will ever be time in Russia where people's mentality will change about that. It is very sad.
But I am glad you are not quitting on your dream. That's good news. 

[Gator]

Bear,

As does KenC, I too think this is crazy.  I even wrote a long post in the money thread saying that you offer solid financial security for RW.  Add in your maturity, leadership quailities, love for children, sense of humor, kind heart, and dancing bear attributes .... you are a prize.

I would make a silly joke about frisking trannies, yet it is clear that your deliberation is too serious for silly comments.  By continuing to stay in touch with this endeavor, hopefully we will see you again.  When we do, we will be happy to see you.

[Christian]

Bear,

"Until meeting" implies a future encounter, although I'm on ignore by you (psssst - and you by me  ).

It'll get better before you get married.

Christian

[Jumper]

bear-
i always appreciated your posts,,and hope you continue to contribute.

in regards to your first paragraph..
I know many WM/RW families (including my own ) of normal income levels  that are quite happy.Please do not let a *thread on money*, factor so heavily into your decision.
Only you know best wether you can afford the trips,if so, there is a good chance
of finding someone special, if this is something you want to pursue.

[myrddin]

Bear,

I have only been here about two weeks, but I have to say that it saddens me to read this message. I add my voice to the chorus here that wishes you only the best.

I will miss you.

[acrzybear]

  To the members that sent me PM's thank you. I will try to respond to each PM, but due to the unexpected amount (and Dan's limit of 5 replies) it will take me a fews days to get back to you. 

  I will read all PM's, but do to some things occurring I am not in a good frame of mind to read this forum (nor any other) and I will be taking some time off.  It may be a few months or a year, I have no idea at this time.  I sent a PM to Dan
and he knows the primary reason and why I need to take some time off (it has nothing to do with this board).

  Again it has been my privilege to be a part of this forum and I thank those that have given words of encouragement.

  Remember to tell those closest to you how much you love them and when your child wants to share something, take a moment out of your busy day and appreciate their innocence and trust in you.

  Again thank you for the privilege of being part of this group of unique individuals.

  Take care

P.S
And watch your speed.


   

[Turboguy]

Bear, I hope you view of your situation improves because I don't think the problems you face are as serious as you think they are. 

There is one main thing I want to say and I hope you think hard about it when you do read this.   You need to not take advice and opinions as all knowing truths.   If the obsticales you have to overcome are too much you need to let the women you are trying to woo tell you that, not a bunch of old farts who can't really agree on much anyway.   Yes, Police officers are not looked upon too highly there.  Doctors or teachers are in the same boat and those I see in the persuit seem to snag a gal or two.   It is not a hopeless situation.  You are an honorable person in an honorable profession and you should be proud of what you do.  Your posts are always great so I can tell you have a good head on your shoulders.   My income through much of my searching was not much higher than yours is. 

You may know that I have a small manufacturing business Bear.   Back when I was starting and my sales were $ 130,000 and holding I wanted to come with my first really nice sales brochure and laid out one that talked about the equipment but also why it was beneficial to my potential customers.   One friend offered to show my piece to a professional advertising expert he knew before I sent it to the printer.   The experts advice was not to do what I wanted.  He said it was the worst thing he ever saw and read too much like an owners manual.  He said sales brocures should say nothing but just general glowing comments and no facts.   I wrestled with that one for a while.  I figured I was making a big mistake based on the experts comment but sent my version off to the printer anyway.  Sales jumped to just under a half million the first year with that brocure and to nearly a million the second and the brochure the experts said was the worst he ever saw was the key to that happening.   Experts are not always perfect bear.  Don't give up.  Take some time off and then plow in full speed.   I had to take a year off once too so have others.   Good luck in whatever you do.  One way or the other I am proud to have know you. 

[Rags II]

Bear, you are a standup guy and I assure you that you would be able to find a jewel in the FSU. Forget about money, love will find a way. These ladies are looking for a Real Man and you definitely fit the bill.

I don't know what you are going through right now but I wish you the best! Please do not say Da Sveedonya to us just Poka...