Black guy heading to Ukraine

[LiveFromUkraine]

I don't like working for somebody else either. Glad to hear about your great plans. Good luck at the interview and wishing you a great and prosperous life wherever you are. 

Same to you Anastassia.  Of course I still complain about my boss being an ass even if it is me.


Thomas

[AnastassiaAsh]

  I think you have special love for this word and everything that ends with it. 

[LiveFromUkraine]

I think you have special love for this word and everything that ends with it. 

hehe You got me there Anastassia.  Sometimes my wife asks me if I married her or her popka.   


Thomas

[TW1970]

Why didn't I fall in love with a black man... I didn't because I was looking only among white men. You are right, I am not a village girl who is narrow minded, tends to be passive, agrees with everything, serves breakfast, lunch and dinner and considers ANY man to be a suitable husband...

[mspanky]

 I have to ask this question. If a man is black AND white why is it everyone expects him to denounce his white heritage and only claim black? Why is it he should only look for a black woman?

 I guess IMBRA should now put a stop to all white men who want to marry latina or Asian women. Don't these men realize they shouldn't marry out of their race? Asian should marry Asians and Latina should marry latinos. That is how it should be according to Mrs. Ash. Noone should have different taste. Well, other then the race they are. I've seen gorgeous black women,white women, latin women and Asian women. I am not attracted to a color, but to the whole person. I would rather marry a person of another race who is intelligent,has a good sense of humor and not FAT. Then marry one of the White women I see a majority of AM walking around with. Just being white does not make it better.

 Hell. I happen to think  most of the Brazilian,Venezuelan and Colombian women are as hot as any RW I've seen. Just a nice shade of bronze mixed in with a nice booty. You know how they got that way Ana? Many through race mixing which sometimes can produce very good looking people. God does not make mistakes. We are all human!!!

 

[ambach123]

I would refrain from name calling and give you my experience that is very valid and probably the only one in this thread from personal experience.

I have olive complexion, of middle eastern descent, grew up in USA. On any given day I can be taken for a Spainish, Turkish, Greek, Latino, Italian and various assortment of other minorities. In USA, nobody would look twice at me in New York, if I were in Nebraska, it is a different story.

United States is an exceedingly racially tolerant society, if it was not so before, it is now. I can tell you from my personal experience. The younger people, below 30 are almost impartial to any color.

I like white women and I can relate to OP on this one.

With regard to looking for a wife in FSU, I read through some advice given here by Jack Bragg; in brief he describes " the rule of seven"; you must have seven prospects lined up in one city and visit that city, and you would most likely find one that likes you and who you like. I am aiming for fourteen prospects before I take the plane to Kiev; I am up to seven, but I am finacially well off so that has been helpful.

I have been to FSU, many times, personally I did not find much racism; actually I was treated very well, they were somewhat curious, but almost everyone was very courteous.

About searching for women, being different is a handicap just like being fat, being bald or being old; in some women's eyes it is a deal breaker and for some women it is something surmountable. I dare say that just about every one on this board has some sort of handicap, so why is the OP any different? If we did not have some form of handicap we would not be here.

The OP has to find the right woman who accepts this handicap, his chances are no better and no worse than anyone else with a different handicap considering his whole self.

I have obtained seven prospects in a little over three months.

As JB described somewhere, what is a prospect?

1. She responds to your emails in 24 hours or so.

2. She responds directly to your questions and is clearly interested.

3. She is happy to receive your phone call and does not ask you to " call back later ".

4. You can maintain at least a reasonable dialogue over the internet and telephone.

So OP don't get discouraged by some of the posters, they all have arm chair " opinions".  Few of them if any has a first hand experience of being a minority.

Like they say it is only the wearer knows where the shoe pinches.

Like many things in life, this endeavour would be more difficult for you than most others who are obviously white; but I am sure you are used to it.

I wish you well.

[Faux Pas]

I have to ask this question. If a man is black AND white why is it everyone expects him to denounce his white heritage and only claim black? Why is it he should only look for a black woman?

 I guess IMBRA should now put a stop to all white men who want to marry latina or Asian women. Don't these men realize they shouldn't marry out of their race? Asian should marry Asians and Latina should marry latinos. That is how it should be according to Mrs. Ash. Noone should have different taste. Well, other then the race they are. I've seen gorgeous black women,white women, latin women and Asian women. I am not attracted to a color, but to the whole person. I would rather marry a person of another race who is intelligent,has a good sense of humor and not FAT. Then marry one of the White women I see a majority of AM walking around with. Just being white does not make it better.

 Hell. I happen to think  most of the Brazilian,Venezuelan and Colombian women are as hot as any RW I've seen. Just a nice shade of bronze mixed in with a nice booty. You know how they got that way Ana? Many through race mixing which sometimes can produce very good looking people. God does not make mistakes. We are all human!!!

 

Who is everyone? Hell I haven't seen anyone expecting him to denounce his white heritage. The OP titled this thread "black guy heading to Ukraine". He ask for opinions about attitudes from FSUW toward mixed race/black men. He didn't preface it with "half white guy". His avatar which he stated was him looked like any full blooded black man. Which half of his heritage do you believe an FSU woman will note first?

What he got was response to his question. If he had asked about attitudes toward mixed race/black men from AW he would have gotten another different set of answers. But he already knew those. The AW BTW would include both white and black and a whole host of other races.

He asked for opinions and he got them. They were not racist opinions despite the accusation from several other posters. They were asked and given opinions. Thats all, nothing more just opinions. So what if they were peppered questions? Its possible the posters could offer a more formulated opinion with some insight on motivation. I have lived in a world of racism all my life and one thing that it has taught me is, that when  someone is so quick to call another a racist it more often than not means they have racial issues of their own.

[mspanky]

Who is everyone? Hell I haven't seen anyone expecting him to denounce his white heritage. The OP titled this thread "black guy heading to Ukraine". He ask for opinions about attitudes from FSUW toward mixed race/black men. He didn't preface it with "half white guy". His avatar which he stated was him looked like any full blooded black man. Which half of his heritage do you believe an FSU woman will note first?

What he got was response to his question. If he had asked about attitudes toward mixed race/black men from AW he would have gotten another different set of answers. But he already knew those. The AW BTW would include both white and black and a whole host of other races.

He asked for opinions and he got them. They were not racist opinions despite the accusation from several other posters. They were asked and given opinions. Thats all, nothing more just opinions. So what if they were peppered questions? Its possible the posters could offer a more formulated opinion with some insight on motivation. I have lived in a world of racism all my life and one thing that it has taught me is, that when  someone is so quick to call another a racist it more often than not means they have racial issues of their own.

 Which avitar is that? Didn't see one with a black man.

[mdforme]

Here is my 2 cents for what it is worth.

I returned from Moscow, Russia about three weeks ago.

I am a very Blackman-I mean as dark as they come (actually a full-blooded African now a United States citizen) married to my Russian wife for almost 3 years now, our wonderful daugther is 10 months old-a first for both of us.

When I embarked on this mission almost 4 years ago, there was very little support if any and I remember when I asked for advice from AFA at that time they told me to head South (Latin America)  instead of the FSU-because they have never seen black people but I recall quite a few Africans who went to medical school in Russia, 99% of them married and brought home their Russian wives some with children. Luckily, I was communicating with my sweetheart at the time and I told her about my race, sent pictures to her and she was fine and still fine with it.

My parents in-law and their family have treated me with extreme kindness, respect and love. I cannot imagine any other way they could show me more love. I am showed with presents whenever possible despite that I earn more than they do-they know it too-they are not poor, they have numerous apartments in Moscow and elsewhere.

My last trip compared to the last one is "amazingly different" this time there seem to be more blacks in FSU than I saw 4 years ago-I mean I saw them on TV, not just as guests but hosting shows in Russian language! obviously they were born and raised there. One was on a reality show and I saw quite a few black musicians. One guy, an actor of some sort was dancing his way away at the airport and obviously some of the young musical movements seem to have some black influence.

Anything is possible, it depends on the individual, circumstances and most importantly you. Finding a wife is about the same odds in a way-perhaps in my mind-because I have always wanted a white woman (my eldest sister told me I articulated these words in my childhood-I cannot dispute this truth there are other pointers which may be too lengthy to go into at this time) and I am not physically attracted to black women-I cannot explain why. Some people did not believe me when I said this and quite a few people were upset at me for telling them just. So take heart and continue to seek what you need. It's like a gay person explaining their attraction.

Barbara Walters just revealed her affair with Senator Brown, that occurred 31 years old ago, it's like a bombshell to many Americans---who would have thought!  However remember the anti-miscegenation laws that was struck down in Loving Vs the state of Virginia that went all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States in 1967. People went to jail for marrying outside their race in the past in this county. South Africa harassed Zimbabwe and prevent their prince from bring home his white British wife and unfortunately many people do not know of the price paid by others for the right of marrying outside their race. This debate is not new, it just takes different forms in different places.

I have lived in a few countries, but I intend to stay in the United States for the rest of my days. Dubai looks attractive-check it out.

There will always be naysayers in every adventure. Risks? yeah in everything you will ever do-we are at risk for dying because we are alive. If you were dead you will not be at risk of dying. No one is suggesting we stop driving despite 40 thousand deaths a year from Automobile in the United States alone. So have fun in your search.

I wish you the very best of Luck.

[LiveFromUkraine]

I have lived in a world of racism all my life and one thing that it has taught me is, that when  someone is so quick to call another a racist it more often than not means they have racial issues of their own.

Are you trying to tell me you live in "White Christian America who votes for McCain" as well?   

You found me out.  I am a sneaky racist who likes to call others racist.   



Thomas

[chivo]

Ignore button is always at your disposal, if you got really tired of me and my views. It's interesting to read how people delight in twisting my meaning just with a slightly different tone in their voice 

Darling, I didn't twist anything. Also, since its the virtual world, you have no idea what tone I use. Maybe God told you though  . You haven't quite made it to my ignore list as I think you do provide some use to men however one sided it might be. However, I for one, need this advice like another hole in my head. But, maybe together we can provide a better balance of things. 

Of course i always give my personal point of view, it can be both general and for the individual. If TW1970 wrote me directly and told me much more information about himself and if i saw his pictures, I would certainly give him my opinion on some exact things and his exact situation. I am sure it would be slightly different. Here were are discussing a black man finding a white RW.

I think as being a minority who has dated RW by the truck loads, and as one who has had numerous opportunities to marry said women, I certainly would be able to refute much of your "exact" advice. Hate to use this pun, but the shoe fits too well here my love, and while there's certainly racism here, much of what I have experienced with it is not so black & white, especially from the women if you get my drift.
 
  You are right, you are too short for me. And Irish/Mexican mixture is too highly explosive for me. 

Дорогауа, дай мие 15 минут и твое мнение измеиться 

Awesome, why don't you start advising men on this board regularly, you are on the 'turf', aren't you, you must know so much more than a native RW!

My credentials with the opposite sex here is vast, easily on par with you. Yes, you are a RW, but darling, I'm a man who dates many, and has talked/talks consistently with 100's upon 100's of them on a daily basis about a myriad of things which would include all facets of the dating game. With all due respect, I think I have much to offer when I choose to offer it. I also understand that it can and most certainly does get a little more complex with the individual. Oh, did I mention I'm a minority, ahem, like the OP  .

Anyone who is worthy of a RW will find 10 scammers very quick regardless of his background. 

While this is certainly possible, I've yet to come across any, so my point is let's give the guy some credit first, and then see what happens. I think he has a fair amount of information here already on scammers, and any amount of advice anyone gives will only go so far since we won't be there holding his hand.

Chivo, he is going to spoil your pool over there! 

Not worried at all about that, I could use the help. My pool is quite deep, I mean "you" would be somewhere around 15-20 on my list.

Chivo, everybody goes over there to do sightseeing, have lots of fun and entertainment with the most beautiful women in the world and flush their money, the more the better, you haven't heard about that?

Darling, people travel the world doing this. It surely isn't restricted to Russia.

OH! At least you got this one right. You gave me some hope there. But here is another little notch for you to ponder - In life we should go for what God wants us to have or to be, if we do that we will totally deserve that, because if we follow God, He will give us  the absolute best!
I am sure you would be tired of this idea though, but I couldn't help still stirring your mind a little bit more. 

While I consider myself much more spiritual than religious, God says, "help thyself first, and I will help you". In my book, it kind of flies in the face of what you believe. I am though, always a little leery of people who use God to make their points. Good luck my love.

chivo

This is Trajan Langdon. I use him only as an example of someone Mrs. Ash wouldn't date, but many others (RW) would, believe me. He plays for CSKA here is Moscow. He is of mixed bloods and is a hero among many here.

Do you think he can get a RW  ?

Sure he makes good money, but the point is even if he was just a regular guy he could easily pull a woman from here as I'm sure many would say he's quite attractive.

Oh he's also 6'4" Nastya  .

http://www.eurobasket.com/player.asp?Cntry=RUS&PlayerID=26365

[AnastassiaAsh]

Chivo, this guy is too young for me too.  Also if he lives in Moscow then it is easier for RW to date him, right?

You haven't quite made it to my ignore list as I think you do provide some use to men

You gave me some hope.  :angel: 

You are right, you are too short for me. And Irish/Mexican mixture is too highly explosive for me.   

Дорогауа, дай мие 15 минут и твое мнение измеиться 

But dear, you said that I am 20th on your list and you have much more beautiful muscovites to chase than me, and they are all gorgeous blonds too.... Why would you want to throw your precious 15 min on me? 

I would say the post of mdforme was interesting, he is the one who we should ask questions too, he is a black man and he did it, he married a RW.

[Faux Pas]

Are you trying to tell me you live in "White Christian America who votes for McCain" as well?   

You found me out.  I am a sneaky racist who likes to call others racist.   



Thomas

You give yourself too much credit. The diatribe you spew isn't very sneaky at all.

[LiveFromUkraine]

You give yourself too much credit. The diatribe you spew isn't very sneaky at all.

I have to keep it simple for you otherwise it may go over your head. 

[Makkin]

lol,,

  It was simple but you may need to make it more simpler for him Live..lol

Makkin

[DKMM]

and you have much more beautiful muscovites to chase than me, and they are all gorgeous blonds too....

Why do Russian women think that men like blondes more?  Just another urban myth that easily passes for truth there?  I hear it a lot.  When I told the ladies at my agency that I didn't want to meet a girl because she was blonde they just about thought I was crazy.

[chivo]

Why do Russian women think that men like blondes more?  Just another urban myth that easily passes for truth there?  I hear it a lot.  When I told the ladies at my agency that I didn't want to meet a girl because she was blonde they just about thought I was crazy.

In this particular case , if you read the whole thread, you would have seen that I mentioned that it was my preference. It has nothing to do with Mrs. Ash's thinking even though it might be the case.

I do think it's a prevailing thought be it Russia or America, let's say (don't tell me you haven't heard this in America  ). You know blonds have more fun. Sterotypes exist for a reason.

I also think there's a school of thought that goes something like, "you have fun with blonds, but you marry brunettes". Good luck.

chivo

[SANDRO43]

I also think there's a school of thought that goes something like, "you have fun with blonds, but you marry brunettes".

Billionaires seem to belong to that school :

62% of billionaires have married (or are in long-term relationships with) brunettes, while only 22% chose more fair-haired companions. Women with black hair reeled in a measly 16% of the world's wealthiest bachelors, while redheads barely made the list.

http://www.styledash.com/2008/04/09/billionaires-marry-brunettes-more-than-blonds/

[AnastassiaAsh]

Why do Russian women think that men like blondes more?  Just another urban myth that easily passes for truth there?  I hear it a lot.  When I told the ladies at my agency that I didn't want to meet a girl because she was blonde they just about thought I was crazy.

I said those words with lots of sarcasm, because that's what Chivo said and it is his preference. I do not think so, most of the blonds are not natural any way. Yes, you marry brunettes... 

[Turboguy]

Grey haired women don't seem to fair very well in that survey either.  Humm, either they are making thier millions while they are young or there is another angle for the age gap debates.

[chivo]

I said those words with lots of sarcasm, because that's what Chivo said and it is his preference.

You know I love a sassy woman now don't you  . You just moved up on my list  .

chivo

[AnastassiaAsh]

 

[OlgaH]

TW1970,

You will be not the first or last black guy married a Russian speaking woman. 

This article (in Russian) "Russian women and Sharia (the experience of the Afro-Russian mixed marriages)" is written by a doctor of Historical sciences of the Institute for African Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences Natalia Krylova, published in 2002. According the doctor's researches about ten thousand Russian speaking ladies live with their husbands and children in the countries on the Africa continent, and more than one thousand Russian speaking ladies married to the African citizens live in Russia, waiting when their husbands complete their studies or work, and then ladies are ready to live Russia for the historical homeland of their soulmates.     

[ScottinCrimea]

Olga, On a percentage basis, the numbers you cite are extremely small and not cause for encouragement regarding interracial matches.

[OlgaH]

In any case this numbers confirm a chance (even if is a little chance)