Ukrainian program warning about marriage scammers

[itstime]

My girlfriend saw a TV program last night about some of the horrors of the international marriage game. It was about Russian girls who write letters to men to scam them out of money, about men who come to the FSU for sex and then leave the girls empty handed, etc. She said they interviewed two American men, one white and one black, who had been hurt by their experience and who had sworn off looking for a Russian wife.

Seems to me that press coverage, both in the FSU and in English-speaking countries, is increasing.

 

[Maxx]

It is interesting to me that "marriage scammers" do not include women who marry only for a greencard. Perhaps the Russian press doesn't want to admit or publicize that some Russians want to emigrate out of Russia and will do anything to do so including marry much older men. Perhaps GCG don't get their fair share of press here as the husbands of MOB's are the Press' prefered target.

Maxxe

  

[antiscam_advise]

Maxxe,

Great point !

Unfortunately this is a grey area: there is little we can do to fight this incencirity...
Many US man are in fact ready to deal with it... and would settle for few years of fun... This is another disturbing fact.

I know few man myself who knew:
- That it's not gonna last
- That his wife is cheating on him
- That he was gonna loose money
...
Still as they say in Russia:
"Love is not fair, you can fall in love with the monster" ...

We are affiliated with flower/gift delivery business www.russianflora.com and often find that when we deliver the basket of goodies to a woman, the door is opened by her russian lover or even a husband. Considering the privacy of customers we can not do much here...

Ironically this works both ways: sometimes we get flower orders from Western men and in a few weeks... man's not-so-happy wife calls our office number and asking questions where did the flowers go and who sent them...
We always keep this confidential and the statement shows GOOD CHOICE FLOWERS, so it's not always clear where flowers went.

Some people are not very wise and using joint accounts...   Even worse: one man did not come clean: we got chargeback for delivered order as he never admitted a Russian connection of his heart ...

Well... 'scam' is a relative term.

Damien

[Daknack]

Is there any way to get ahold of some of these programs that air overseas?  Maxx and I have a news thing here that aired locally in my area.

[PeeWee]

My girlfriend saw a TV program last night about some of the horrors of the international marriage game. It was about Russian girls who write letters to men to scam them out of money, about men who come to the FSU for sex and then leave the girls empty handed, etc. She said they interviewed two American men, one white and one black, who had been hurt by their experience and who had sworn off looking for a Russian wife.

Seems to me that press coverage, both in the FSU and in English-speaking countries, is increasing.

 

As in media coverage of women who are abducted. The media will cover anything that is of interest to someone. How many months did we hear about Scott and lacy Peterson or Natalie Holloway? Forever. Just because there is media coverage about the horrors of scamming does not mean that it is epidemic.

Peewee

[Turboguy]

When the media wants to do a story, the want to tell the story they want to tell.  They will totally ignore the truth and focus on what reenforces the story they want to tell. 

A dozen years ago my office was on the main street of a little burg 30 miles from Pittsburgh. 
We had a gentleman's club open up directly accross the street.  The Pittsburgh Channel 2 news team was wandering our steet interviewing people.  They asked our opinion.  We said we had no problem with it so they had no interest in interviewing us.   The little Italian tailor next to us was on tv talking in his broken english and waving his arms about how upset he was.  I talked to him later and he really didn't mind the place.  He just wanted to be on TV.  Actually it was a big impovement.  The place had been a teen dance place before and it was a real nightmare.

The job of the media is to sell papers or attract viewers.  If they can find a story that will do that such as Lacy they jump all over it.  How many women were murdered between the time Lacy was and the trial and only made the local news.  Some of the things that you see are really stupid.  I just made a comment in my office the other day that I will repeat.  Last week our star starting quarterback was in a motorcycle accident and is now out of the hospital but is probably lucky to be alive.  I made the comment that in Pittsburgh the media coverage was exactly the same for Ben's accident as it had been nearly 5 years ago for 9/11.  Round the clock, non stop, with really nothing to report.   I think freedom of the press is something that keeps America what it is but I think it leaves a lot to be desired as well. 

[PeeWee]

When the media wants to do a story, the want to tell the story they want to tell.  They will totally ignore the truth and focus on what reenforces the story they want to tell. 

A dozen years ago my office was on the main street of a little burg 30 miles from Pittsburgh. 
We had a gentleman's club open up directly accross the street.  The Pittsburgh Channel 2 news team was wandering our steet interviewing people.  They asked our opinion.  We said we had no problem with it so they had no interest in interviewing us.   The little Italian tailor next to us was on tv talking in his broken english and waving his arms about how upset he was.  I talked to him later and he really didn't mind the place.  He just wanted to be on TV.  Actually it was a big impovement.  The place had been a teen dance place before and it was a real nightmare.

The job of the media is to sell papers or attract viewers.  If they can find a story that will do that such as Lacy they jump all over it.  How many women were murdered between the time Lacy was and the trial and only made the local news.  Some of the things that you see are really stupid.  I just made a comment in my office the other day that I will repeat.  Last week our star starting quarterback was in a motorcycle accident and is now out of the hospital but is probably lucky to be alive.  I made the comment that in Pittsburgh the media coverage was exactly the same for Ben's accident as it had been nearly 5 years ago for 9/11.  Round the clock, non stop, with really nothing to report.   I think freedom of the press is something that keeps America what it is but I think it leaves a lot to be desired as well. 

Yes, and to add to that. If Natalie Hollaway was kidnapped, and many thing she was, as then sold into the human traffing underworld, how many other woman in the meantime, say 6 months time, were kidnapped and not one word was said about it. 400,000 would be the 6 month average. Yet we get 2 to 3 hours a day 5 days a week coverage of pretty, yet stupid,    Natalie Hollaway. And so it is with any media coverage of anything. This one on the scammers and mail order brides and smoke and mirrors is more of the same. I pay little attention to it and it is not worth my time to watch it.

Peewee

[LatinSwede]

I have no sympathy for Natalie Holloway.  When I'm overseas again, and I see one of "America's Sweethearts" in distress, I'm turning a blind eye and a deaf ear.  The closest thing she's getting to a helping hand from me is my middle finger.  She's typical of many American girls that want to go to others people country and play decadent party animal.  Then she wants to come home and play good girl again.  A good example of this is Spring Break in Cancun Mexico.

[Daknack]

I have no sympathy for Natalie Holloway.  When I'm overseas again, and I see one of "America's Sweethearts" in distress, I'm turning a blind eye and a deaf ear.  The closest thing she's getting to a helping hand from me is my middle finger.  She's typical of many American girls that want to go to others people country and play decadent party animal.  Then she wants to come home and play good girl again.  A good example of this is Spring Break in Cancun Mexico.

Damn.  And people think I'm a hardass

[Shadow]

In the case of Natalee Holloway everyone is blaming the island inhabitants and portaying her as a saint. But where were her classmates and friends who let her go out on her own and did not worry until they got to the airport the next morning. Was there nobody who was supposed to lead the group and prevent girls from wandering out alone ?
whoever is responsible for her disappearance should be punished severely, but people should understand that she was not kidnapped fron her hotel room. She went out on her own to the beach at night with a couple of guys, that is taking a risk and knowing it.

But what bothers me most is that after one year the media still give attention to this case. She was not the last teenage girl disappearing in the US, and not the only unsovled case.

[Daknack]

Does anyone know where I might be able to get my hands on one of these shows?

[Oiler]

Maxxe,

Great point !

Unfortunately this is a grey area: there is little we can do to fight this incencirity...
Many US man are in fact ready to deal with it... and would settle for few years of fun... This is another disturbing fact.

I know few man myself who knew:
- That it's not gonna last
- That his wife is cheating on him
- That he was gonna loose money
...
Still as they say in Russia:
"Love is not fair, you can fall in love with the monster" ...

We are affiliated with flower/gift delivery business www.russianflora.com and often find that when we deliver the basket of goodies to a woman, the door is opened by her russian lover or even a husband. Considering the privacy of customers we can not do much here...

Ironically this works both ways: sometimes we get flower orders from Western men and in a few weeks... man's not-so-happy wife calls our office number and asking questions where did the flowers go and who sent them...
We always keep this confidential and the statement shows GOOD CHOICE FLOWERS, so it's not always clear where flowers went.

Some people are not very wise and using joint accounts...   Even worse: one man did not come clean: we got chargeback for delivered order as he never admitted a Russian connection of his heart ...

Well... 'scam' is a relative term.

Damien

I was looking for a flower deliver service not associated with any marriage agency. Actually I don't want a marriage agency to deliver flowers to a woman who is not part of their agency as they might want to be sneaky and recruit her. Is your service unrelated to the marriage business?

[prince_alfie]

Maybe Natalee Holloway wanted to run away from her problems? Perhaps she is on some random tropical island basking in the limelight of the natives? 

[PeeWee]

Maybe Natalee Holloway wanted to run away from her problems? Perhaps she is on some random tropical island basking in the limelight of the natives? 

Do you think that is what a few of these FSU ladies had in mind when they first posted their profiles with an agency?

Peevee

[antiscam_advise]

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[beattledog]

Yes, Natalie Holloway partied.  She  did not even consider the consequences of her actions, like so many young woman.    She wanted to have a good time, and come back home, like nothing every happened.   I fell for her parents.   

Beattledog