What women should include in their profiles

[turniptruck]

I'm curious what peoples thoughts are on women's profiles.  In particular how detailed should a woman be in composing her self description and description of her ideal match? 

How many things that you don't match would you consider to be a deal breaker and consider other candidates?  Do you consider if a woman contacts you first to be a negative?  And what exactly is an extreme sport? 

[alantodd]

Most important thing is the pictures.  Pictures need to not show much skin or you will attract pen pals and sex tourists.  But your pictures do need to show an attractive woman or you will never get decent men to write to you.

The words very financially secure male wanted turns off a lot of guys.  Need to not come across as a gold digger.  Even though majority of women want money just cannot say it.

I would not write to much in profile.  Were in an age where pen pals is not popular.  No reason why a man can not get on a plane to fly over.  Decent men will phone call after two letters and than start making arrangements to fly over if their is chemistry.    Flights to Russia are under $1,000 usd and no reason a man can not take 2 days off work and fly over on a weekend.  If a man cannot do this, a Russian woman should drop them unless there desperate.

A Europe man has no excuse as flights are around 4 hours. 

[SANDRO43]

And what exactly is an extreme sport?

Extreme sport (also called action sport and adventure sport) is a media term for certain activities perceived as having a high level of inherent danger. These actives often involve speed, height, high level of physical exertion, high specialized gear or spectacular stunts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_sports

[docetae]

I'm curious what peoples thoughts are on women's profiles.  In particular how detailed should a woman be in composing her self description and description of her ideal match? 

How many things that you don't match would you consider to be a deal breaker and consider other candidates?  Do you consider if a woman contacts you first to be a negative?  And what exactly is an extreme sport? 

My rule was for picture ...no skin. extreme sport means that she will bring to shop with her...

[Gator]

I'm curious what peoples thoughts are on women's profiles.  In particular how detailed should a woman be in composing her self description and description of her ideal match? 

How many things that you don't match would you consider to be a deal breaker and consider other candidates?  Do you consider if a woman contacts you first to be a negative?  And what exactly is an extreme sport? 

Who knows what goes through a man's mind when deciding to whom to send a wink or email?  We are all different as as the women.

The fact that we are different means each of us approach this differently after first looking at her photo.

I first looked at the photo.  If attractive and classy, I went for the substance.  A smile was also important.  I had already screened all women according to her age, her height and weight, and her age limits for a man  (which eliminated 90% of the women  ) so I skipped the physical part and even the extra photos, referring to them only if I was about to write her.  

As did Alantodd, I hit delete if she showed too much flesh - I think a woman is more sexy if she is wearing loose fitting but well tailored, high quality clothing, especially if she whispers to me midway through the evening that she is not wearing panties.  

Passing the photo test, I went for substance.  First item under substance was education.  This  was important to me.  If she did not have a university degree, I hit delete.

Passing that criterion I read her description of her personality.  Something had to make me think intelligent, SOH, adventurous, energetic, honesty, sophisticated, sporty and travel.  She did not have to hit on all 8 cylinders, but there had to be a preponderance of those qualities that interest me.  She had to write something, but after a certain point more is less.  The words sensual and sexual did not bother me.

Then I looked at what she wanted in a man.  To be honest, I did not give this much attention other than if I wrote her, I tried to make my letter responsive to her desires.  The words financial security did not bother me because at least she is being honest and direct, provided that was not the only requirement.  In fact, I liked women who seemed fastidious in her criteria but short of being demanding and arrogant.

Something had to indicate that she spoke at least fair English (I broke that rule a couple of times and regretted it).

That's all doc!

Oh, the issue of contacting you first goes against the nature of RW, yet why not!  I can only dream that I stood out.  If she writes a sob story in her third letter, then you know why she wrote you first.  Delete!

Extreme sport?  You must ask her!  I met a rock climber once. Hard as nails, even though it had been a couple of years since she stopped the sport after a near severe fall.

[BillyB]

I'm curious what peoples thoughts are on women's profiles.  In particular how detailed should a woman be in composing her self description and description of her ideal match? 

How many things that you don't match would you consider to be a deal breaker and consider other candidates?  Do you consider if a woman contacts you first to be a negative?  And what exactly is an extreme sport? 

Don't put too much stock into what's written in profiles. Most women have nothing but good things to say about themselves, elegant, smart, nice, etc.....especially when the agency is coaching them. If you look at dating sites such as bride.ru, nobody coaches the ladies there and they can show how smart or dumb they truly are. I've seen a few women say some stupid things on bride.ru, stuff you wouldn't see written at an agency profile.

I just pick ladies based on their photo. After the attraction part is taken care of, I can focus on their intelligence, personality, character, views on various subjects, and level of interest they have in me through letters and phone calls.

[2tallbill]

Things I look at initially (besides her photos).

1. Is she in my age range?
2. Can she speak some English
3. Is she Christian? I am not going to marry an atheist, or a non Christian.
4. Does she smoke?
5. Does she put anything in her profile that excludes me? common examples:
No kids, Europeans only, Must like to have 99 cats etc.

Bill

[KenC]

Turniptruck,
I have to agree with Billy here.  I just wouldn't put much stock into the descriptions or what they are looking for in a man as most just use standard agency boilerplate.  You just really do not know much of anything about them until you start communicating one on one.  Personally, I would exclude any woman that did not have at least some English abilities, so I would pay attention to that notation on the profile.  But even there it is hit and miss as to the accuracy.

So I guess I would assume that the lady has been coached through the profile process and there is not much weight to be put into the words.  And that also goes for age requirements too.  A note on the "smoking" tag line on profiles.  If a gal lists herself as a "non smoker" it could mean that she just doesn't chain smoke!  Drinking is the same too.  Many RW do not consider drinking wine or martini as "drinking" either.  So keep that in mind too.
KenC

[catzenmouse]

Flights to Russia are under $1,000 usd

You'll have to let me in on your secret for that one. I'd fall all over myself to buy a ticket for under a grand from Chicago to Omsk!

[alantodd]

Fly Lot Air out of Chicago to Poland than to Russia.  Do not price the stuff online - call the airline directly.

[catzenmouse]

Fly Lot Air out of Chicago to Poland than to Russia.  Do not price the stuff online - call the airline directly.

$1699.28 from Chicago to Moscow. Nothing further from there as they don't do domestic inside of Russia. Might want to check you facts before you tell us that flights from the US to Russia are under a grand.

[BillyB]

As did Alantodd, I hit delete if she showed too much flesh

For some men, this woman is showing too much flesh.

http://www.muslima.com/member_profile.cfm?ID=676141&searchposition=13&searchtotal=1000

For other men, they want to see more flesh than this woman is exposing.

http://mydearwoman.com/d.cgi?5857T6293294467.171.1.701207504227

Different strokes for different folks.

[alantodd]

Hi Catz,

You live near me.  I am in Milwaukee at 541 East Erie St, on Lake Michigan in the third ward of Milwaukee.  Stop by and I will show you.  I decided to retire at 37 years old so I am open all day next 2 weeks.  Let me know when you want to come by.

But you could not have called Lot travel agents in Warsaw as they were not open between my last post and yours. 

[SANDRO43]

... and, if you live in a seismic area, verify that she can absorb the shocks .

[catzenmouse]

But you could not have called Lot travel agents in Warsaw as they were not open between my last post and yours.

They are open 24 hours a day.

[Misha]

You'll have to let me in on your secret for that one. I'd fall all over myself to buy a ticket for under a grand from Chicago to Omsk!

I am not too sure about the under a grand from Chicago to Omsk, but Aeroflot does have some nice seat sales from time to time, especially in the spring. You can often fly return from New York to Moscow for around $700.

[catzenmouse]

I am not too sure about the under a grand from Chicago to Omsk, but Aeroflot does have some nice seat sales from time to time, especially in the spring. You can often fly return from New York to Moscow for around $700.

Therein lies the issue I have with saying "flights from the US to Russia are under a grand". Flights from NY to Moscow or Kiev - sure I believe that no problem. But Russia is one heck of a lot more than the far western part of the country. Add to that part that not everyone here lives on the east coast and that compounds the cost again.

Not to mention trying to find a flight that doesn't have 3 or 4 connection on it and planning around your child's school year which makes that grand quote becomes rather much of a joke.

Might as well add a bunch of really tiny text below a statement like that stating all the disclaimer information.

Sorry, just tired of folks making blanket statements about "this is the way it is" when they really don't know.

[alantodd]

They are not open 24 hours..  There on the second floor of the Warsaw international terminal.  Very comfortable waiting area outside of their office. Your probably dealing with something different than what I am trying to show you.  There is also about 10 other airline / travel companies there as well.  They get very cheap flights - nothing you will find on internet. 

Anyways, this is boring to me.  Keep paying your high prices.  I have been to Kiev and Moscow more than 20 times in total and never paid more than $1,000 usd and I usually book about 25 days in advance.  Airfare in January, February, and March to Kiev from Milwaukee this year was under $500 usd after tax.  Used northwest / KLM.  Went there 4 times at those prices.  I am paying $750 usd for my trips in May and June this year.  I miss the $410 usd with tax flights from Milwaukee.  Moscow trips were always around $600 usd from Milwaukee or Chicago to Moscow.  Try Milwaukee to Toronto to Moscow very good deals sometimes. 

I used to be executive in fortune 100 companies and travel expense was something we could cut cost very easily.  Just have to know how it works.  Many times you can check the same trip in a 2 hour period and each time you check you get a different rate.  There are ways you can program your computer to run queries automatically and lock onto a good rate.

I have seen may of your posts on the internet and your very stubborn.  Have a good day.  Your never going to agree so not that important to me. Airline companies must love you. 

[catzenmouse]

You're right. Always have been and always will be. You're not trying to show me anything except how special you are. Another fine example of people who are quite a bit too full of themselves.

[2tallbill]

Warning off topic..........Warning off topic...........Warning off topic

$1699.28 from Chicago to Moscow. Nothing further from there as they don't do domestic inside of Russia. Might want to check you facts before you tell us that flights from the US to Russia are under a grand.

Ken, I went on www.Kayak.com
A nonstop flight $1,450.00
   
Chicago to Moscow  Thu 22 May 2008 – Tue 3 Jun 2008
   $1450select      Delta   
ORD    11:55a
SVO    12:15p
   
SVO    10:10a
ORD    6:46p
   
(13h 15m)1
(15h 31m)1

And I found this $1,286.00 flight on priceline using the alternate airports tab.
   
 from
$1286
Round-Trip
Per Person
CHOOSE
DEPARTURE
   
British Airways
Flight 296
Flight 872
   
bonus  No Booking Fee on this flight

Chicago, IL (Chicago - O'Hare Intl
Chicago, IL

    * This airport is 15 miles WNW of Chicago.
    * There are taxi ranks outside each terminal's Arrivals area and a central bus pick-up point on the ground floor. The Chicago Transit Authority also runs a 24-hour service - the Blue Line.
    * Chicago O'Hare has four terminals. There are parking facilities close to all terminals at the airport. Additionally there are long term parking lots which can be reached by the ATS transfer train.
    * Priceline recommended hotels near this airport are the Doubletree Hotel Chicago O'Hare Airport Rosemont and the Hilton Chicago O'Hare Airport

ORD) → Moscow, Russia ( DME)
1 Stop Connects in London, United Kingdom (LHR)

Departing ···Thursday, May 22, 2008 at 5:30pm
Arriving ···Friday, May 23, 2008 at 3:50pm
Trip Duration ···13h 20m (Overnight Flight)



Udachi!!!  Good luck!!!

Bill

[FredC]

I'll also add this, regardless of the price to fly to anywhere over there for a weekend, you're going to spend much more time in the air than on the ground and not really be able to put your best foot forward.

[catzenmouse]

Thanks Bill. Still nothing under a grand though huh? Guess we just don't have the super secret decoder ring to get those mysterious hidden discounts. 

[HazyKnight]

http://mydearwoman.com/d....294467.171.1.701207504227

Is this real, or just a scam site?

Yep, the noob is back and is contributing 

[BillyB]

Is this real, or just a scam site?

It's an affiliate of A Pretty Woman and they do not have a bad reputation. Of course every agency has insincere women in it you need to watch out for but why do you think the lady in the link I posted is insincere? Because all she's wearing is a thong?

[HazyKnight]

So let me get this straight...

Us men, who love to see women naked or in lingerie, and then when they dress that way, are then scorned for doing so?

Are we that shallow? Do we really lack that much confidence to take a woman like that and hold her without her running astray to other playboy lovers?