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Offline BravehartQ

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Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« on: April 25, 2008, 09:42:16 AM »
I would like to report a very bad scammer from Kherson, Ukraine. Her name is Anna (Hanna) Davydova.
Personal data deleted by Mod3. Please contact original posted if you have questions about her.

I met this girl through Khersongirls in Kherson Ukraine. The agency is honest but this woman is not. We met a few times and I stupidly proposed to her. Over the course of the K-1 visa process which took 9 months, I sent her thousands of dollars at her request. She arrived in America and within 2 weeks had hooked up with a guy she met at the gym. She was spending time with him while I was at work and was even planning a romantic getaway to Boston before I found out. I put her on the first plane back to Ukraine.
Below is an example of her money requests:
Letter from Lady #: 1939
Date: 28 Jun,2007

Hello dear Mark ,
It is me again. I am in Kherson now , because I had to cancel my trip to Kiev as I had some reasons for this.
I hope that you are well. Mark, in this letter I want to ask you for a big favour. I have some problems in my family and I need help. My brother got divorced with his wife ,consequently they started to share their property. But my brother still has to pay a credit for his apartment.
Mark , my dear ,please , help me . I have nobody to ask for this favour. I need $1000. I promise I will return you this money when I am in America. I will work and earn them to give you back. You know that I didn't ask you to compensate me my work trip . Do you remember that chat , when we discussed it . You know that I canceled my trip after a chat. But he is my brother and we must to help him.
If you understand me and ready to help , please do it ASAP. Iit is difficult for me to ask you about it. I am very greatful for you understanding and support.
Take care . I think about you and miss you a lot. I am always with you,
Anya!
Kiss you.


Letter from Lady #: 1939
Date: 3 Jul,2007

 

Hello, Mark

Hello my dear!
Mark, I have received your letter, thank you for understanding and your support! Yes, it is really difficult for me to talk about my problems, and to ask somebody for help. I got used to decide everything by myself, and to believe in myself . But from your letters I understood, what I mean for you, and that I can hope on your support. Yes, really, we are one equal in future, and must be open to each other, whatever may happen.
Mark, you even don't imagine how I wish to go, to go to you, to be with you, to be with a man, who loves and respects me.
What about money, your question, you can transfer them through ” Wester-Union”, they will take 30$ for service, and send a code to my mobile phone ( removed)
This week,I finished the registration of testimony, so it is ready and waits for the interview in Kiev. All, that depends on me, I make without delay.
Thank you once more and the best regards from my family.
Good luck, kiss !
Your Anya!

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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2008, 09:52:13 AM »
Sorry to hear about the problems.

Have you taken this up with Kevin the owner of Kherson Girls? If so, what did he have to say about the situation or the money requests? Did he know about these requests at the time?

I don't know him personally but he's been pretty upfront about keeping things on the up and up over the years which gives me the impression that he didn't know about this and is why I asked.

Guess the best news is that you dodged a bullet here.
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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2008, 10:02:26 AM »
Yes, I've been in close contact with him since this happened. He's removed her from the agency but I'm a little annoyed he's waiting to Blacklist her until after the report I sent to USCIS and the American Embassy comes back with their stamp of approval.

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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2008, 10:08:07 AM »
Perhaps you could ask him if he would be willing to come here and explain. He's been a member for some time so he knows where to find us.

As he's in the business I don't find it too strange that he wants to make sure everything is official and at the same time I understand your being upset about his not taking instant action.

Aside from her money requests were there any other red flags that came up? How much face time did you have with her before you proposed and started the K-1?
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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2008, 10:21:43 AM »
He's a good guy, I just think he's being a little too conservative in this matter.

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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2008, 10:59:44 AM »
I googled and found your scam reports all over the net, but nothing reported from anyone before.  I guess you were her first and only 'victim'?

I'm trying to figure out why anyone 'with a plan' would even get on a return flight.. a pro would just turn around at the gate and leave at the next terminal exit while you are standing at the security check.. could pick up the bags a few days later as they wouldn't be loaded on the flight without her.. (maybe that's what she did).

In any case it's probably best for you to worry more about yourself than the rest of the world.. I've seen a man beat a dead horse for years and years, basically driving himself nuts over his soured relationship.

Putting it behind you and moving on is probably the best thing you can do.




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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2008, 11:06:24 AM »
Bravehart,

sorry to hear about it.

it might be informative and a help to others if you
share with us the following info:

1. She was, I guess, 25 years old? What was the age gap?

2. Did you propose to her on the first meeting?

3. What were her English speaking skills?

4. Was she affectionate with you?

5. Did you not know that a good and decent FSUW will never
ask for money?

6. Were you an equal physical match up to her ? Meaning, at 25
I speculate that she was nice looking with a nice figure. Are you
in decent physical shape (not fat) and have most or all of your
hair? And dress well?

Thanks for your reply.

As indicated, your info can help others
avoid your sad result.

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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2008, 11:17:33 AM »
Yes, I believe I was her first victim and hopefully her last.
Once she was caught in her deception I booked her on the next flight back to Ukraine at JFK. I was afraid she might pull a stunt like that and WOW, imagine, she was. She was talking to her friend Ivanna in New York right before she left. I called her back, talked to her, and told her that if Anna didn't get on that plane I would have her arrested by the INS. Immediately after hearing that she asked to talk to Anna to tell her. I believe she had plans to continue her tour of America and a rich man to hook up with but after Ivanna told her what I said I have confirmation she returned to Ukraine.
I've been thinking a lot about the strange motivations of this woman and what I've come to believe is that she used me for money and support, with no intention of marrying me. I believe she wanted to see America, find a rich man (The guy she was consorting with is a doctor from the voice-mail on his cell phone that she had been calling, and I'm just a middle class guy) and then go back after 90 days to start the K1 Visa process again to have the REALLY good American life. But of course this is just speculation on my part but it makes perfect sense from her behavior.

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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2008, 11:26:38 AM »
Hello WmGO,
 To answer your questions...she is 24 with an age gap of 19 years. I met her several times before proposing. Her English skills were not good and not that much better when she arrived here after me paying for 9 months of English lessons. She was never affectionate with me...there was no hand holding, kissing...let alone sex.
I was of the belief that no self-respecting FSU woman would ask for money as she did but I foolishly sent it, and much more, because I believed it would show my honorable intentions to be her lifelong partner.
I may have just turned 44 but I'm in good shape, not fat...but I'm no bodybuilder. She knew that from the beginning and signed the letter of intent to the USCIS to become my wife. I believe I was just a means to an end for her.

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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2008, 11:35:10 AM »
Braveheart,

I hope that you will understand that you will get some blunt comments here. This is not because we are a heartless bunch that likes to make fun of people, but because we actually care and feel.
Having said that, while I can understand you are feeling emotional pain, I really can not believe that you could fall for her schemes in such a way. It is not just the money, everything you tell seems like a parade of red flags waving.
You should not care about what you spend, as you did it in good faith, and that someone abused that should not put you off.
However you should ask yourself how it was possible that you spend thousands of dollars on a woman, and even presented her as your fiancee to the authorities, when there never seemed to be interest from her side. Your own words.
Instead of reporting her taking advantage of you, you should have yourself examined and try to answer the question how you let this happen.
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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2008, 11:39:52 AM »
Bravehart,

Since BC mentioned that you have posted your story
elsewhere on the www, I checked around and found that
you have posted elsewhere that:

1. 20 year age difference (you should have known better).

2. She repeatedly asked for money and you sent it (you should
have known better).

3. She was NEVER affectionate with you, not even kissing or
hand holding : WHAT WERE YOU THINKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*******NO PHYSICAL AFFECTION = NO LOVE!!!!!!!!********

(= no brainer I might add).

4. You proposed on 2nd visit not having spent a considerable amount
of time with her: in the ABSENCE of physical affection!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sorry dude, but you asked for it and you got it. Doesn't justify
her conduct, but, as in most cases of "scam", the Western man
just creates the monster. He creates them and feeds them and
deludes himself.........and then squeals like a pig (sorry for the Deliverance analogy) when the inevitable happens.

I have no sympathy. But your's is a good lesson for others.

***************

I typed the above before seeing your response. My thoughts and opinions remain the same. You played the fool. And you reaped the results. Sorry
to hear it, but Western men have just got to learn to quit being so foolish.



« Last Edit: April 25, 2008, 11:41:43 AM by WmGO »

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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2008, 11:44:41 AM »
yeah, this is definitely money/visa girl. And you felt it and knew it but for some reason kept sending her money..... I am so sorry BraveheartQ. You probably didn't have courage to cut her loose....but then again if she didn't give you any attention then you were doing it for just a 'carrot' in front of your nose...?!?!  :(  :-\
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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2008, 11:48:43 AM »
Shadow, we all make mistakes in life and I'm sure you are no exception. Yes, there were many red flags and I stupidly ignored them. Perhaps I am a hopeless romantic that believed that I had found the woman of my dreams and true happiness awaited.
I don't care about the money, that can be replaced. That is not why I post this. It is to prevent this woman from doing this to another man which she certainly eventually will.
Please examine your own emotional failings before you start to judge others.

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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2008, 11:51:38 AM »
Shadow, we all make mistakes in life and I'm sure you are no exception. Yes, there were many red flags and I stupidly ignored them. Perhaps I am a hopeless romantic that believed that I had found the woman of my dreams and true happiness awaited.
I don't care about the money, that can be replaced. That is not why I post this. It is to prevent this woman from doing this to another man which she certainly eventually will.
Please examine your own emotional failings before you start to judge others.
Braveheart, it just hurts when I know how a RW in love acts and reacts to see that a woman without heart can get money this easily, when I know good women that can not find a man or suffer from bad guys....
I have made my share of mistakes, but was more fortunate.
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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2008, 11:55:27 AM »
Yes AnastassiaAsh.

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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2008, 12:02:15 PM »
BravehartQ,

 Over the years many, many men have showed up on this and other forums talking about scams and scammers and wanting to let the whole world know about this horrible person who did them wrong.

 While what she did was wrong to do it is you who allowed this to happen (and continue to happen) up until you found out about her boyfriend. These actions are not just "hopeless romantic" as they go far beyond that into fantasy and even on to the point of stupidity.

 If the money does not matter then drop this need for vengeance and move on taking this as a hard but deserved lesson. Do your homework. Look inside to see what you were doing and why you were doing it. Learn enough to be able to spot these things in time. Be strong enough to walk away when things don't add up.

What about the answer to this regarding Kevin?
If so, what did he have to say about the situation or the money requests? Did he know about these requests at the time?
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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2008, 12:09:08 PM »
Yes catzenmouse, I was stupid. I should've recognized her as a scammer from the beginning. There is no vengeance in my heart, I am a kind and caring person. Only the belief that baring my soul will help others from sharing my sad fate.

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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2008, 12:16:34 PM »
Yes catzenmouse, I was stupid. I should've recognized her as a scammer from the beginning. There is no vengeance in my heart, I am a kind and caring person. Only the belief that baring my soul will help others from sharing my sad fate.

I'm glad to hear this. And don't feel alone in this as many (maybe most) of us have done stupid things along the way. Yours just happened to be a little more painful than some.

Good things that have come out of this:

 1 - You didn't marry her
 2 - More experience under you belt to help you find true happiness down the road
 3 - You found your way here where jerks like me want to see you find that success
 - You can add things from here on as you come to realize them

There is someone out there who will light up your world as you will do for her. Don't settle for less than that and keep the faith as you have to keep going after that dream to find it.

Best of luck to you going forward
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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2008, 01:17:32 PM »
Mark, it happened. 

You can't change it.

My advice is to post your experience you had with her (which you have) so others will not be tricked the same way.

Then move on.  Stop beating yourself up over this.

Let it go.

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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2008, 01:18:32 PM »
You are very lucky Braveheart and you got off cheap and easy...you could have married her.   :usdeyes:  Put it in the past and look forward.  Don't zend ze $$$$.
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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2008, 01:25:47 PM »
Braveheart,
  I'm not sure Kevin from Kherson girls should react at all to your scammer report. After all, you didn't think she was a scammer the whole time you knew her and I'm sure Kevin gets a lot of disgruntled customers complaining about ladies after a relationship goes bad  when if fact there was no relationship at all! Surely that was the case in your case because she was never attracted to you enough to hold your hand or kiss you. I suspect you knew this was wrong all along but you forced a relationship that should have never been anyway and proposed.

Most hot blooded mammals need physical affection and if she isn't getting it from you, she'll want to get it from someone else. If a RW likes you, you'll know it..... as fast as that guy did at the fitness club with Braveheart's girl.

Anyway, thanks for coming and telling your story Braveheart. Certainly you will help other men think about judging better the ladies they're pursuing.
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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2008, 01:29:03 PM »
in your case because she was never attracted to you enough to hold your hand or kiss you.
Newbies reading this; heed the warning!

When a RW is "into you," you will know it.

Without some level of affection, she is not into you...

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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2008, 03:11:03 PM »
BillyB,

I am hardly a disgruntled customer complaining about a relationship that didn't work out. If she had come here and we weren't compatible I would've been disappointed but put it behind me. But this was a calculated deception. I was led into the perception that this woman wanted to be my wife when she simply wanted me to support her, bring her to America, and find someone else.
This is an embarrassment to me. Do you think I like baring my soul like this to strangers? Does it help my frame of mind to admit the way I was used, financially and emotionally?
There are many scammers posted here and elsewhere. Some just ask for money after a few letters, the men send it, and they are considered oh so bad women. But this woman went the full way...she played it out as long as she could and milked it for everything she could. And she would've done it to an even greater extent if I hadn't caught her in the act.
Post your comments to the foolish guys who send Western Union money to women who write to them on the Internet a few times. Not to me, who was deceived by her intentions to marry and for 9 months financially supported this woman and was led into believeing that my future was with her. She is a scammer of the very worst type...and I pray to God no one reading this post ever encounters one like her.

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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2008, 04:06:11 PM »
There has been much talk on this board about the foolishness of my actions, that I should've seen the signs and known better. I think that's a fair assessment. But this line of conversation actually deflects attention from the real perpetrator of this fraud. So much attention to "you should've done this or you should've realized this". Who amongst you is perfect? Who hasn't made mistakes in judgement? My mistakes were made in the pursuit of love. I am guilty of that but innocent of wrong-doing.
This "I told you so" bantering is akin to an argument of a lawyer defending someone who was robbed walking down a dark street. "You should've know that walking down that street at night was dangerous. You should've realized something bad could happen". But the robber is still guilty and should be recognized so.
But the situation is that I was not only "robbed" of money. I was used in the most despicable way by a woman without morals. To use someone not only for financial gain but to purposefully exploit someone's heart is an act I wish none of you will experience.
Each and every one of you who wishes to post about my admitted stupidity should take a moment to look at yourself in the mirror and take a long, close look into yourself...if you have made mistakes in life, if you have made the wrong decisions at times. The answer will be,yes, you have. And to write message of "great wisdom" about how you would've done things is something you should not do.

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Re: Anna (Hanna) Davydova Scammer From Kherson Ukraine
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2008, 04:11:10 PM »
There has been much talk on this board about the foolishness of my actions, that I should've seen the signs and known better. I think that's a fair assessment. But this line of conversation actually deflects attention from the real perpetrator of this fraud. So much attention to "you should've done this or you should've realized this". Who amongst you is perfect? Who hasn't made mistakes in judgement? My mistakes were made in the pursuit of love. I am guilty of that but innocent of wrong-doing.
This "I told you so" bantering is akin to an argument of a lawyer defending someone who was robbed walking down a dark street. "You should've know that walking down that street at night was dangerous. You should've realized something bad could happen". But the robber is still guilty and should be recognized so.
But the situation is that I was not only "robbed" of money. I was used in the most despicable way by a woman without morals. To use someone not only for financial gain but to purposefully exploit someone's heart is an act I wish none of you will experience.
Each and every one of you who wishes to post about my admitted stupidity should take a moment to look at yourself in the mirror and take a long, close look into yourself...if you have made mistakes in life, if you have made the wrong decisions at times. The answer will be,yes, you have. And to write message of "great wisdom" about how you would've done things is something you should not do.

You might want to give up the whole Russian women idea.  Just a thought from reading your posts.



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