Is This Polish Girl Legit?

[jmana]

I am working on my 2nd try at finding a good wife (the first one was and still is a nightmare), and I've been dipping my feet in the water for a little over a year.  I have 2 for sure real women that I have met through russianeuro, both from Moscow.  The only problem with them is the one is an "artist" and wants to go to art school, so I have a feeling she would be more trouble than she is worth, and the other one is nice, but she doesn't know much English and I find it really hard to get to know people when I have to custom tailor my messages so I don't accidentally offend her with a word she misinterprets.
I have also run across my share of scammers, the last one was funny, she wrote to me for months and I knew it was a scam because she was obviously not reading anything I wrote, but I kept writing figuring I was saving some other poor sap from falling for it.  But then she started writing letters where there was a Russian word in the body of the email, and I looked up the word and it basically translated to "insert first name here"! 
But here is my question, there is a girl from Warsaw that I have not been able to figure out.  She again doesn't answer many of my questions, but it does seem like she at least reads my emails.  But we've only been writing to each other for a few weeks, and she already "loves me" which to me is a red flag, considering she doesn't know anything about me.  Also almost from day one she has been talking about coming here to visit her sister in Arizona and wants me to join her, so again I was expecting the usual request for money.  But it never came.  Then she said she was having trouble with her visa, and again I expected some request, but nothing.  The last email she stated that her sister is going to help pay for her ticket, so maybe she is for real?  I don't know, she is a little too beautiful for my taste anyway, I already had the high maintenance wife thing, and it was a mistake I hope to not repeat

[groovlstk]

I don't know, she is a little too beautiful for my taste anyway, I already had the high maintenance wife thing, and it was a mistake I hope to not repeat

I'll let others give you feedback on the rest of your post, but one thing you need to know is that FSU women give new meaning to the words "high maintenance," if that's what you seek to avoid you're better off staying w/American women.

[Jet]

If I were to speculate based solely on the info provided so far, my guess would be that you're going to recieve a frantic e-mail/SMS/phone call, on the day she is scheduled to travel. It will probably be something along the lines of her showing up at the airport early only to find out that they require her to show proof of funds before they let her board the plane, and if you'd be so kind as to send her $500 +/- she'll gladly return it to you as soon as she lands in AZ. Luckily for her there will be a Western Union right there in the terminal somewhere (perhaps at the currency exchange). She'll never forget you for this you vondaful man, you! 




In other words...
No soup for you...NEXT!  :selfharm:

[UTRO]

If I were to speculate based solely on the info provided so far, my guess would be that you're going to recieve a frantic e-mail/SMS/phone call, on the day she is scheduled to travel. It will probably be something along the lines of her showing up at the airport early only to find out that they require her to show proof of funds before they let her board the plane, and if you'd be so kind as to send her $500 +/- she'll gladly return it to you as soon as she lands in AZ. Luckily for her there will be a Western Union right there in the terminal somewhere (perhaps at the currency exchange). She'll never forget you for this you vondaful man, you! 




In other words...
No soup for you...NEXT!  :selfharm:

    Priceless!! I've never had Luck with the "I Love You" after the first letter types.....  :heartafire: =  :usdeyes: .....  NYET!

[viking]

NO. Simple question, simple answer.

[Andrew]

Ho hum   

[Pike]

The experienced scammers know to never ask an American for money.  They know  we are the most generous people in the world.  They just need to state their problem and wait for the offer of money to come.

Of course our generous nature is known as stupidity to them.

[I/O]

There is a blinding array of choices available, so why chase someone who seems marginal from the get go?  :noidea:

I/O

[Phil dAmore]

Polish girl?   Tell her you like a woman who can cook, and then ask if she knows the recipe for ice cubes.

(Insert screen door on a submarine joke here)

[Jumper]

the polish girl hasnt asked for anything..
and although i expect it will turn into a scam..
you really dont have to worry about it?

she is either legit or not, and time will tell..
why not play it out?

There are about a million polish people in chicago.. many frequently have visiting relatives,,and her case wouldnt be considered even slightly unusual in this city


the weird part is you have decided she is too beautiful, to be sincerely intetrested in you or legit already anyway..
and if she is legit, you dont just suspect, you decide she is high maintenence,,without meeting her or knowing anything about her..?

and yes i agree the 'love' thing so early is a very strong sign she is a scammer.
its just strange you wrote her off because of her looks and location
(just how many scammers are from warsaw?  shes one in a million if true..lol)


while i wouldnt actively pursue her,
i would certainly let it play out, why not? your defenses are so high already it will hinder you finding anyone,,and certainly you wont let yourself be scammed.


you had a beautiful wife that was high maintence and you dont want that again..
(her perspective is likely a bit different)

Anyway they are out there in every country..
but youll need to be a little more open minded and get to know them ,
in my honest opinion..
as when you write off prospects..

The only problem with them is the one is an "artist" and wants to go to art school, so I have a feeling she would be more trouble than she is worth

simply because of thier interests, or choice of school ,or profession,..you are really limiting yourself.

your post comes off-
well this one is too pretty,
 this one is artsy,so too much trouble..


your quest to find a beautiful intelligent woman, that has
no troublesokme "intetrests" isn't "too" pretty,,etc etc may be rough,,??

it seems you are looking for someone with  no baggage in thier interests, likes and dislikes,,   attractice,(but not too much so)  that will be no trouble, and crazy about you..

How much trouble are you?
how much has your ex wife jaded your outlook on relationships?
 

obviously there is more to you than whats conveyed in one post..

but from your post you do realize the (no trouble) woman of your dreams
would read it and quite likely say to herself
"pass ,too much relationship baggage , and trouble from his ex"

you are passing judgement it seems almost as quickly,
 since you have only a few emails to go on and havnt met these women.

that knife cuts both ways


...........just sayin'.......................

 

[Al_C]

This one hit every scam red flag in the book.

Scam probability?  The inverse of my chances of hitting the lotto jackpot.

You can keep playing with her if you want, but if you send her any money, take a black magic marker and write "S" on your forehead.

Wanna have some fun?  When she encounters her "problem" in the airport, tell her that you have an uncle in whatever agency is causing her "problem", so all she needs to do is ask for him and the "problem" will be solved.  Then your problem gets solved, a/k/a she goes away.

[Ronnie]

This is very simple.  Ask her for her sister's phone number.  Tell her you want it so you can coordinate a surprise for her when she comes.  If she gives it to you...you can call and remove any doubts.  If she balks and gets accusatory (what, you don't believe me?).  Then you have your answer.

Beautiful girl from Warsaw?  I think I know her!  I spent three days there and saw just one... it had to be her!

[jmana]

Well, I finally got the letter asking for money, but I still don't know for sure this is a scam, here is the deal:  She has been writing me telling me her sister was going to pay for the ticket, but her sister is out of town with her husband and for whatever reason can't send the money directly to her, but is willing to send me a check then I can Western Union the money to Poland.  At first I figured I'd be getting a bad check, but then I thought I could tell her yes, get the check and go to a check cashing place to cash it because they will first verify if it's any good, I'm willing to pay their service fee if it means knowing the check is good.   Or is this an old scam and I shouldn't even bother with it?

[tim 360]

Let me understand this...slowly:  The girl is in Poland and so is her sister.  Her sister is not able to give this girl the money for some arcane reason.  Maybe the Polish banks are closed for the week?  But,  the girl will send you a check, a Polish check, a very good check, drawn on a Polish bank.  Perfect.  You will then cash the check and WU the girl the $ so she can come to see you.  Please let us know what or who will give you unsecured cash for this Polish check?  Who will verify a Polish check?

I wish you good luck with that Polish check.  This is a con.  It is a scam.  It is a classic and often used con.  You are the sucker.  Thats how it works.  This not believable.   

[groovlstk]

At first I figured I'd be getting a bad check, but then I thought I could tell her yes, get the check and go to a check cashing place to cash it because they will first verify if it's any good, I'm willing to pay their service fee if it means knowing the check is good.   Or is this an old scam and I shouldn't even bother with it?

A check-cashing outfit will laugh at you, and if you bring a bogus check to your bank they won't be able to verify that it's phony for several days, at least. Know that your bank will give you a major hard time about this even if it's not your fault.

You seem foolish enough to hope this girl is for real which puts you in a dangerous position.

[Ronnie]

Well, I finally got the letter asking for money, but I still don't know for sure this is a scam.....

Ah c'mon buddy..live a little...take a chance 

[jmana]

I guess I should have clarified that the sister is here in Arizona (supposedly), but her and her husband are out of town for some business trip.  If I do get a check, I should be able to call the issuing bank to at least see if that amount is in the account.  It's not necessarily that I want this chick to be real, in fact I'd almost rather it be a scam, but if she is real I figure I had better at least give her a chance.  I think what I will do is ask for the sisters phone number, so I can call her and discuss this whole thing.  Here is what she wrote, it's hard to translate what exactly she is talking about, but twice in the letter she mentioned me cashing the check first, before going to Western Union, so maybe she is for real?  Anyway, here is what she wrote, maybe someone here understands her better than I do: 
"she now
on trip with the husband, and she has offered an output, she cannot
send money to me at once, cash on trip are necessary for it. And she
trusts you and has told that she could send you the check, She can ask
the company where she to work to ask what to you sent the check, she
informed that its wages will be fast also she to ask, that the check
with her salary would send you. you will cash it and will send money
to me, she has told that it not difficultly"

[vlxv]

I just the other day read about a similar thing, which occurred in Australia with the check coming from NZ. Someone stole personal information off a computer, checked the bank account for funds, writes a check and sends it to you. You cash it, receive the money, then send it off to the scammer. Then the robbery victim reports the theft to their bank, the bank traces the check to you, and you have to repay the money. You are out the bucks, plus whatever time you have to spend with the police, et al. Sweet, no?

[Jet]

here is the deal:

• I finally got the letter asking for money,
• her sister is out of town with her husband and for whatever reason can't send the money
• I can Western Union the money to Poland
• I figured I'd be getting a bad check

 Or is this an old scam and I shouldn't even bother with it?

Dude, reverse the situation. If you needed a loan from your brother who was out of town, do you REALLY think he'd be more comfortable sending the check to some chick he doesn't know in Poland?
  Stick a fork in it, it's done...and start thinking with your big head

[Ronnie]

  C'mon buddy,  if ya don't try it...y'll never know...   What if she's da' goyle of yer dreams?    If da sista trusts you...maybe you should trust da sista    Wataya waitin' for?

[Jet]

I guess I should have clarified that the sister is here in Arizona (supposedly), but her and her husband are out of town for some business trip. 

Last I checked, one can use WU with a credit or debit card from virtually anywhere that has access to the internet, including most cell phones. Why would sis go through the trouble of mailing a check? Even if she doesn't have internet access on her "business trip" WU offices are surely easier to find than the local post office in a strange town. 

If I do get a check, I should be able to call the issuing bank to at least see if that amount is in the account. 

That does not guarantee the amount will still be in the bank two days in the future when the check clears. 

It's not necessarily that I want this chick to be real, in fact I'd almost rather it be a scam, but if she is real I figure I had better at least give her a chance. 

Who you trying to Boolsheet here, us or yourself? 

I think what I will do is ask for the sisters phone number, so I can call her and discuss this whole thing. 

And this provides verification of what? 

"she nowon trip with the husband, and she has offered an output, Well is good to know that sis is willing to put out 
she cannotsend money to me at once, cash on trip are necessary for it. A great big steaming pile of boolsheet (see above)
And she trusts you and has told that she could send you the check,What could possibly give her the impression you are trustworthy? THINK MAN! 
She can askthe company where she to work to ask what to you sent the check, she
informed that its wages will be fast also she to ask, that the check
with her salary would send you.
Not only a lie, but highly illegal - a legit company would never send an employee's salary to someone else, Think of the tax implications! 
you will cash it and will send money to me, she has told that it not difficultly" For GOd sakes, put the crack pipe down and step away from the keyboard!

[Jet]

    If da sista trusts you...maybe you should trust da sista    Wataya waitin' for?

ROTFLMFAO 

[jmana]

C'mon buddy,  if ya don't try it...y'll never know...   What if she's da' goyle of yer dreams?    If da sista trusts you...maybe you should trust da sista    Wataya waitin' for?

Yeah, that is kinda funny

[viking]

Let me be blunt. How many more people, who have been through this, need to tell you what you already know but refuse to admit. She is a scammer. You are being naive and irrational. END OF STORY

[Ronnie]

  Come ON, Buddy!  Don't listen to dat Jet...he's just J E A L O U S.. yeah, dat's right..J E A L O U S!    No risk...no reward.. You heard dat before haven't ya buddy..?