going back yet again

[KenC]

[user=130]Son of Clyde[/user] wrote:

It's weird some guys don't mind at all if their wives are on the phone a lot.

In a relationship, both parties need to have a life of their own to share with the other.  I realize that when my wife is speaking with her friends and relatives, it makes her happy.  They are not in compitition with me for my wife's attention as I see it.  She also needs to understand that when my children call me, that that too is important.  It falls under "mutual respect" for the other individual.  I don't see it as "weird" at all.

KenC

[Goombah]

So far, the best deal I've found for calling Russia is via the Super Clean calling card:

http://www.uniontelecard.com/ProductDetail.asp?ProductID=1250

$0.0625/minute to Russia
$0.0384/minute to Moscow or St. Petersburg

800 number access, no maintenance, no service fee, 1 minute rounding, refillable (so you don't waste the last 10 minutes on the 'card' for fear of getting cut off).

Kevin

[Bruno]

It's weird some guys don't mind at all if their wives are on the phone a lot.

In a relationship, both parties need to have a life of their own to share with the other.  I realize that when my wife is speaking with her friends and relatives, it makes her happy.  They are not in compitition with me for my wife's attention as I see it.  She also needs to understand that when my children call me, that that too is important.  It falls under "mutual respect" for the other individual.  I don't see it as "weird" at all.

KenC
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I have know phone problem with my ex-wife... she can use cheap satelite system from shop located 100 meter from home ( 0.12 eurocent minute )... but it was to mush ask... she phone from home with mobile to russia... at 2 euro minutes... when i receive a bill at the end of the month who is around 500 euro, 30% of my income... i was really concerned... after three month the same, my only one solution was throw the GSM against a wall...

Same freedom have his limit... so situation have can lead us to big financial problem... and this only because she was too lazy for walk 100 meter or use the special card i have buy ( misterbing or eurocall )...

 

[anono]

goombah, i tried that card and i have yet to make a decent connection with "j" on her cell number. i called customer service, they told me they would fix it, wait two hours. same result.

actually, i have yet to find a decent calling card. i ran up a $3000 cell phone bill over three months because i cannot find a good calling card.

[Goombah]

There is Super Clean and Super Quick - I had problems with the one calling Urkaine, but get very clear connections to Russia with the other (Moscow and Omsk).

YMMV.

Kevin

[anono]

There is Super Clean and Super Quick - I had problems with the one calling Urkaine, but get very clear connections to Russia with the other (Moscow and Omsk)[/font]

dang

[tim 360]

Finally had time to do a little reading here,  other stuff to do.  Anono,  just a great read,  a gem, although I guess some stuff got deleted.  But,  what a very nice try to educate some of the truly dimly-witted.  Kudos.

But,  despite your best efforts there will be plenty of AM guys in Kiev cash in hand.  And with so many nit-wits...what's a girl to do???  It's kinda like prey vs predator and theres plenty of dull,  slow moving prey.  "I need new dress."

It is more than kind of you to try help the foolish and I hope you have good results.  But usually a sucker is always a sucker.  Cheerio, Tim

[info_man]

hi  kevin, yes, i thought that was the case about tourist visas. i keep  hearing something has changed to make it easier but i do not know of  anyone doing it and it being easy. i also think you are right about the  k-1 the second time around. i did a k-1 with dasha and it was easy to  obtain. of course, we dotted all the i's and crossed all the t's,  including the statements that we intend to marry. of course, we did not  follow through and i never brought her to the usa. i did it thinking it  took longer than it did (three months to the day after application it  was granted) and i told dasha we were doing it in case everything  worked out which it did not.

are you the guy with the salt-water aquarium? like HUGE? if so, i think  we talked on the phone. my small village (edwardsville) is just across  the river from you. we need to meet when i get back to the states. i  will be wanting to get some miles on my k1200s when i get back and i'll  be glad to ride over if the weather is nice. mom says it was 90 just a  few days ago.

bruno, yes, "j" wants a child. at first she said four or five years.  magically, that number went to maybe in two years. i asked why she  wanted a child and she looked at me with a slight puzzled look and said  "because i love you".

i realize a lady her age is going to want a child. speaking for myself  i could do without a rugrat at my age but what the hell, i never  thought i would get married either. in fact, marriage only came into  the equation once i learned in order to keep one of these ladies in the  states you have to marry them. DANG! always a hitch.

i have a 15yr old daughter that i have never seen, no thanks to her  mother, a complete beatch. a pathological liar. i stopped legal  proceedings (i wanted half custody or at least visitation rights and  offered child support. my attorney brother told me i was the only man  in madison county who was fighting to see my child. everyone else was  trying to get out of it. (told you i wasn't the average guy, dan).

i have been thinking of living here in ukraine. the situation in the  usa, thanks to the current administration and the increasing  threat of terrorism are just a couple reasons. america is becoming less  and less of the great nation it once was and it is only a matter of  time before some terrorist sets off a nuclear device and then all hell  is going to break out. "if tyranny and oppression come to this land, it  will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy"- james madison. this  is exactly what is going on under "president" bush. it will be war in  the usa. the borders will close and the government will become our  enemy (well, it already is on many levels). they ask the military if  they would fire on civilians if ordered to do so..think they are asking  just for fun?

my first ukrainian girlfriend was 33 and has  a daughter. a good friend told me don't do it. one of the reasons why  is (appropriately) children always come first. i am sure if my  mother had to chose between us kids and my stepdad (father of three of  my siblings, it would be us over him any day. if a child is going to  come before me, i want he or she to be my own child, not that of some  bum in ukraine.

i changed my own little (now 39) sisters  diapers when my mother had her hands full with six other kids, it can't  have changed that much....



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[size="4"]Anono,



Don't mean to get off track, but I am going thru the same thing  pertaining to child custody. I do not want to go into all the details,  but it's costing me everything from my emotional, physical and finacial  stand point. I already decided it doesn't matter what it takes to get  legal and partial physical custody. She has unlimited  money from  her rich family and they are coming after with the big guns. Just the  other day my lawyer caught them trying to fraud the court with bogus  claims and inconsistent testimonies from my ex-wife, so I hope the  judge is willing to review this and see her has the lying psycho bi_ ch  she is. Family Law is a joke and  your constitutional rights don't  mean a damn thing. They can get false restraining orders and you are  guitly until proven innocent. This means out of the house, can't see  your child and all the other crap that goes along with it. If you want  a divorce make sure you you get a restraining order, man was I ignorant  about the law. It's a horrible nightmare that I can't wake up from and  it gets worse. So that is my fight right now and who knows how long  this will go on for, months, years who knows, but no damn way I will  ever stop or quit fighting, the right to be a father to my daughter.

I have read several trip reports and I will have to say this by far is  the most informative report I have read so far. This should be a  required reading for any newbee. I have already decided to even skip  any trip to the Ukraine. Just wanted to thank you for the valuable  information and hope you and J the best.

Sincerely,

Info_Man
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[ronin308]

Infoman, anono has already bailed from this board, actually it's his second time leaving the board because he couldn't handle the heat.

[Photo Guy]

[size="3"][color="navy"]Yeah, I think that feisty lad is no longer here. I think he's busy becoming a Ukrainian and sampling the local...cuisine.[/color][/size][/b]

[planetusa]

Anono, please contact me at pc22@email.com. I am from Chicago and would like to share some thoughts regarding my trip to Ukraine. I am from Chicago. John