My names Alex and I'm quitting AW

[paratrooper]

I'm a 24/m in the army, stationed in Alaska. I have been dating "seriously," AW for the last 6 years and have been interested in RW and foreign women in general for the last two. I am just fed up with AW and especially here in AK it is just pathetic. I'm no brad pitt but I have no problem getting dates. The women I do date, the chemistry just runs out too fast. I decided to join the site for advice from some of the experienced men (and women) here. Some of my basic concerns and questions, seeing how I have absolutely no foreign women experience (except what I have read on here), have to due with the pay sites or whatever you want to call them. Have they worked for anyone because they seem to me like they could be easily a fraud to sucker guys out of their dinero. I mean anastasia web for instance has hundreds of drop dead gorgeous women on there, are they all actually serious about finding a foreign man to start a relationship with? Do they all dream of fabio taking them home to his palace in malibu? I myself am at a point of my life where I want to start something serious. I don't know, I just don't see how RW can leave their lives behind and start new ones, it must be pretty hard on them. I have a hundred questions that have been brewing for sometime now and I really just want to get some answers and meet some new friends. Any advice anyone could give me would be greatfully appreciated. And if you want to know anything more about myself, shoot!

Alex

[Maxx2]

You are a lucky guy for finding a site like this. Listen carefully to the old timers here. To the man they wish you success and will give you solid advice.


Maxx

[2tallbill]

Alex, here is a cliff notes version which you are only getting because you are serving our country.

1. Read the FAQs and the ten commandments they have tons of information. 
2. Anastassia Web = BAD scam agency
3. read until your eyes bleed

Here are a couple of good links that Dan posted on another thread.

www.CertifiedMarriageAgencies.org
www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?action=links
www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?ind=topsite

Here a couple from me
http://www.luckylovers.net/
http://free-dating-agency.com/

But before setting up a profile read and read and read some more.
Then as you get questions come back here and post them.
I think the woman situation in Alaska is different than in the rest of the States however. I remember being there during two summers, even the toothless women had a circle of men around them. Your mileage may vary in other states places. Visit a girl from Southern US before you give up on all of them. 


Udachi good luck,

Bill

[Ronnie]

Alex,

Turn your disadvantage into an advantage.  You live in Alaska where the pickins are slim.  But you're also very close to Vladivostok where there is female bounty.  Hop on a flight and go west young man!

Anybody know of a good agency in Vlad?

[BC]

Alex,

Before you write off AW completely in favor of very slim chances with a RW (well over 99% of Americans do marry other Americans), I would think about your next pcs move.  Don't know what your situation is but could imagine a budding marriage with a RW might be difficult to manage if you suddenly have to disappear somewhere.

Don't hesitate though to travel to FSU as a tourist vs wife seeker, get your feet wet and enjoy the experience.

[KenC]

Alex,
You need not close the door on AW in order to open the door to RW.  One never knows where they will find true love so why limit your chances?  It isn't an "either or" situation.  I am with the guys that are advising you to hit Vladivostok as it appears to be a target rich environment and usually too far for most.  Perfect location for you however.  Best of luck.
KenC

[WmGO]

Alex,
You need not close the door on AW in order to open the door to RW.  One never knows where they will find true love so why limit your chances?  It isn't an "either or" situation. 

Good post/points.

And at only 24 years old - and stationed in the boonies (so to speak), it is way too early in life to be so pessimistic about AW. As a matter of fact, it is the time to be *optimistic* about AW.  Having the ability to marry an AW who has never been married before and little to no baggage and no children by other men represents a GREAT opportunity for the AM.  Jeesh, I could only wish to be so lucky. 

[BC]

Good post/points.

And at only 24 years old - and stationed in the boonies (so to speak), it is way too early in life to be so pessimistic about AW. As a matter of fact, it is the time to be *optimistic* about AW.  Having the ability to marry an AW who has never been married before and little to no baggage and no children by other men represents a GREAT opportunity for the AM.  Jeesh, I could only wish to be so lucky. 

At 24 you are well within prime time for marriage to a woman without too much baggage regardless (they and we all have some baggage).  Your job and location is probably a pretty big factor at the moment..

But remember.. 'this  too shall pass'.  To me it's all about exposure and not explicitly seeking a life partner.  You don't meet women sitting on your couch.

[WmGO]

(they and we all have some baggage). 

Good points BC - *except* the above.
Not everyone has baggage - especially
people in their 20s. Some not even at your age, LOL 

[BC]

Good points BC - *except* the above.
Not everyone has baggage - especially
people in their 20s. Some not even at your age, LOL 

Yeah,WmGO.... At 24 I was indestructible, infallible and *certainly* without any baggage .  At a much later age I learned the Earth does not revolve around me.  Nearing 50 I look back and wonder hoe I somehow managed to survive.

[Bob Smith]

I am with the guys that are advising you to hit Vladivostok as it appears to be a target rich environment and usually too far for most.

Assuming there are flights Vlad seems like a natural choice.  Except for one thing that's kinda bugged me about the place...

Two thirds of Vladivostok's suburbs are so polluted that living in them is classified as a health hazard, according to the local ecological specialists, Ecocenter. Some areas, such as those near the printing works in Pokrovsky Park and the Far Eastern National University campus, are so polluted that they are defined as ecological disaster zones. Only a few areas have permissible levels of contamination. Professor Boris Preobrazhensky, a top ecologist at the Pacific Institute of Geography said that there was nowhere in the area that was really healthy to live in.

The Ecocenter report has taken ten years to compile and is believed to be the most comprehensive of its kind. It was based on analysis of over 30,000 samples of water, snow, soil, air and human tissues taken between 1985 and 1993. Samples showed significant rises over that period in the levels of heavy metals, such as cadmium, zirconium, cobalt, arsenic, and mercury, which severely affect the respiratory and nervous systems.

The pollution has a number of causes, according to Ecocenter geo-chemical expert Sergey Shlykov. Vladivostok has about 80 industrial sites, which may not be many compared to Russia's most industrialized areas, but those around the city are particularly environmentally unfriendly, such as shipbuilding and repairing, power stations, printing, fur farming and mining. In addition, Vladivostok has a particularly vulnerable geography which compounds the effect of the pollution. Winds cannot clear pollution from some of the most densely populated areas around the Pervaya and Vtoraya Rechka as they sit in basins which the winds blow over. In addition, there is little snow in winter and no leaves or grass to catch the dust to make it settle down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladivostok

Heavy metals in a young woman of child bearing age does not bode well for her progeny's SAT scores.  There's no need going through all the time and trouble of finding the perfect woman only to have the short bus showing up at your house everyday.  I haven't researched this topic heavily, and I've certainly never been there.  Maybe others can weigh in on this topic, and give you a better idea of the situation on the ground.  I was reluctant to post this, but I felt I would have been amiss if I didn't give you the heads up.  Do your own research and make your own decision.  People from Vlad are gonna hate me.

[catzenmouse]

Good points BC - *except* the above.
Not everyone has baggage - especially
people in their 20s. Some not even at your age, LOL 

C'mon now, as BC is somewhere in the range of "older than dirt" he must have at least some baggage by now...

While most of the younger ones don't have any significant baggage the mere statement of "I'm quitting AW" leads me to believe that there is either some amount of baggage or some serious confusion going on. Perhaps it could just be frustration speaking as I don't remember even considering anything like that when I was that age.

Ken (who is 3 years older than dirt)

[Blues Fairy]

Heavy metals in a young woman of child bearing age does not bode well for her progeny's SAT scores. 

...if she continues to reside in the contaminated area throughout her pregnancy.  Relocation to cleaner areas dramatically reduces the risks.  Otherwise, we all would be damaged goods. 

[BillyB]

Being in the military, you're probably surrounded by men by a 10 to one ratio. The women there will get spoiled and possibly have an attitude, be ugly and overweight and still be in demand. Not all AW are like that to let themselves go mentally and physically.

[2tallbill]

Being in the military, you're probably surrounded by men by a 10 to one ratio. The women there will get spoiled and possibly have an attitude, be ugly and overweight and still be in demand. Not all AW are like that to let themselves go mentally and physically.

I agree and although I alluded to it in my previous post, I must say that Alaska is by far the worst place in the US to find available women.

I remember spending two summers in Anchorage the garden spot of Alaska (and it's biggest city) when I was in my 20s and not having a single solitary prospect of a date. I was very creative in trying to find women including going by colleges, hospitals, parks, and every other place that I could think of.

I was offered even more money by my Summer Employer to return and I refused because of the lack available women.

Udachi,

Bill

[ScottinCrimea]

I'm a 24/m in the army, stationed in Alaska. I have been dating "seriously," AW for the last 6 years and have been interested in RW and foreign women in general for the last two.

I don't think I've ever met anyone who was dating 'seriously" at 18 years of age.  Maybe if you would explain what you mean by "seriously" i would have a better idea of some things.  Does this mean that you were looking for someone to marry at that age?  Or does "seriously" mean dating which includes sexual relations?

[mark2353]

If believe someone already mentioned the option of BC it is beautiful and great looking ladies(great attitude). I grew up with a few and spend several summers in vancouver bc. You really should take a weekend trip you will not forget that place!  If you read some of the other posting you will discover that a bringing a RW into the country is not a cheap task.  You should look at all your options prior to committing to one!
Also do not be in a hurry into settle down you still need to consider a career and how you are going to take care of this family! I do not think you are Gates son!
Please think with the brain and not the pants section of your body! 
Best of luck!

[Ronnie]

One of the advantages Alex has being in the military is that he can save his money.  Housing and food being provided.  Further, if he does get married, he'll receive an increase in pay which is what was behind that Navy scam we recently saw in Norfolk, VA.  If his new foreign wife speaks English well enough, she will undoubtedly be able to work on the base where he's stationed.

I see a lot of advantages in his situation overall.

Someone once said if Ukraine were 20 miles offshore he'd go in a heartbeat.  Well, Russia is only 58 miles from Alaska!

[KenC]

I don't think I've ever met anyone who was dating 'seriously" at 18 years of age.  Maybe if you would explain what you mean by "seriously" i would have a better idea of some things.  Does this mean that you were looking for someone to marry at that age?  Or does "seriously" mean dating which includes sexual relations?

Come on, Scott,
Cut the kid some slack.  Every 24 year old thinks he is serious and maybe he is.  I was married for 3 years by that age.  Let's guide him to go to Vladovistok and meet some of the sweet young Russian girls.  If he is old enough to protect our country, he is plenty old enough for this.
KenC

[ScottinCrimea]

Hey KenC, cut me some slack, too.  At his age I was already married two years, but at age 18, when he said he began to seriously date, I was still in high school and, even though I may have thought my dating was serious, I certainly wasn't looking for a wife.  Obviously that thinking changed, but not before I had a couple of years of college and two years of a religious mission in a foreign country behind me.

I do agree that if we can spare him the angst of dealing with AW and guide him straight to the promised land at such an early age we have definitely done him a favor.  OTOH, if we introduce him to the joys of RW and his situation and/or finances do not allow him to follow through, we have doomed him to many years of hell.

[Ronnie]

That's right Ken.  Anyone who jumps out of airplanes behind enemy lines is one serious warrior.  HOO-AH!

[Bob Smith]

...if she continues to reside in the contaminated area throughout her pregnancy.  Relocation to cleaner areas dramatically reduces the risks.  Otherwise, we all would be damaged goods. 

Whoa! Okay take it easy.  Judging solely from your avatar no one is calling you damaged goods!  Are you trying to get me killed here!

[KenC]

Hey KenC, cut me some slack, too.

Nope, old married farts get no slack at all.  I think it is in the bylaws here.
 

At his age I was already married two years,

So your example (and mine) prove that a young man of 24 can be serious.

but at age 18, when he said he began to seriously date, I was still in high school and, even though I may have thought my dating was serious, I certainly wasn't looking for a wife

. 
Everyone is different.  I began dating my first wife at 17 and I was as serious as a heart attack!
 

Obviously that thinking changed, but not before I had a couple of years of college and two years of a religious mission in a foreign country behind me.

Don't you think the military has a way of maturing a young man?  Maybe more than a few years of college? 

I do agree that if we can spare him the angst of dealing with AW and guide him straight to the promised land at such an early age we have definitely done him a favor.  OTOH, if we introduce him to the joys of RW and his situation and/or finances do not allow him to follow through, we have doomed him to many years of hell.

  I don't see how exposing Alex to his options with RW could be a bad thing.  Airfare from Alaska to Vladovistok can't be all that expensive.
KenC

[ScottinCrimea]

  I don't see how exposing Alex to his options with RW could be a bad thing.  Airfare from Alaska to Vladovistok can't be all that expensive.
KenC

If he hasn't the means to follow through, it's the equivalent of taking someone for a test drive in a Porsche who only earns minimum wage. 

[Ronnie]

He'll manage financially.  His pay may not be all that great (though a lot better than it was 40 years ago) but his obligations are minimal.  It's his "disposable" income that matters.