I;m trying to find some information about a young ukrainian woman

[frenchy2008]

Hi everybody! I'm new on this forum and I'm trying to find some information about a young ukrainian woman with who I corresponded for a long time. I'd like to know how I could find the cell phone number of this woman. I have her name, her home adress and home phone number but she has been away for a while and I can't reach her at home... I heard most of the young people in Ukraine have a cell phone over there like in the USA and Western Europe. Is there a way to find this information without using a detective agency? If not do you know a reliable and inexpensive agency that can provide this type of information to me?

Thanks!

Frenchy

[BillyB]

Hi everybody! I'm new on this forum and I'm trying to find some information about a young ukrainian woman with who I corresponded for a long time. I'd like to know how I could find the cell phone number of this woman. I have her name, her home adress and home phone number but she has been away for a while and I can't reach her at home... I heard most of the young people in Ukraine have a cell phone over there like in the USA and Western Europe. Is there a way to find this information without using a detective agency? If not do you know a reliable and inexpensive agency that can provide this type of information to me?

Thanks!

Frenchy

Is anybody else living with her that will pick up the phone and answer?  Maybe you corresponded with her too long and she found someone else or tired of endless correspondence and ignoring you. You do not have a relationship until you meet. It's possible she's in the hospital and unavailable to talk to but rest assured, there should be family and friends there to take care of her.

There have been men like you who've come to the forums saying they can't contact their lady for weeks and come to find out, she went on vacation without saying a word. Hopefully your's is not that rude. If she is, move on and look for another.

[ScottinCrimea]

They don't typically have cell phone contracts like we do in the US.  They simply buy a SIM card from one of the mobile phone companies and insert it in their phone.  It's this card that determines the phone number and it won't be listed anywhere.

If she knows you are trying to contact her and is making no effort to respond, it's time to move on.  She has either lost interest or, more likely, found a better prospect.  Even in the best case, it demonstrates a rudeness that I don't think anyone should tolerate in a prospective wife.

[Gator]

If she knows you are trying to contact her and is making no effort to respond, it's time to move on.  She has either lost interest or, more likely, found a better prospect.  Even in the best case, it demonstrates a rudeness that I don't think anyone should tolerate in a prospective wife.

True!

Sorry Frenchy but you are not important to this woman.  A UW interested in you would make sure that you stay in contact regardless of where she went.

Now that you have had a taste, why not pursue other UW?!

[frenchy2008]

Hi everybody!

Thanks for all your replies and advices! You have to understand that I correspond with her since 2004, I know it's a long time!... Actually, I was planning to meet with her two years ago but my father got a bone marrow disease in France and I had to go back home each time I had some vacations to spend them with my family... Everything went wrong with my plans to travel to Ukraine to meet with her but she knows very well about my situation. She wrote to me every week and send me very long and interesting letters so I'm very confused about my correspondence with her!... I tried to call her home many times since january but she's not there. This week, I contacted somebody from the website "russianscamcheck.org" and they will do a basic scam investigation to her Parents adress, hopefully they can find more information when they talk to her mother. If she's coming back from Russia or not, if she's has a boyfriend or husband... We'll see but I'd really like to find out the truth. I pasted underneath the last letter I received from her in late december.

Have a nice day!

Frenchy





Hello Serge!
Thank you for your letter. You are right and your mother is unique. I am
 glad you had a
chance to talk with your father, and I guess it was an important talk
 for both of you.
Of course your father understands that you do not have a chance to be
 with him now, that
you have your own life, and it is very important for you. Of course he
 wants you to be
happy and his problems are just his ones. You can do anything for
 changing something in
his life. As for your mother you are right and she never will be able
 to value your help
and attention. You have your life and you should be busy with it now.
 You can not live
for all your life and wait for something to happen. Of course you still
 wait for the
sentence as fort he event with the car, is there anything new as for
 it?
Serge, the cd is great! I like the music so much, there are some
 melodies which I
know and like. I study French, but I am not sure that I am able to
 write you something
soon. I have my exams now and after it we have New Year, Christmas, and
 everything will
take me very busy. Moreover my fiends have their wedding this Saturday,
 and the next
Saturday the other friends will have their wedding. I am just thrown
 for pieces (smile).
It is great time of course and I am very glad for my friends to get
 married, I really
hope they have their happy life together. It is silly to have the
 brains and did not
have a chance to use them, to make your life unhappy and unpleasant. It
 depends on both.
We have our cold weather; we do not have snow but frost and wind, it is
 impossible to
go out. I do not like the weather like this. I know that in USA, there
 are the frozen
roads (at least in some states), and they have the crashes. Everyday in
 my life now
passes like I did not have it at all. If in the evening I try to
 remember what I was
busy with during the day, I have a lot of different events but they fly
 like in some
cinema.
Tomorrow I am going to the beauty saloon in the morning and after it to
 the bride, and
so on and so forth. On Sunday we will congratulate the couple again,
 after it they leave
and I have my week for being busy with the preparations to one more
 wedding. And when it
gets to the end, I have the other week for being ready to the New
 Year… as you see I
have fun all the time.
Serge, I have my small piece of news, the thing is that I may have to
 leave Izmail for
several months to St. Petersburg for having practice there for my new
 job. I was offered
a job the main office of which is situated in Odessa, and I guess I
 have a chance to
move to Odessa and have my job there!!
Serge, let me once more to wish you luck.
I have my wonderful mood and I would like once more to share it with
 you.
Olga.

[viking]

Frenchy

Am I correct that you have never met this woman? In 3 years you could not find a few days to meet this woman?  With all due respect to your fathers illness, surely you could find a few days? From France to Russia is a piece of cake travel wise. Something is not right here. Even she mentions that you need to have your own life and if this life does not include her, I can't blame her for moving on. Ever see the movie "Moonstruck"? She went to Saint Pete for a new job, and may now be in Odessa. She is doing what she's gotta do. And if she has a boy friend? So what. You are not her fiancee. She has no loyalty to you at this point. You are only a pen pal or a voice on the phone. If I were in your shoes I would chill out on this obsession of trying to find out where she is, move on, and if she ever contacts you again, you can just ask her what happened.

[TwoBitBandit]

You have to understand that I correspond with her since 2004, I know it's a long time!...

Dude, you're a keyboard romeo.

[frenchy2008]

Thanks for your new replies! If I would have been in France, I would have been to Ukraine a long time ago but I live in the USA for 10 years and I can't even go home to France as often as I would like to... Vacation time is very short in the USA! I paste underneath previous letters she sent me in late 2007, please tell me what you think about it :


Hello Serge, you must not to worry because of my letters but to think
 that everything you
have is great. You have not a very great mother but it does not mean
 that you have a bad
family. You are one and it is better for that situation you are now. Now
you are to decide all your problems yourself when you do not have
 anybody to take care of.
That is why there are some positive moments which you are to use.
 Please, think positively.
I really get a lot of letters from men. But I have no time to answer
 them. Besides, I do
not plan to get married in the nearest year or two. That is why I am
 not interested in
those men. Our relations are special. I have No romantic correspondence
 with other men that
is why you are not to be jealous. You know that I am very busy now; I
 work and study a lot.
I have no time to translate letters of any men. I can give time to your
 letters because
they are yours. You are the best men from those who write to me
 (smile). I am sure that you
get a lot of letters and I am sure that you write only to me.
Serge, it does not matter where Canada is from Ukraine or France. The
 most important is
that your life will be more stable. Then you will have a vacation and
 can go to any part of
the world and meet any woman there you wish. You also will be able to
 come to Ukraine and
meet me. The most important for you is o take your life out from the
 dark side and see the
light, happiness, health in your life at least. These are that you do
 not have now.  You
 really have a great
sense of humor but you stopped to think about yourself. You have a good
 appearance and I am
sure that you are liked by women. I can not say that I love you as a
 man because it would
be silly. We have never met each other. I feel great respect to you
 because you came into
my life long ago, became my friend and it is very important for me to
 get your letters. It
is very important for me to help you to life in these hard times for
 you. I want you to
write me some day that everything is all right with you. I would be
 very glad to this. I
want you to come to Ukraine when everything will be all right in your
 life. I am a common woman with
 positives and negatives.
You may be very disappointed when we meet and see not a woman you dream
 about. I understand
that you want to take care of your mother. But I do not think she will
 let you do this even
something happens to your father. There are really men in Ukraine who like me and with whom I go to club
 sometimes. But I
have already written that I am not going to get married in the nearest
 time. Besides, there
are no men I kike among them.
Serge, I can tell that I do not have anybody in my life I love now. But
 if I have some
person I will write you. I will never use you and make pains to you.
  That is why I write
to you what I really feel. I want you to understand that I can not love
 person I have never
seen. But you are to know that when we meet there is no 100% guarantee
 that we will have
love. But you will be always a special person for me, like a friend and
 unique person. I
have never had a person so close morally to me. Today I feel great
 friendly feeling to you.
I can not say that it is love which can appear between man and woman. I
 know that you are
very sensitive person and I would not like to destroy your life and
 health. I want you to
change your interest to your own life, that you to love yourself and
 make your life happy.
We live that life we make for ourselves. You feel your life so as you
 think. You need to
change the way of thinking.
Serge, please, take care of you. I am sure that you will be very tender
 and responsible
husband. I want you to be healthy. Please, drink tea
 and have a
treatment. Serge, I wish you happiness.
Olga.

[ScottinCrimea]

Here's my two cents' worth based on the limited information we have:

It appears that you write to complain about your lot in life and your lack of control over the events in your life.  She writes back to comfort you as a mother would a child.  I think she has no romantic interest in you because she doesn't perceive you as a strong man.  She is gently urging you to take back control of your life.  The fact that you haven't made a trip to see her in over three years of correspondence pretty much confirms everything she feels.

Even though she writes that she has no interest in marrying right away, she is seeing other men, and when someone special comes along, that interest can change very quickly.

My gut impression is that she has met someone else and she doesn't want to write you about this because she doesn't want to shatter your fragile self image and have to deal with the amount of writing that it would require to be sure you are okay.  Besides, she would have a hard time justifyuing to her new interest the time she would spend writing you.

I think your long delay in meeting her has cost you a good woman.  My advice would be to let her go, get your life in order and then start searching again.  Even if you were to find her, you're not going to change her mind at this point.  She just doesn't see you as husband material.

[BillyB]

Frenchy,

You're not aggressive enough to pursue any woman and unless you change, you're going to be single for a long time and life will pass you by. You've wasted nearly 4 years of your life on this dead end.

Those letters were most likely written by a scammer. They're long and cut and paste sentences. Names and photos change but cut and paste letters don't. Advance search Google the sentences in the letter that seem unique and you might find the exact same scammer letter written to another guy on the anti scam sites. In those letters She/He doesn't ask you any questions so you must not be that important after all. Move on, figure out what you want, then grow some balls and go and get it.

[frenchy2008]

Hi everybody!

Thanks for your replies! I know my personal life has been quite a mess with last few years. I had to deal with my father being very sick, my mother who is losing her mind and blames me for this... I could write a book about my life... But I have a hard time to understand this... Would you write every week long letters to somebody you don't care about?... Each time, I wrote a letter to her, two days later I got her response... I corresponded with a few women from Ukraine and Russia before but I never had that kind of open and very honest communication with any of these women. I even stopped my other correspondence when I started to know her better, she was so different and her letters made a lot of sense to me. She knows I'm trying to change my life for better but it's not easy because I don't get any comfort and understanding from my family. I'm not interested to start again communicating with another woman from these countries. I want to find out what is going on and if I still have a chance with her or not...

Thanks again and have a good day!

Frenchy

[Mir]

Great that you have a nice friend, what I can't understand is why you have to search for her mobile phone number?
I mean why has she not given you the number (as she feels so close to you)?
Very strange indeed!

[frenchy2008]

I never asked for her cell phone number because I always called her at her home phone number as she was home most of the time.

[Zmejka]

She could change her home number...
Anyway everybody is right - you should move on, 3 years is a long time for anyone to wait, seems like you didn't promise her to come, so i see no sence in spending money for the investigation. Try to write her a letter to her post address. May be one day you'll hear from her. But what for are you trying to get her back? Do you still believe in the progress in your relationships? If no then is it your habit - to get long letters from her? Do you consider her your friend? I think she was your pen pale, now she moved on or got bored writing to you, even real friends can get distant with time, what to say about people who never actually had friendship.
Good luck!

[GreginGa]

I think some of you guys are being a little hard on this ole boy. I think we've all had friends that we havent spoken to in a while and would just like to see how they are doing. I think he probably realizes he dropped the ball on this girl. I think he just wants to call and say hello and how's your life? What city is she from Frenchy? What is her full name? What other info do you have on this girl? And for the most important question, if you do find out what you need to know, what are your plans?Are you trying to rekindle a relationship that never existed in the first place? Can you be on a plane to Ukraine in the next month? Can you afford this very expensive process from beginning to end? If you cant then you dont need to lead this girl on if you do find out her information. I've seen idiots come here and talk about writing to girls for a year before they never get on a plane and then wonder what happened to their sweetheart.

[frenchy2008]

Thanks for all your replies! I think I have to give you a more detailed reason why I couldn't go to meet with her. First of all, I don't think she was a scammer, I know very well the tricks not only from russian but also from american  and african scammers (smile). I saw her video on her profile before and there was nothing I would 'twisted" in her letters. She never asked me to send her money, gifts, visa. She only asked me to send her some photos. She asked me many questions before and may be shouldn't have been honest with my answers... I started to correspond with her after I had been through a bad experience with another ukrainian woman I met in Paris during some summer vacations. Not only that girl was a whore but she was also a very manipulative bitch! I got many problems with her and I got really disgusted in the end. I was going to remove my profile on the website Globaladies till the day she wrote to me. I liked what she wrote in her profile and she looked like a nice and respectable young woman on her photos. She felt that I had a lot of resentment about ukrainian women in my first letters because of what happened previously but she kept writing to me and we talked about so many various subjets together even very personal matters. My sense of humour came back and we joked a lot together, it felt really good to get back in a better mood. She told me many times that she wanted to meet with me and I always told her that I would as soon as I can get some time off and go to Europe. I didn't know at that time that things would keep getting worse in my life... I started to get some harassment by my crazy female boss at work at the same time my father felt sick in France. I got laid off and lost my job because of this situation... Then I had to fly back home to France and stayed home for a while to help my mother to take care of my father and do a lot of things in the house for them. I spent long and depressing days in hospitals, not knowing what was wrong with my father's health, I saw his physical appearance starting to deteriorate and that was tough on me!... The doctors couldn't even figure out what he had and after so many medical exams, the found out that he had two diseases at the same time "Sweet syndrome" and "Myelodyesplasia", I never heard about these before...  When I was there I also had to hear endless complains from my mother, she blames me that my father is sick because I left France to live in the USA... Very hard to deal with that kind of extra tension! I came back to the USA a few months later but it was very difficult to find a job because I had to explain the reason why I didn't work for a few months, the "ASSHOLES" of employers in the USA are not very considerate and understanding about people's personal problems... They care more about money than anything else! I couldn't find anything for a long timeand then I had to go back to France again because my father was feeling very sick and I spent more time there doing the same routine... We never stopped writing to each other during all that time but how was I supposed to make plans to meet with her with all the things going on in my life???... After I came back here in the USA again and tried to clear my mind and work harder with my job research. I found  a job in early 2008 and that helped me to put aside the thoughts for a while. I know I still have the worst to expect with my father's health in a very near future... I'm closed to my father but I don't have any feelings for my mother, she's a mean and a foul human being. I talked to Olga about all this and she told me that she wouldn't want to have any kind of relationship/communication with my mother even if she would move to live in France with me. I don't think I was weak to deal with all these issues in my life and I had to be strong, believe me! Nevertheless, a lot of hate and resentment have built up in me these last few years. I was planning to work for a few more months here in the USA to recover my financial status and go back home afterwards. I thought I would have more opportunities and time to meet with her when I would be in France despite some of the family problems I would have to deal with over there... She wrote to me that she wasn't thinking about having any serious relationship now because she wanted to concentrate on her job training and exams in Kiev this june. Of course! I know she doesn't live like a nun and meet with other men every day in her life, men who have a more stable and joyful life... Unfortunately, there are things I can change in my life but some I can't!... I thought a lot about her trip to Russia, she told me that she could go there for a considerable time (how long is a considerable time!?...) but she thought she would be back home probably by the end of march, it's the end of may now!... I sent her many letters by regular mail but as it seems she's not home after all the phone calls I made to her Parents... I don't know how I'm going to do to forget about her after all these years... I don't think I want to do the same thing with any other woman now whoever she may be ukrainian, american or else. I wish we would have kept in touch together even if it was just friendship... I think we could have been really more than friends if that fucking "fate" hadn't keep screwing up with my life!... Well, this is my story guys, pretty messed up, right!? Do you understand now why I couldn't go to meet with her?...

Have  a nice week-end!

Frenchy